They Don't Call It SciFi For Nothing...

The stork isn't real dew...but, I know why many have a faith/religion to this niche. They have sunk a lot of time and energy into this stuff.

So when people physically see astronauts enter a space shuttle... which then launches moments later... and the live feed doesn’t change and you see outer space....

That’s all fake?

Get the F out of here. Such pure ridiculousness.


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I get it if you disagree...you have the right to do it. But, if you TRULY have an open mind, you must consider every angle.
I have, thanks.

I believe that the term "conspiracy theory" has a negative connotation built into it by current standards, but that doesn't
mean that there are not actual conspiracies out there. There are plenty, since manipulating public perception-- around the world --
is a time-honored way to make shitloads of money and impress people at parties. It's built into human culture. UFOs, for instance,
are a fantastic example of something that is quite real and has been deliberately and quite cleverly discredited for reasons that are still
open to interpretation.

Having said that, I think the "moon/mars landings are fake" theory is pure nonsense and the disinformation spread by it's
adherents is flat-earth level bullshit and has been exposed thoroughly as such.

But, in the words of Steve Martin "I wouldn't believe in anything if it wasn't for the North Star Wondermen with puppy dog faces"
 
So when people physically see astronauts enter a space shuttle... which then launches moments later... and the live feed doesn’t change and you see outer space....

That’s all fake?

Get the F out of here. Such pure ridiculousness.


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This topic must have hit a nerve... :coffee:
 
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I have, thanks.

I believe that the term "conspiracy theory" has a negative connotation built into it by current standards, but that doesn't
mean that there are not actual conspiracies out there. There are plenty, since manipulating public perception-- around the world --
is a time-honored way to make shitloads of money and impress people at parties. It's built into human culture. UFOs, for instance,
are a fantastic example of something that is quite real and has been deliberately and quite cleverly discredited for reasons that are still
open to interpretation.

Having said that, I think the "moon/mars landings are fake" theory is pure nonsense and the disinformation spread by it's
adherents is flat-earth level bullshit and has been exposed thoroughly as such.

But, in the words of Steve Martin "I wouldn't believe in anything if it wasn't for the North Star Wondermen with puppy dog faces"
The term conspiracy theory brings to mind all kinds of connotations that range from outlandish to crazy. These associations with the phrase were intentional and exactly what the CIA (Central Intelligence Agency) intended.

The term Conspiracy Theory was created by the CIA in 1967 as a way to discredit anyone who dared to challenge their official version of the truth.

How It All Started

It seems that the Conspiracy Theory CIA brainchild was first revealed in a 1976 dispatch.
This communication was marked “Psych” and “CS”. The psych abbreviation referred to psychological operations or what is better known in the modern world as disinformation. The CS was the abbreviation used for their Clandestine Services unit.

It was generated in “response to a Freedom of Information Act request by the New York Times in 1976.”
The dispatch first discussed how concerning this trend of requests was to the organization as well as the US government. The missive went on to explain the purpose of the dispatch, which was to “provide material countering and discrediting the claims of the conspiracy theorists, so as to inhibit the circulation of such claims in other countries.”

This was followed by an explanation that the background information could be found in the classified section as well as unclassified documents attached to the dispatch.
If there wasn’t any discussion already taking place, then the question of it being a conspiracy wasn’t to be brought up. Only where a discussion was underway was the conspiracy question to be inserted and used to create doubt.

How to Insert Conspiracy Theories

The first directive was to discuss how this was a publicity problem with “friendly elite contacts (especially politicians and editors).”
This directive was aimed at gaining the support needed to change the narrative into one of conspiracy.
Instructions included:
  • Point out a thorough investigation [official investigation of the relevant event] was conducted “as humanly possible.”
  • Critics’ allegations are without “serious foundation”.
  • To continue “speculative discussion” only helps “the opposition”.
  • “Point out also that parts of the conspiracy talk appear to be deliberately generated by … propagandists.”
  • “Urge them to use their influence to discourage unfounded and irresponsible speculation.”

Critic Attack Strategy

The next step was to “employ propaganda assets“. The sole purpose of these “assets” was to refute anything the critics had to say. Some of the disturbing tactics included:
  • “Book reviews and feature articles are particularly appropriate for this purpose.”
  • Whenever applicable, the asset was to discredit by claiming the critic was “wedded to theories adopted before the evidence was in.”
  • Critics were to be attacked as having political interests for their viewpoints.
  • Another tactic was to claim the critic had a financial interest.
  • One way to discredit a critic was to claim they were “hasty and inaccurate in their research”.
  • And the icing on the discrediting cake was to claim that the critic was “infatuated with their own theories”.

Attacks on the Media

The dispatch also covered how to assault any writer or publication that disagreed with the official narrative.
  • “No significant new evidence has emerged which the Commission did not consider.”
  • “Critics usually overvalue particular items and ignore others.”
  • Critics value and emphasize “recollections of individual witnesses”. The dispatch explains how this can be used to elaborate that witness testimony is “less reliable and more divergent”.
  • Talking point that a conspiracy “on the large scale often suggested” is impossible to hide with so many people involved and too expensive to pay informants to remain silent.
  • Point out that the “intellectual pride” of some critics entices them to connect with a theory. This fuels them to “scoff at the Commission because it did not always answer every question with a flat decision one way or the other.”
  • Deflate charges of a Commission rush job on the report by stating it came out three months after the original deadline. Blame Commission speeding up report on “pressure of irresponsible speculation” as well as the same critics refusing to admit error and voicing new criticisms.
  • Vague accusations “can always be explained in some natural way.”

Making It Law

Perhaps the most troubling aspect of the conspiracy theory initiative is how ingrained it became into US law.
Judges are “trained to look at conspiracy allegations as just another legal claim to be disproven or proven based on the specific evidence.”
  • “Federal and all 50 states” have codes that include statutes and punishments for anyone committing a conspiracy.
  • Law schools teach conspiracy law as a “fundamental legal concept”.

Accuse Conspiracy and Escape Detection

The creation of conspiracy theory has been so well-executed with the indoctrination of the average American.
Anything tagged conspiracy theory is automatically discredited. A conspiracy theorist is considered unhinged or at the very least, delusional and misguided.
When this stereotype is backed up with conspiracy theory law, it allows real conspiracies to remain hidden. This one phrase taints and discredits whistleblowers and anyone else seeking to expose the truth.

----

There are a LOT of paid disinfo agents out there...Joe Rogaine, Alex Jones, David Icke, Coast 2 Coast, Art Bell, pretty much EVERY "fuct checker", ALL of the mass media, Every propped up "guru" and "advisor" on TV constantly, etc.

I'm not going to even go to the flat earth thing...that's another topic, yet somewhat related. Interesting either way though. Anyone who is credible has to research the topic enough to get both sides down.

I absolutely believe that there are entities around us (ufo's/aliens/demons/fallen angels/whatever they're really called)...but, there's another thread for that.
 
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This topic must have hit a nerve... :coffee:

Except that this quote doesn’t apply to me, thanks. Or many here. I’ve been educated in logic, and I study epistemology closely.

How about you?

Random posts from random idiotic, uneducated YouTubers is your bread and butter.


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The term conspiracy theory brings to mind all kinds of connotations that range from outlandish to crazy. These associations with the phrase were intentional and exactly what the CIA (Central Intelligence Agency) intended.

The term Conspiracy Theory was created by the CIA in 1967 as a way to discredit anyone who dared to challenge their official version of the truth.

How It All Started

It seems that the Conspiracy Theory CIA brainchild was first revealed in a 1976 dispatch.
This communication was marked “Psych” and “CS”. The psych abbreviation referred to psychological operations or what is better known in the modern world as disinformation. The CS was the abbreviation used for their Clandestine Services unit.

It was generated in “response to a Freedom of Information Act request by the New York Times in 1976.”
The dispatch first discussed how concerning this trend of requests was to the organization as well as the US government. The missive went on to explain the purpose of the dispatch, which was to “provide material countering and discrediting the claims of the conspiracy theorists, so as to inhibit the circulation of such claims in other countries.”

This was followed by an explanation that the background information could be found in the classified section as well as unclassified documents attached to the dispatch.
If there wasn’t any discussion already taking place, then the question of it being a conspiracy wasn’t to be brought up. Only where a discussion was underway was the conspiracy question to be inserted and used to create doubt.

How to Insert Conspiracy Theories

The first directive was to discuss how this was a publicity problem with “friendly elite contacts (especially politicians and editors).”
This directive was aimed at gaining the support needed to change the narrative into one of conspiracy.
Instructions included:
  • Point out a thorough investigation [official investigation of the relevant event] was conducted “as humanly possible.”
  • Critics’ allegations are without “serious foundation”.
  • To continue “speculative discussion” only helps “the opposition”.
  • “Point out also that parts of the conspiracy talk appear to be deliberately generated by … propagandists.”
  • “Urge them to use their influence to discourage unfounded and irresponsible speculation.”

Critic Attack Strategy

The next step was to “employ propaganda assets“. The sole purpose of these “assets” was to refute anything the critics had to say. Some of the disturbing tactics included:
  • “Book reviews and feature articles are particularly appropriate for this purpose.”
  • Whenever applicable, the asset was to discredit by claiming the critic was “wedded to theories adopted before the evidence was in.”
  • Critics were to be attacked as having political interests for their viewpoints.
  • Another tactic was to claim the critic had a financial interest.
  • One way to discredit a critic was to claim they were “hasty and inaccurate in their research”.
  • And the icing on the discrediting cake was to claim that the critic was “infatuated with their own theories”.

Attacks on the Media

The dispatch also covered how to assault any writer or publication that disagreed with the official narrative.
  • “No significant new evidence has emerged which the Commission did not consider.”
  • “Critics usually overvalue particular items and ignore others.”
  • Critics value and emphasize “recollections of individual witnesses”. The dispatch explains how this can be used to elaborate that witness testimony is “less reliable and more divergent”.
  • Talking point that a conspiracy “on the large scale often suggested” is impossible to hide with so many people involved and too expensive to pay informants to remain silent.
  • Point out that the “intellectual pride” of some critics entices them to connect with a theory. This fuels them to “scoff at the Commission because it did not always answer every question with a flat decision one way or the other.”
  • Deflate charges of a Commission rush job on the report by stating it came out three months after the original deadline. Blame Commission speeding up report on “pressure of irresponsible speculation” as well as the same critics refusing to admit error and voicing new criticisms.
  • Vague accusations “can always be explained in some natural way.”

Making It Law

Perhaps the most troubling aspect of the conspiracy theory initiative is how ingrained it became into US law.
Judges are “trained to look at conspiracy allegations as just another legal claim to be disproven or proven based on the specific evidence.”
  • “Federal and all 50 states” have codes that include statutes and punishments for anyone committing a conspiracy.
  • Law schools teach conspiracy law as a “fundamental legal concept”.

Accuse Conspiracy and Escape Detection

The creation of conspiracy theory has been so well-executed with the indoctrination of the average American.
Anything tagged conspiracy theory is automatically discredited. A conspiracy theorist is considered unhinged or at the very least, delusional and misguided.
When this stereotype is backed up with conspiracy theory law, it allows real conspiracies to remain hidden. This one phrase taints and discredits whistleblowers and anyone else seeking to expose the truth.

----

There are a LOT of paid disinfo agents out there...Joe Rogaine, Alex Jones, David Icke, Coast 2 Coast, Art Bell, pretty much EVERY "fuct checker", ALL of the mass media, Every propped up "guru" and "advisor" on TV constantly, etc.

I'm not going to even go to the flat earth thing...that's another topic, yet somewhat related. Interesting either way though. Anyone who is credible has to research the topic enough to get both sides down.

I absolutely believe that there are entities around us (ufo's/aliens/demons/fallen angels/whatever they're really called)...but, there's another thread for that.

Uh, that’s a lot of copying and pasting without proper citations.
Hilarious.


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Edward De Bono technique of Lateral thinking.

Mention anything...and connect...connect..
 
The problem with Conspiracy Theories is that too many people see where one was legit and start to believe they all are. I admit the moon landing has some cool conspiracies, but that doesn't outweigh the fact that cameras that didn't have the technology we have today, broadcast the launches. People attended launches. I watched a Shuttle launch in 1991 when I was working in the Melbourne area. Those pictures from space had to be taken before they could be potentially faked.

I get there are some things that are secret and used to manipulate us, but not the things we can see with our own eyes. Like looking up at the Space Station when it flies by, overhead. It's there, I've seen it many times
 
Except that this quote doesn’t apply to me, thanks. Or many here. I’ve been educated in logic, and I study epistemology closely.

How about you?

Random posts from random idiotic, uneducated YouTubers is your bread and butter.


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Cognitive Dissonance is thick with you on this topic...
 
So when people physically see astronauts enter a space shuttle... which then launches moments later... and the live feed doesn’t change and you see outer space....

That’s all fake?

Get the F out of here. Such pure ridiculousness.


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CGI is the answer. You're going down with the ship on this one, aren't you? :coffee:
 
So when people physically see astronauts enter a space shuttle... which then launches moments later... and the live feed doesn’t change and you see outer space....

That’s all fake?

Get the F out of here. Such pure ridiculousness.


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I've never once stated that they don't launch...but, they're not going where you assume that they go. Stop with the gaslighting and false inserting of words into people's overall premise.
 
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