Tom Brady/Tampa Off-season thread

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I appreciate your thought that this thread is here to stop Bucs/Brady celebrations in other threads, and maybe it has helped to some degree, yet I still see post after post from a few people that are predictably anti-Pats/anti-BB and pro-Brady/Bucs on other threads. It could work better.

Brady can barely bring himself to talk about "the other team I was with". I'm skeptical that 'always a Patriot' fits very well in his mind. He's gone off to bigger and better things and from all accounts he's loving life as a Buccaneer player and GM. He's moved on. I have, too. I don't need or want to be reminded every single day what a mistake it was for BB to let him leave when, from what I saw and read, it was obvious that TB12 wanted to leave. The idea of praising all things Brady/Bucs on a Patriots forum doesn't sit well with me, especially when the praisers are also the ones most critical of all things Patriots and the GOAT coach.

Just my .02

BTW, I only read this thread when someone other than Mazz or middy have a post.
The sentiments I just quoted from PF09 and KOK are bothersome to me just as they are to them.
My guess is that many people here find it bothersome and unnecessary.
It is a football forum Chevss. People get to express their feelings whether you like it or not. You have described yourself as a "patriots fanboy" on several occasions which I am sure does not sit well with some posters here but again, it is a forum and feelings and thoughts are allowed to be expressed. There are folks here besides myself and ISP50 that enjoy talking and discussing Brady/Bucs. There will always be some bleed over into other threads because Brady was our QB for the last 20 years and the GOAT so the comparisons are natural but they will eventually fade over time as Bill does the rebuild and we get our next QB. The easiest solution is just to skip the thread. And if ISP50 and myself bother you so much in general with any of our posts than just put us on ignore.
 
It's naturally expected that Mazz and Middy are the ones defending this thread.

I respectfully ask you to read pages 45, 46 and 47 of the Rebuilding thread to get a better understanding of this situation and others feel about it.

Tell you what, Middy and Mazz, I'll stay out of this forum if you will stop trolling me about how great Brady was and how awful a job BB has done and is doing.
 
It is a football forum Chevss. People get to express their feelings whether you like it or not. You have described yourself as a "patriots fanboy" on several occasions which I am sure does not sit well with some posters here but again, it is a forum and feelings and thoughts are allowed to be expressed. There are folks here besides myself and ISP50 that enjoy talking and discussing Brady/Bucs. There will always be some bleed over into other threads because Brady was our QB for the last 20 years and the GOAT so the comparisons are natural but they will eventually fade over time as Bill does the rebuild and we get our next QB. The easiest solution is just to skip the thread. And if ISP50 and myself bother you so much in general with any of our posts than just put us on ignore.

No, it’s really just you and Middie, two people who have clearly put Brady above the Patriots.


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It's naturally expected that Mazz and Middy are the ones defending this thread.

I respectfully ask you to read pages 45, 46 and 47 of the Rebuilding thread to get a better understanding of this situation and others feel about it.

Tell you what, Middy and Mazz, I'll stay out of this forum if you will stop trolling me about how great Brady was and how awful a job BB has done and is doing.
Chevss, other people have posted in this thread and others read it. There is quite a following for Brady among Pats fans. I know you don't care about him anymore and that's fine so this thread is not for you.

Your last request is ridiculous. ISP50 and myself and anyone else for that matter are allowed to criticize the team/Bill when warranted and we are allowed to talk about the GOAT as well. That being said, I have made a concerted effort not to mention Brady on other threads unless warranted like it was when we were discussing FAs coming to the Pats. That will happen from time to time because again he was our QB for 20 years and is the GOAT. I was the one that created this thread specifically to help steer convos about Brady/Bucs away from other threads. For you to then say I or anyone can't talk about Brady or post anything that is critical of Bill is asinine. Again, it's a forum. We are all allowed to post our thoughts and our feelings. Again, you can use the ignore the feature. I know many do up here and they find it makes the forum very enjoyable.
 
It is a football forum Chevss. People get to express their feelings whether you like it or not. You have described yourself as a "patriots fanboy" on several occasions which I am sure does not sit well with some posters here but again, it is a forum and feelings and thoughts are allowed to be expressed. There are folks here besides myself and ISP50 that enjoy talking and discussing Brady/Bucs. There will always be some bleed over into other threads because Brady was our QB for the last 20 years and the GOAT so the comparisons are natural but they will eventually fade over time as Bill does the rebuild and we get our next QB. The easiest solution is just to skip the thread. And if ISP50 and myself bother you so much in general with any of our posts than just put us on ignore.

Well, look at you giving a lecture.
It is a football forum but I should point out to you it's a Patriots football forum named Patriots Planet.
It's for entertainment and fun.
I think you and Middy are forgetting that people come here for enjoyment.
None of the other Brady supporters beat the rest of us over the head with it.
Most of us don't appreciate being bashed over the head with the incessant trolling of the greatness of Brady and the negativity toward BB and the Pats.


Ignore it is
 
Well, look at you giving a lecture.
It is a football forum but I should point out to you it's a Patriots football forum named Patriots Planet.
It's for entertainment and fun.
I think you and Middy are forgetting that people come here for enjoyment.
None of the other Brady supporters beat the rest of us over the head with it.
Most of us don't appreciate being bashed over the head with the incessant trolling of the greatness of Brady and the negativity toward BB and the Pats.


Ignore it is
Maybe just take a deep breath. There has been plenty of negativity and criticism here over the past 12 months from many, many posters and it has been warranted given the state of the team combined with Brady's success. The forum is not just for fun and entertainment, it is for discussion of the team - the good and the bad. I know that is difficult for you given how much you LOVE the team and Bill. I think you are a very valuable poster here and the info you post as well as your sources. I truly do look forward to your posts and your rose colored glasses don't bother me in the least. Try not to be so thin skinned when folks have a different point of view. It's just football after all.
 
I’d like to point out that it’s possible to really dislike BB and love the Patriots.

He’s been making awful personal decisions for 11 years and getting bailed out by Brady. Plus he’s incredibly unpleasant To be around and deal with. Tom finally had enough. I don’t blame him.
I want BB to leave a lot more than I’d want Tom to come back. That doesn’t make me a bucks fan. I’m a Patriots fan. BB gets worshiped here. He brought in an average free agent class, and is a genius. In BB we trust.
Well I’ve stopped drinking that cool aide. I still don’t see a team that can win the division and that’s what I’m rooting for.
I remember getting jumped on when it was completely obvious from the start that Harry was a bust.
I’m not a Bucks fan, but I enjoyed them a Super Bowl with Tom,and I’ve got some strong opinions on Belichick. Maybe y’all will come around in a few years when he’s got a losing record and a new guy comes in for the rebuild. It’s good to have different opinions here.
I really enjoy reading the people on here who disagree with mine.
 
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I’d like to point out that it’s possible to really dislike BB and love the Patriots.

He’s been making awful personal decisions for 11 years and getting bailed out by Brady. Plus he’s incredibly unpleasant To be around and deal with. Tom finally had enough. I don’t blame him.
I want BB to leave a lot more than I’d want Tom to come back. That doesn’t make me a bucks fan. I’m a Patriots fan. BB gets worshiped here. He brought in an average free agent class, and is a genius. In BB we trust.
Well I’ve stopped drinking that cool aide. I still don’t see a team that can win the division and that’s what I’m rooting for.
I remember getting jumped on when it was completely obvious from the start that Harry was a bust.
I’m not a Bucks fan, but I enjoyed them a Super Bowl with Tom,and I’ve got some strong opinions on Belichick. Maybe y’all will come around in a few years when he’s got a losing record and a new guy comes in for the rebuild. It’s good to have different opinions here.
I really enjoy reading the people on here who disagree with mine.


Yeah, that’s it.

Brady played offense, defense, and STs.

He caught every pass he threw, he blocked every pass rusher, he kicked every FG, etc.
What a ridiculous post.
And these have been average FA signings?
The two best TEs available?
Bringing back Andrews and White?
Judon?

Jesus.

Answer me this, who do you think the Patriots should have signed ?


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I think having this separate thread works well. It does keep discussion of Brady from the other threads which is a good thing. And like you said, folks can just skip the thread if they don't want to read anything pertaining to him anymore.

As an FYI, over on Patsfans they have one main thread like we do to discuss Brady/Bucs. It met some resistance at the start and now it is fine. Only the folks that want to discuss it are there and everyone else just skips it.

I just checked it out. Patsfans chose to give it a separate forum altogether, The Tom Brady Forum, so it's no longer on their Patriots Fan Forum. Smart.
 

Yes. It is a me thing and a thing for all but 4-5 other members who frequent Patriots Planet to talk about all things Patriots when we get beat over the head with Brady this and Brady that in the other threads.
 
I just checked it out. Patsfans chose to give it a separate forum altogether, The Tom Brady Forum, so it's no longer on their Patriots Fan Forum. Smart.
They have this thread which is a Brady/Bucs thread and is on the main forum and has been there since last off-season, OT: Official 2020 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

They also do have a sub-form for Brady as well. I think it works well. One thread on the main forum and then a sub-forum for any other Brady specific topics.
 
I am not sure we have the traffic to support a whole forum for it, but if the majority wants it, I can easily create it.
 
Yes. It is a me thing and a thing for all but 4-5 other members who frequent Patriots Planet to talk about all things Patriots when we get beat over the head with Brady this and Brady that in the other threads.
I think you just seem to key on those posts and you get your back up even when the post is a criticism of Bill or the team you tend to assume it is because of a pro-Brady stance which like Rivershark said, it can just be a criticism of Bill and have nothing at all to do with Brady. You seem to conflate them together for some reason and that causes a lot of your angst.

One other thing, there are so many here that really seem to dislike INSP50 (middy) yet all of you respond to him repeatedly. If he bothers you that much then why not just not respond or put him on ignore. I have been a member of several fan forums and I have never seen a poser who apparently bothers so many get so much grief yet no one does the simple thing and just not respond to him or use ignore. It is a bizarre phenomenon that seems to be germane to just this forum.
 
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I am not sure we have the traffic to support a whole forum for it, but if the majority wants it, I can easily create it.
I don't think a forum is necessary. Having one thread is perfect.
 
Florio stirring the pot here but would be interesting to see if Larry comes over to Tampa.

 
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