Patriots Offensive Line Issues

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Some damning stats about this offensive line that Curran put out today:

Lazy undisciplined penalties:

#2 in the NFL in offensive holding penalties
26 sacks allowed
13 pre-snap penalties

I’m going to keep calling this out even if people try to censor it
 
Last 4 games, Pats OLine stats:

Minnesota: 3 sacks, 3 QB hits

Jets: 6 sacks, 8 QB hits

Colts: 4 sacks, 7 QB hits
Colts vs. Patriots - Box Score - November 6, 2022 - ESPN

Jets: 6 sacks, 8 QB hits
Patriots vs. Jets - Box Score - October 30, 2022 - ESPN
 
He makes me nuts but on this topic he is right. 100%
 
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It didn’t look like a lot of sacks today but the OLine was terrible again in pass protection
 
It didn’t look like a lot of sacks today but the OLine was terrible again in pass protection
It was one sack. And they were ok considering how patchwork it was. Jones makes the protection look terrible when he has to come off his first read.
 
It was one sack. And they were ok considering how patchwork it was. Jones makes the protection look terrible when he has to come off his first read.

The OLine pass protection was horrible but you can continue living in la la land and think the OLine was fine
 
Here I will say again that a leaky O line should get a couple of designed roll outs a game at least.
I agree.

Although I also weigh that against a QB who has struggled to make even the most basic throws.
 
I agree.

Although I also weigh that against a QB who has struggled to make even the most basic throws.
What is his completion % again? In the face of Patricia and that Oline?
 
I understand the frustration with the Oline, but I look around the league. Few teams are happy with their offensive lines.
How many teams really are happy with their Oline week in and week out? It’s not many.
The Strange pick will haunt us. If you’re spending a first on a guard, he’s got to be a special talent. Strange is not that. He looks like a good 4th rounder.
A lot of the problem is coaching and just mediocre players all over the offense. There are no true playmakers. You combine that with uninspired coaching and here we are.
 
Trent Brown wasn't better than a jag the first time he was with us; he was our worst OLineman back then, too.

you mean in 2018 when he started every game at left tackle and the Patriots won a Superbowl behind a dominant playoff OLine ?
 
I understand the frustration with the Oline, but I look around the league. Few teams are happy with their offensive lines.
How many teams really are happy with their Oline week in and week out? It’s not many.
The Strange pick will haunt us. If you’re spending a first on a guard, he’s got to be a special talent. Strange is not that. He looks like a good 4th rounder.
A lot of the problem is coaching and just mediocre players all over the offense. There are no true playmakers. You combine that with uninspired coaching and here we are.

I agree not a great look to burn a 1st on a guard to replace letting go Karras, Mason, and Thuney. Also burning a 2nd on Thornton only to never use him or Parker, partly bc the OLine can’t pass-protect for 2 seconds, also looks terrible. The off-season needs a major revamp at OLine and then multiple defensive holes in personnel (MLB, NT, FS, CB1)
 
Mac was running for his life all last game

“According to Next Gen Stats, Jones finished the game 7-of-20 for 57 yards on passes with time to throw of 2.5-plus seconds”

 
you mean in 2018 when he started every game at left tackle and the Patriots won a Superbowl behind a dominant playoff OLine ?

Yes but he was our worst lineman. I'm traveling and don't have access to PFF grades to prove it.
 
I agree not a great look to burn a 1st on a guard to replace letting go Karras, Mason, and Thuney. Also burning a 2nd on Thornton only to never use him or Parker, partly bc the OLine can’t pass-protect for 2 seconds, also looks terrible. The off-season needs a major revamp at OLine and then multiple defensive holes in personnel (MLB, NT, FS, CB1)
Doesn't it really say it all that after drafting the fastest wr avaliable they had to put a CB in on offense to run a simple bubble screen.
 
Doesn't it really say it all that after drafting the fastest wr avaliable they had to put a CB in on offense to run a simple bubble screen.

Signs you have a pop warner offensive staff (Matt Patricia, Joe Judge, Evan Rothstein):
  • Dead last in red zone, worse than the worst offenses in the league (Broncos, Colts, etc)
  • 27th on 3rd down
  • The Pro Bowl rookie QB goes from elite against the blitz to worst among NFL starters
  • Let good guards go in Thuney, Mason, Karras to burn a precious 1st round pick on a D3 school offensive guard who is consistently overpowered by strength.
  • Burn a 2nd pick on Thornton and also trade for Parker on a vertical scheme that makes no sense since your QB is a short-throw field general and your OLine can’t pass protect more than 2 seconds for any vertical plays.
  • Have your 2 elite expensive TEs have the worst season of their careers, in favor of a crappy spread shotgun scheme that again cannot pass protect more than 2 seconds
  • Spend 3 months on a crappy zone stretch scheme and then abandon it within 2 weeks of the regular season (shows BB is checked out)
  • Piss off arguably your best WR in 2021 (Bourne) who sees through this pop warner staff
 
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