DropKickFlutie
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Reflecting post-draft, it seems the Patriots rolled back the clock and drafted analagous players from 17 years ago. Problem is it might be more reminiscent of the decade-long drought period as opposed to any of the dynasty years. By the way what was Matt Patricia doing so involved in the war room? I feel uneasy knowing he was there and then see we went OG and WR first knowing he is now involved on OLine and offense.
I wonder if Groh/Wolf played second fiddle to BB/Patricia this time given how much this draft smelled like an old BB Patriots type draft (not the good kind).
Draft and career look back:
1. Logan Mankins, analagous to Cole Strange.
Mankins was drafted in the late first round in 2005 to the bewilderment of many. Tough, aggressive, nasty LG. Became a 6 time all pro. Was taken before SF was going to get him. Never won a ring, the Pats went to the Superbowl twice and lost. Mankins left and the Patriots won rings after, in part due to adding Thuney + Mason + Cannon cheap. Mankins was a great player but in my mind a guard/RB is never a good use of 1st round pick value. I expect Strange to be a good player who fills a need after the Patriots self-inflicted this positional need.
2. Bethel Johnson, analagous to Tyquan Thornton.
Johnson was taken in the 2nd round at #45. Blazing fast speed, ran a 4.26 40-time. Problem was he only ran a few routes and never even had a 200-yard season. In general the career records of fastest-WR at the combine, isn't good as the most important criteria for a WR is if they can get open, not 40-time. Johnson never overtook Branch as a reliable receiver, even in the 2006 season when they badly needed a WR to step up. Bethel's lack of development led to another 2nd round epic bust draft pick of Chad Jackson in 2006. Jackson looked smooth in clips but never got the playbook and was a draft bust from day1.
3. Ellis Hobbs, analagous to Marcus Jones.
Hobbs was taken in the 3rd round at #84 in 2005. Small corner with a big heart, and also kick returner. Was never really an elite outside corner. I can't think of a versatile CB/ST guy who ever panned out for the Pats. Still have PTSD seeing Hobbs try to cover a 6'5 WR in the biggest moment of a losing Superbowl, while playing injured on his small frame. This draft period was when the Pats had a completely broken CB scouting method and cycled through 10 crappy small CBs over several years (Terrence Wheatley, etc) before finally fixing it externally via Talib and then Revis several years later. This period using this crappy CB scouting method, the Pats defense was consistently terrible on 3rd down and played too much soft zone. Hobbs lasted 6 seasons in the NFL (ringless).
I wonder if Groh/Wolf played second fiddle to BB/Patricia this time given how much this draft smelled like an old BB Patriots type draft (not the good kind).
Draft and career look back:
1. Logan Mankins, analagous to Cole Strange.
Mankins was drafted in the late first round in 2005 to the bewilderment of many. Tough, aggressive, nasty LG. Became a 6 time all pro. Was taken before SF was going to get him. Never won a ring, the Pats went to the Superbowl twice and lost. Mankins left and the Patriots won rings after, in part due to adding Thuney + Mason + Cannon cheap. Mankins was a great player but in my mind a guard/RB is never a good use of 1st round pick value. I expect Strange to be a good player who fills a need after the Patriots self-inflicted this positional need.
Logan Mankins Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Draft, College | Pro-Football-Reference.com
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2. Bethel Johnson, analagous to Tyquan Thornton.
Johnson was taken in the 2nd round at #45. Blazing fast speed, ran a 4.26 40-time. Problem was he only ran a few routes and never even had a 200-yard season. In general the career records of fastest-WR at the combine, isn't good as the most important criteria for a WR is if they can get open, not 40-time. Johnson never overtook Branch as a reliable receiver, even in the 2006 season when they badly needed a WR to step up. Bethel's lack of development led to another 2nd round epic bust draft pick of Chad Jackson in 2006. Jackson looked smooth in clips but never got the playbook and was a draft bust from day1.
Bethel Johnson Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Draft, College | Pro-Football-Reference.com
Checkout the latest stats for Bethel Johnson. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, college, draft, and more on Pro-football-reference.com.
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3. Ellis Hobbs, analagous to Marcus Jones.
Hobbs was taken in the 3rd round at #84 in 2005. Small corner with a big heart, and also kick returner. Was never really an elite outside corner. I can't think of a versatile CB/ST guy who ever panned out for the Pats. Still have PTSD seeing Hobbs try to cover a 6'5 WR in the biggest moment of a losing Superbowl, while playing injured on his small frame. This draft period was when the Pats had a completely broken CB scouting method and cycled through 10 crappy small CBs over several years (Terrence Wheatley, etc) before finally fixing it externally via Talib and then Revis several years later. This period using this crappy CB scouting method, the Pats defense was consistently terrible on 3rd down and played too much soft zone. Hobbs lasted 6 seasons in the NFL (ringless).
Ellis Hobbs Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Draft, College | Pro-Football-Reference.com
Checkout the latest stats for Ellis Hobbs. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, college, draft, and more on Pro-football-reference.com.
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