Pats 2nd Round #50 Pick -- Tyquan Thornton

Absolutely correct. The draft weenies scream, "WTF are they doing??? He was no more than a second rounder! We're screwed!" Well, if the guy ends up being a real, contributing player, which often happens, no one remembers or cares where TF he was drafted nor do they remember.the guy drafted after him whom we could have had who ended up a bust. It's all such hindsight, phony BS. It's particularly disappointing when usually responsible media people get caught up in and engage in that absolute nonsense. And it happens all the time.
I just don't understand why some are so negative about Thornton. I took the time to watch about 3 hours of film on him and the man has good hand and snatchers the ball in the air. 6'2" with that speed thank you very much.
 
I'm not against the pick but it will be a couple of years before the Pats know what they got. I highly doubt he's much of a contributor this year unless a spot opens up by trade or injury. 20-25 targets at most.
 
I'm not against the pick but it will be a couple of years before the Pats know what they got. I highly doubt he's much of a contributor this year unless a spot opens up by trade or injury. 20-25 targets at most.

Based on what man? Based on what?

And be precise
 
Based on what man? Based on what?

And be precise
Mainly talking out of my ass and trying to cause trouble, but I did give it about 60 seconds of thought. A lot of WR including vets have had trouble learning this offense, rookie WR traditionally barely see the field their 1st year(on this team), and add to that I don't see him beating out any of the current starters to get any real playing time. Who is he even competing against for a spot? He's not competing with Bourne or Meyers who go over the middle, he's not going to play over Parker. The only one he's really competing against is the 14 million dollar man, good luck with that. He will get nothing more than spot playing time. When Agholor is gone next year, that will be his year to shine, and personally I see nothing wrong with that.
 
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Mainly talking out of my ass and trying to cause trouble, but I did give it about 60 seconds of thought. A lot of WR including vets have had trouble learning this offense, rookie WR traditionally barely see the field their 1st year(on this team), and add to that I don't see him beating out any of the current starters to get any real playing time. Who is he even competing against for a spot? He's not competing with Bourne or Meyers who go over the middle, he's not going to play over Parker. The only one he's really competing against is the 14 million dollar man, good luck with that. He will get nothing more than spot playing time. When Agholor is gone next year, that will be his year to shine, and personally I see nothing wrong with that.

If Thornton is the ONE guy that can rocket down the sideline and drag a safety over to help a trailing CB then he will see the field even if he only gets 30 targets. The defenses will have no choice.

How many more open targets will Bourne, Meyers and Henry get as a result?
 
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Imo, Thornton could be useful this year for 3rd and long, for wtf splash plays on 2nd and short and for EZ throws. Malcolm Mitchell did pretty well his rookie season.
He certainly did and came up huge in the SB, but I see that as an outlier. It does give some hope though.
 
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If Thornton is the ONE guy that can rocket down the sideline and drag a safety over to help a trailing CB then he will see the field even if he only get 30 targets. The defenses will have no choice.

How many more open targets will Bourne, Meyers and Henry get as a result?
I disagree to a point, Jones will actually need to connect a few times on those plays for defenses to respect it. They're not going to double team him just because he's fast. And has to first prove he can beat press coverage fast enough to even have time to run down the field. If he/they do those 2 things then yes you have a point it will open plays underneath and seam routes too.
 
I disagree to a point, Jones will actually need to connect a few times on those plays for defenses to respect it. They're not going to double team him just because he's fast. And has to first prove he can beat press coverage fast enough to even have time to run down the field. If he/they do those 2 things then yes you have a point it will open plays underneath and seam routes too.
If he is past the CB they will send help. Based on what we have seen from college he can get pasty the press.
 
I just don't understand why some are so negative about Thornton. I took the time to watch about 3 hours of film on him and the man has good hand and snatchers the ball in the air. 6'2" with that speed thank you very much.

I knew who he was and it didn't take watching a lot of Baylor football to know that he was their No. 1 weapon and was often double teamed.

I believe he would have been "ranked" (insert rolleyes) higher except for a pretty deep crop of WRs and his skinny frame pushed him down the draftnik totem pole as well, because it's something that is easy to notice.

It didn't take a pro scout to see that he can really fly, but after you watch him for a while you notice that he has soft, sure hands, gets off the line well, runs pretty good routes and takes a hit without flinching and losing the ball. He's skinny, but I think it's a wiry tough kind of skinny. He grew up in Overtown, so I doubt he's afraid to take a hard hit on a football field.

One of the critiques on him is that he doesn't get YAC. I suggest that one reason for that is because he was always bracketed in coverage because he was the primary key to stopping Baylor. He got swarmed and still managed to be productive.

I'm intrigued to picture him on a field where he is one of several viable options, but happens to be the fastest guy in the stadium.

I can see him changing the formula on 3rd down where the D just can't double down on Jakobi, James White or whoever without worrying about big-time speed on the wing.

I'm not predicting instant stardom, but the threat he represents will help us the second he takes the field. You can't ignore Tyquan and the overall offense will benefit from his presence while
he learns the ropes.
 
He needs to refine his drag routes. He could be dangerous AF with the Patriots if he becomes a technician with those 5-15 yard drag routes across the defense.
 
I knew who he was and it didn't take watching a lot of Baylor football to know that he was their No. 1 weapon and was often double teamed.

I believe he would have been "ranked" (insert rolleyes) higher except for a pretty deep crop of WRs and his skinny frame pushed him down the draftnik totem pole as well, because it's something that is easy to notice.

It didn't take a pro scout to see that he can really fly, but after you watch him for a while you notice that he has soft, sure hands, gets off the line well, runs pretty good routes and takes a hit without flinching and losing the ball. He's skinny, but I think it's a wiry tough kind of skinny. He grew up in Overtown, so I doubt he's afraid to take a hard hit on a football field.

One of the critiques on him is that he doesn't get YAC. I suggest that one reason for that is because he was always bracketed in coverage because he was the primary key to stopping Baylor. He got swarmed and still managed to be productive.

I'm intrigued to picture him on a field where he is one of several viable options, but happens to be the fastest guy in the stadium.

I can see him changing the formula on 3rd down where the D just can't double down on Jakobi, James White or whoever without worrying about big-time speed on the wing.

I'm not predicting instant stardom, but the threat he represents will help us the second he takes the field. You can't ignore Tyquan and the overall offense will benefit from his presence while
he learns the ropes

I just don't understand why some are so negative about Thornton. I took the time to watch about 3 hours of film on him and the man has good hand and snatchers the ball in the air. 6'2" with that speed thank you very much.
No one will care if he can play, but my point has always been that if he can't, and several of the other Wrs that were available do make impacts for their teams, then Bill needs to be held accountable. The "Bill can do no wrong", have made it very clear that he's a draft genius, so when he takes a Wrs in the second round that no other living person had projected before the fourth or later, he should hit on him, right?
 
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If he is past the CB they will send help. Based on what we have seen from college he can get pasty the press.
That's great but he has to prove he can do it against NFL caliber CBs, that's all I'm saying. Defenses aren't going respect him because of what he did in college. Chad Jackson and Bethel Johnson had comparable speed with Brady throwing to them, did they get double teamed out of the gate, or at any point? Honest question because no way am I going to remember that.
 
No one will care if he can play, but my point has always been that if he can't, and several of the other Wrs that were available do make impacts for their teams, then Bill needs to be held accountable. The "Bill can do no wrongBobos", have made it very clear that he's a draft genius, so when he takes a Wrs in the second round that no other living person had projected before the fourth or later, he should hit on him, right?

Other teams were mentioned as planning on taking him in the second round. How you missed that, I’m not sure.


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It amazes me to see the negativity about potential. If, if if. If a frog had a glass ass it would keep its ass off the sidewalk. At least J E T E fans have hope for what the team is doing. How can you act like this and claim to be a fan of the team? You can say I wear rose colored glasses all you want, I will respond with you wear shit colored glasses and I prefer my way. The smell is better.
 
That's great but he has to prove he can do it against NFL caliber CBs, that's all I'm saying. Defenses aren't going respect him because of what he did in college. Chad Jackson and Bethel Johnson had comparable speed with Brady throwing to them, did they get double teamed out of the gate, or at any point? Honest question because no way am I going to remember that.

He might also be a wife beater and cheat on taxes.

I guess we will have to see, now won't we?
 
Other teams were mentioned as planning on taking him in the second round. How you missed that, I’m not sure.


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Sure, but they didn't pick him did they, Bill did. What you are clearly missing is that every major scouting publication had him no earlier than the 4th round, and most later than that. All I'm saying is that Bill is clearly saying he knows more than they do, so as a fan, I'm saying he better be right because if he continues with his subpar drafting record the nowrong-boboBills are going to have to come up with new excuses.
 
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It amazes me to see the negativity about potential. If, if if. If a frog had a glass ass it would keep its ass off the sidewalk. At least J E T E fans have hope for what the team is doing. How can you act like this and claim to be a fan of the team? You can say I wear rose colored glasses all you want, I will respond with you wear shit colored glasses and I prefer my way. The smell is better.
Why is it being disloyal in your mind to question these picks? Honestly, I'd like to know. I have no problem saying Bill is the greatest coach in the history of the game, but he's has not been a great GM, ar least not recently. Why do you think we had to spend 160 millon last off season? It was directly because of Bill's own draft failuers that required the team to spend that money just to get the roster back to respectability Acknowledging this as a Patriots fan doesn't make you a troll, it doesn't make you disloyal, it simply means you have eyes and a rational concept of what's actually going on.
 
Why is it being disloyal in your mind to question these picks? Honestly, I'd like to know. I have no problem saying Bill is the greatest coach in the history of the game, but he's has not been a great GM, ar least not recently. Why do you think we had to spend 160 millon last off season? It was directly because of Bill's own draft failuers that required the team to spend that money just to get the roster back to respectability Acknowledging this as a Patriots fan doesn't make you a troll, it doesn't make you disloyal, it simply means you have eyes and a rational concept of what's actually going on.
Where do I even mention disloyalty? You are reading what you think I am saying, not what I am writing. I am commenting on negativity, not loyalty. I am not glass half full, I am half a glass, full or empty to be determined.
 
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