The 2021 Patriots' Preseason Camp

I could not longer access the "Looking at Patriots 2021" thread so I think this thread has replaced it?

Anyways, wanted to post these thoughts from King on Belichick's future. I am not sure I agree with him on Shula's record. I do think Bill wants to break it whether that is with us or another team. I also agree with him that Bill wants to leave the Pats with a bright future and hopes Jones is that guy to provide the franchise QB element. I do think King sells Bill short in terms of him wanting a new challenge like Brady did going to Tampa. I think he would relish the chance to try to duplicate his success with another franchise. What do others think?

The Future Of Belichick

Bill Belichick turned 69 in April. Twelve years ago, he said he wouldn’t be coaching in his seventies. Two years ago, he said on WEEI in Boston: “When I said it, maybe I didn’t know what 70 felt like.” So how much longer will he coach? Belichick’s not one to talk openly about his plans, or even privately about them. Maybe he doesn’t know. But I get four feelings about him:

• This probably won’t be his last year, and I doubt that 2022 will be. He’s a young 69, maybe not in the effervescent way of fellow 69er Pete Carroll (seven months older than Belichick).

• The way Belichick is, I doubt sincerely he’d leave the Patriots with a dim future. He’ll view as part of his legacy the shape he left the franchise. That’s why Mac Jones falling to New England at 15 this year was so important to New England’s long-term future—it allows Belichick to feel like there’s a good chance the team now has its quarterback for the post-Brady period.

• I don’t think he hangs on just to break Don Shula’s all-time record for coaching victories if he thinks it’s time to go after, say, 2023 or ’24. On the all-time coaching wins list (including playoffs), Shula is first with 347, George Halas second with 324, Belichick third with 311. It may take Belichick four years to get those 37 wins. Maybe three or five—who knows? It’s certainly within reach, but I don’t see it being Belichick’s end-game.

• I’m sure, as a dad, Belichick wanted to help his kids on career paths if they wanted the help. Amanda is a lacrosse coach at Holy Cross. Steve, 34, is a Patriots defensive assistant with rising importance. Brian is the team’s safeties coach. Steve’s married, Brian’s slated to get married this summer. The kids are on their way, with helpful assistance from their father.

What it all means: Belichick can walk away on his terms, when he wants. And if the team progresses the way he thinks it will, he can walk away feeling good about the future of what he leaves behind.

 

Bwaha, Great. Your word. Twist away Skippy. Explain how it is that you didn't say great. We all know how you'll do it.
 
Look, in case you truly are confused and not trolling for effect, you said Newton wasn't great because he wasn't consistent and went on a rant about him, responding to Roberto who was merely giving an example of what I said about pre-judging players and then finding data to support that decision as opposed to analyzing pros and cons. No one said Cam was or wasn't great except you.

All you're doing is twistng and highjacking a discussion between me and Roberto. I'm trying not to be too harsh, but it is beyond getting tiresome.

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Back to pre-season, has Ronnie Perkins been on the field? He's a guy I thought would be talked about heavily.
 
Sure we saw that in the Seattle game last year. Apparently, Cam gets no credit in that game for his throws, giving Jules a record day in recpeions for one, as Seattle were poor in pass defense.
He effectively ended Jules season and career with that game.
 
Jules was hurt coming into the season. Cam needed to manage him so he could last the season. Throwing that many balls to him wrecked his knee as he was in a pitch count after that and ineffective as a result. Then he had season ending surgery which ultimately ended his career.
 
Jules was hurt coming into the season. Cam needed to manage him so he could last the season. Throwing that many balls to him wrecked his knee as he was in a pitch count after that and ineffective as a result. Then he had season ending surgery which ultimately ended his career.
Jesus I’ve heard it all now!!!!:LOL::LOL:
 
Jules was hurt coming into the season. Cam needed to manage him so he could last the season. Throwing that many balls to him wrecked his knee as he was in a pitch count after that and ineffective as a result. Then he had season ending surgery which ultimately ended his career.
we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.
 
Jules was hurt coming into the season. Cam needed to manage him so he could last the season. Throwing that many balls to him wrecked his knee as he was in a pitch count after that and ineffective as a result. Then he had season ending surgery which ultimately ended his career.

Oh my friggin’ goodness.

Cam threw to the open WR.

What was he supposed to do, go for the guy who wasn’t as open?

JHC, is there anything that you can’t spin poorly?


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