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30 years ago, the preseason game that ruined an entire aeason

CB Shaun Wade?

Michel traded to the Rams!

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Sony is gone for two late-round conditional draft picks.

Mac Jones Is Our QB1

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This may be a little premature but it's PFF's call not mine.

Those of us who beat the drums for Mac Jones pre-draft are to be congratulated for seeing through the arguments against him. The talent and coaching at Bama made it tough but Mac made the throws on his own. I'm pretty sure we got this right and today PFF is in full agreement.

Man, that didn't take long!

I'm loving that both Cam and Mac are playing as well as could have been imagined and are also competing/playing so well together. How does BB keep either QB out of games the way they are playing?
by Sam Monson of PFF (yeah, the same guy who claimed TFB was done back in 2014 or whenever it was)

"Much of the pre-draft scouting process was focused on what Jones couldn’t do. Very little time was spent analyzing what he actually excelled at, which is a shame because his final campaign at Alabama last year was one of the finest college seasons ever seen....

Preseason Game 2 - Pats vs Eagles Aug. 19, Thurs. 7:30PM

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This may be the game that allows BB to decide on the starting QB. The Eagles D is good. This should be a good test for our offense.



PHILADELPHIA — Mac Jones will be the Patriots’ starting quarterback in 2022.

This week should determine whether Jones can become the...

Do we already have a QB controversy on our hands?

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Mac is Cam spelled backwards. Pretty fitting for the QB controversy that is brewing in Beantown.

Mac Jones received a standing ovation on Thursday night, an ovation most thought would be reserved for Patriots former legendary QB, Tom Brady when he comes back to Foxboro on October 3 as a Tampa Bay Buc and defending champion. But no, this ovation was for a QB from Alabama who had never played a down in the NFL and it was the first preseason game in a 3-0 game!

Why such a rukus you ask?

Look no further than a Patriots fanbase clamoring for greatness again from a QB who looks eerily familiar to the former Pats QB who helped deliver six championships over the past two decades. He wears #10 (not #12) but don't let that fool you. He walked into the huddle like he was #12, in compete command, with veteran-like composure. He stepped to the line with an ease in his walk, called out the defense, barked at his receivers, took the snap and delivered precision passes to receivers most fans...

Peyton, Brady, Mac and Greatness

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The debate raged for years during the most bitter and beautiful rivalry I've seen in professional football, who was better Manning or Brady. The focus was mainly on the players to a good degree as it should be but there many other factors that play into this debate

I have heard many wonder if Peyton would have been considered far greater than Tom had he had a great defense.

I think not.

From seeing it up close and personal for over 20 years I think it is the fundamental difference is in organizational philosophy, not just the defense.

The team of Kraft and Hoodie are second to none in NFL history. This organization just bleeds and breeds success flowing from its fundamental principles.

Bill, I assert afforded Brady the environment, coaches, and direction to develop and he handled him to perfection, it's what he does, gets the most out of all his players.

That takes nothing away from Tom cuz it was on him to develop in that situation. It was his heart, fire, and driven...

Upgrades to Gillette this year.

Pregame thread - Patriots vs Washington (Preseason game 1) Thursday, 8/12/21, 7:30pm

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I know it's a bit early for a game Thread, but I'm more excited for preseason this year than ever. And I saw Rivera said he is playing the starters.


Bobby Bowden passes away at 91 years old.

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I only make this thread because of the memories I have because of this man. Yes he was the coach of the college that I loved. And most times celebrity deaths don't move the needle for me. This one hits different due to the fact that my Dad loved this man. And I can't remember Bobby without remember my dad and tons of Saturdays sitting with him watching the Noles play. RIP Bobby Bowden.

OrangeMane has ceased operations

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I thought this was worthy of its own thread as many of us over the years used to visit the Mane because the Bronco posters there were so off the wall crazy. It was a pretty rowdy place back when they signed Manning and Brady and Manning were facing off every year and in the playoffs. The creator (Taco John) has closed the site apparently due to the political stuff being too tough to moderate. His farewell is below. This is unfortunate as many of the posters there just posted about the Broncos and never visited the political side but he just could not manage it anymore. Probably a good reminder to us to try to keep the political side sane so UT does not burn out and shut us down.

The Orange Mane has suspended operations.

Hey all -

What a ride this has been. I always wondered, back in the early days whether this would make it to 2021, twenty years after I started this. This year was always the year that was in my head given...

Crypto currency

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There has been a thread about this in the political forum, but it's not necessarily a political topic. It was suggested to have a more general thread to discuss it.

It's a topic that is gaining more and more interest so it would be good to have at least a thread for it. Hell, if there is enough, we could have a subforum.

As with any topic, posters have varying levels of experience, so I for one am looking forward to learning more and fooling around with it with money I can afford to lose.

Standard disclaimers apply here. Everything posted here is opinion only, and not to be taken as financial advice, investment advice, or legal advice. If you invest based on anything you read in this thread or on the whole board for that matter, you accept that all the risk is yours and yours alone.

So... Do you invest in crypto? And if so, what do you like?

It's Better to Be Feared: The New England Patriots Dynasty and the Pursuit of Greatness

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Over two unbelievable decades, the New England Patriots were not only the NFL’s most dominant team, but also—and by far—the most secretive. How did they achieve and sustain greatness—and what were the costs?
In It's Better to Be Feared, Seth Wickersham, one of the country’s finest long form and investigative sportswriters, tells the full, behind-the-scenes story of the Patriots, capturing the brilliance, ambition, and vanity that powered and ultimately unraveled them. Based on hundreds of interviews conducted since 2001, Wickersham’s chronicle is packed with revelations, taking us deep into Bill Belichick’s tactical ingenuity and Tom Brady’s unique mentality while also reporting on their divergent paths in 2020, including Brady’s run to the Super Bowl with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Raucous, unvarnished, and definitive...

Publishing date is Oct. 12. I'd rather get it first hand than read media takes so I've ordered it and I'll give a report....

Belichicodered Press Conference: 2021 OTA edition

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It's been a while since I did one of these things. The Belichicoder, (for those unfamiliar) is a patented device which can interpret the words of Bill Belichick as if he were really speaking the truth, needed a critical part replaced and due to Covid complications the factory just gave me excuses until, finally, those dried up too and I got the BC like running like a swiss watch again. So, here we go......

Patriots Head Coach Bill Belichick

Press Conference
June 10, 2021

BB: I think that since we last saw each other we’ve seen a lot of changes. Tom won another Super Bowl, we no longer have to wear masks and I basically killed Free Agency and the Draft. I’m sure we’ll get into all of those things in more depth as the season approaches, but for now think we’ll just go over the usual clichés in a random fashion to help warm you people up for the season.

So, ummm....uhhhh, (snort) here goes: grinding, learning, improving one day at a time, moving forward, situational...

2021 draft. Round 7 pick 242 Patriots select WR Tre Nixon

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Not much on Nixon.

SUMMARY: Tre Nixon had a productive prep career at Viera High School (50 miles outside of Orlando) and set school records for receiving yards (1,243) and touchdown catches (18) as a senior. A four-star recruit, he signed with Ole Miss (over Alabama and Georgia) and spent two years in Oxford before transferring closer to home at UCF. Nixon started 27 consecutive games before a broken left collarbone in the 2020 season opener sidelined him for six games, disrupting his senior season. Nixon is a savvy pass-catcher who works towards the void and wins with body position in coverage. Though he is a smooth strider, he doesn’t play loose, and his game lacks explosive elements. He can climb the ladder and secure throws away from his body, but 13 drops over the last three seasons is a concerning number. Overall, Nixon’s speed is more build-up than instant, but he tempos his routes and attacks the catch point with attitude, which could earn him an NFL roster spot.

2021 draft. Round 6 pick 188 Patriots select S Joshuah Bledsoe

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STRENGTHS: Muscular frame with solid thickness…patient at the top of routes with the smooth movement skills to react with receivers…hits another gear when he drives on throws…plays with timing, regardless of whether he locates the football or not…doesn’t panic and clobber receivers with his back to the line of scrimmage…competes with an aggressive mindset, flying downhill as a run defender…communicates well pre-snap, getting teammates lined up…likes to mix things up with receivers…durable and started every game the last two seasons, playing nickel and safety.

WEAKNESSES: Wide, choppy pedal and will get turned the wrong way…when he false-steps, it can often be a death sentence…combinations will catch him offbalance in zone…reacts quickly, but doesn’t consistently anticipate the route path…will arrive too hot as a downhill run defender and make tackle attempts more difficult than they need to be…streaky pursuit angles…physical striker, but needs to be more fundamentally...

2021 Draft round 4, Patriots select Rhamondre Stevenson # 120

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Stevenson is here!

2021 Draft: Patriots 3rd round pick Ronnie Perkins Pick 96

2021 Draft: Round 2 Patriots Select Barmore with the 38th Pick!

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Another 'Bama player.

2021 draft. Round 1 pick 15 Patriots select QB Mac Jones!