Jakobi Meyers to the Raiders

Tesla's are very impressive automobiles, aren't they? Mind blowing acceleration and so quiet you can hear a pin drop.
The performance is fantastic. I’ve never driven, but I’ve ridden in several. And it’s not just straight acceleration either. They corner like on rails.

But the tether to the electrical grid is a deal killer for me. At least, as long as I would need to use the Tesla as something more than a toy.
 
Changes are being made, but maybe Jakobi just wasn't interested in seeing it play out. He said the Raiders wanted him, they gave him a good offer, so he signed.

The Pats are not the go-to destination anymore. They're a mediocre football team quiet so far in free agency, so we'll see what they look like come September.
 
Changes are being made, but maybe Jakobi just wasn't interested in seeing it play out. He said the Raiders wanted him, they gave him a good offer, so he signed.

The Pats are not the go-to destination anymore. They're a mediocre football team quiet so far in free agency, so we'll see what they look like come September.
I have no specific knowledge whatsoever, so take this post with a pound of salt:

It seems the general feel that I’m reading on Twitter and other sites when I venture off a little is that the Patriots could’ve had him for the 33 million but told him to take it.

True or not I don’t know but I’ll be interested to find out because it will speak loudly about Kraft’s budget for this year.

What has MR said if anything?
 
Well said

The backwards rationalizing here is weak.

Allen Lazard just signed for 11M/yr and this dud only produces about 500 receiving yards/year. Meyers just left on a very underpaid contract that the Pats declined to match. Maybe the front office is so stupid they thought Meyers wasn’t even possible so never made an offer. But then to turn down the opportunity to match makes zero sense.

This WR corps is broken now. Bourne is the only decent WR and not sure he can even run every route. Parker sucks and Thornton hasn’t proven anything.
What makes you thin that Meyers gave them a chance to match?
 
What I'm told is the Pats issue with Meyers is his lack of skills after the catch. The Pats want someone who can be more dynamic after the catch. A trade for a WR1 is expected.

again a terrible reason. let’s stop justifying a bad decision by the Patriots. it’s unclear if they know what they are doing. Getting Parker and Thornton are also still huge question marks. Agholor and Jonnu didn’t pan out. The Pats have always been big on dink and dunk and moving the chains snd Meyers was the team leader in 1st down catches
 
What I'm told is the Pats issue with Meyers is his lack of skills after the catch. The Pats want someone who can be more dynamic after the catch. A trade for a WR1 is expected.

Meyers is a good guy with decent hands and a wide-array of jukes that can get him open given enough time to string them together. He is also very
slow for a WR. Very. I would also say that he didn't always show good situational awareness and took too many pre-snap penalties for a guy who has been
around for a while. Nice person, but not exactly smart between the white lines.

Picture Edelman jab-stepping himself open in a split second for a key first down and then imagine Meyers rolling off the line and stringing
together a couple of moves until he gets his guy off-balance enough to break open. He's great at that, but it simply took too long to be a dependable
option.

We got a couple of fine years from an UDFA who is effective as long as nobody is worrying about covering him and his line can hold up for a couple of extra beats as he
adds a dead-leg to head-bob to an inside-out. His production was there, but you have to look at the overall context of what his catches actually did to
benefit the Offense.

Back in the day there was a popular local who sang and played guitar. At closing time, he'd always play an inspiring tune that contained the lyric:
stick with the dogs -- they're man's best friend

It was a none-too-subtle reminder that you should ask the girl with limited options if you don't want to end up striking out for the night.

That is my tortured Jakobi Meyers analogy. We shouldn't be satisfied with settling for the mediocre-ish sure-thing because we're afraid to
go out and find a smokeshow who was just waiting for somebody to ask.

I've seen enough 8-in-the-box Defenses to last me for quite a while, Thank you.
 
Rappaport said the Pats decided not to match. Let’s stop making up reasons to defend a terrible Patriots decision
This is where speculation brings a narrative that is not necessarily true. What Rap said was the Pats said good deal you should take it. He did not say that Meyers allowed the Pats to match. Is it possible that Meyers told the Pats 11 million over 3 years is what McD is offering. Can you do better? I have not read one thing that said Meyers was going to allow the Pats to match. Only message board people have said that.
 
This is where speculation brings a narrative that is not necessarily true. What Rap said was the Pats said good deal you should take it. He did not say that Meyers allowed the Pats to match. Is it possible that Meyers told the Pats 11 million over 3 years is what McD is offering. Can you do better? I have not read one thing that said Meyers was going to allow the Pats to match. Only message board people have said that.

And how are you not speculating ? Meyers hinted that this was his best offer and that God works in mysterious ways. Why would the Pats say ‘good offer good luck to you’ if they didn’t have an opportunity to match. I think it’s grasping at straws to speculate that Meyers didn’t give the Pats a chance. A reporter literary said the Pats decided not to match.

Going after playmakers is moronic. No faith in this front office to make good WR (or OG) decisions when one looks at Parker, Thornton, Agholor, Jonnu Smith. No more of these duds.
 
Rappaport said the Pats decided not to match. Let’s stop making up reasons to defend a terrible Patriots decision
You don’t believe the Patriots had their reasons? Do you think Bill Belichick flipped a coin? Consulted with Nike? Do you think he just said “fuck it? I don’t like wide receivers, whose names end in an M…..except Moss?”

Do you think there is any chance whatsoever that you don’t know every single thing the Patriots know?

I think you know 20% of what you think you know. And I’m being generous.

I think I know probably far less than 20% of what goes into the Patriots brain trust decision making. So I don’t throw myself out on a limb, stark naked every day, trying to pretend otherwise.

Imagine a patriots planet, where you offered your opinions and did it in a way that allowed folks to piggyback off of them and engage in legitimate discussion. Would that be a great world? Let’s quit it with the constant patriots brain, trust, bashing, and give them credit until we see what happens.

I suggested this about Patricia and Joe Judge last year, and I was completely and utterly wrong. But it was merely a suggestion not some thing I try to sell as fact.

Think about it. People wouldn’t post here if they didn’t want to engage in discussion and your style basically shut it off.
 
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And how are you not speculating ? Meyers hinted that this was his best offer and that God works in mysterious ways. Why would the Pats say ‘good offer good luck to you’ if they didn’t have an opportunity to match. I think it’s grasping at straws to speculate that Meyers didn’t give the Pats a chance. A reporter literary said the Pats decided not to match.

Going after playmakers is moronic. No faith in this front office to make good WR (or OG) decisions when one looks at Parker, Thornton, Agholor, Jonnu Smith. No more of these duds.
I prefaced my statement with is it possible, I stated nothing as fact as you did. And still what you quoted Rap as saying is not what he said
 
again a terrible reason. let’s stop justifying a bad decision by the Patriots. it’s unclear if they know what they are doing. Getting Parker and Thornton are also still huge question marks. Agholor and Jonnu didn’t pan out. The Pats have always been big on dink and dunk and moving the chains snd Meyers was the team leader in 1st down catches

It's not a bad decision as long we get an upgrade.
Most often Meyers immediately went down after a catch rather than look for YAC. Many here commented about that and it was a frustrating habit the coaches couldn't correct.

Reports I've gotten the last few days have also included info on Jonnu. He had a difficult time with learning the options on the routes.
That makes sense and I always thought it because Jonnu was most often implicated when our receivers were spaced poorly or he actually bumped into them.
 
The Pats are not the go-to destination anymore. They're a mediocre football team quiet so far in free agency, so we'll see what they look like come September.
they were way below avg on offense and below avg on st last year, but the d was championship caliber. much as i am sad to lose a pretty dependable wr and a good guy like jakobi, the pats never were really big on signing fa at any point under bb.
 
It's not a bad decision as long we get an upgrade.
Most often Meyers immediately went down after a catch rather than look for YAC. Many here commented about that and it was a frustrating habit the coaches couldn't correct.

Reports I've gotten the last few days have also included info on Jonnu. He had a difficult time with learning the options on the routes.
That makes sense and I always thought it because Jonnu was most often implicated when our receivers were spaced poorly or he actually bumped into them.

and that’s OK to not be great at YAC. Meyers was an elite route runner and had an excellent catch rate. If he had enough targets like other top20 WRs got he would be a thousand yard WR.

Your reasoning makes zero sense because Bourne and Jonnu were great at YAC and these 2 were the most benched WRs last year. The Patriots do not know what they want to be or what they are doing at the wide receiver position
 
Reports I've gotten the last few days

1. That was obvious about Jonnu Smith and the Pats stupidly never adapted to the player. Jonnu should not have been asked to run the Welker/Edelman complicated option routes. Jonnu was a great YAC TE who should have run screens and really simple routes and let him run with the ball after a quick dump off.

2. Secondly, and I don’t have time to go dig it up, but no offense, just recently you mentioned having lunch and then that info turned out 100% wrong later in the day. So whoever you’re talking to is also not a good source. Let me also go have lunch and report back random rumors too
 
and that’s OK to not be great at YAC. Meyers was an elite route runner and had an excellent catch rate. If he had enough targets like other top20 WRs got he would be a thousand yard WR.

Your reasoning makes zero sense because Bourne and Jonnu were great at YAC and these 2 were the most benched WRs last year. The Patriots do not know what they want to be or what they are doing at the wide receiver position

I told you what people who know told me about Meyers and Jonnu. Bourne was in someone's doghouse. I'm told he's out now.
How do you jump from 2 receivers were let go to "the Patriots do not know what they want...."? They know they need to change the receiver room.
1. That was obvious about Jonnu Smith and the Pats stupidly never adapted to the player. Jonnu should not have been asked to run the Welker/Edelman complicated option routes. Jonnu was a great YAC TE who should have run screens and really simple routes and let him run with the ball after a quick dump off.

2. Secondly, and I don’t have time to go dig it up, but no offense, just recently you mentioned having lunch and then that info turned out 100% wrong later in the day. So whoever you’re talking to is also not a good source. Let me also to have lunch and report back random rumors too

Only the last part was wrong but even that was prefaced with what they thought would happen. My sources are solid.
 
Not a good stat, Patriots lead the entire league in LEAST total cash spending and least active cash spending.


Indeed and BB complained loudly about that about a year ago which was a shot directly at RKK.
Cap spending meets the 2 year number required by the CBA but cash spending is different. It requires an infusion of capital for signing bonuses and, I'm pretty sure, escrow for guarantees.
Hopefully RKK will allow his corp. to give up more cash soon.
 
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