Did you see this? I never saw a reply from you.


http://myespn.go.com/blogs/hashmarks...r-Manning.html


yes and next year they'll do a poll and it will be whatever QB had the best season that year.

Funny how ESPN finally runs this poll right after their golden boy has his best statistical season in his career(thanks Randy Moss!). Makes you wonder how many QB polls they went through to finally get one that favored their goldenboy. Things that make you go hmmmmmmm.
 
yes and next year they'll do a poll and it will be whatever QB had the best season that year.

Funny how ESPN finally runs this poll right after their golden boy has his best statistical season in his career(thanks Randy Moss!). Makes you wonder how many QB polls they went through to finally get one that favored their goldenboy. Things that make you go hmmmmmmm.



22 coaches, damn thats alot...22!!!! Oh and sorry no other polls were taken before this was the first one. So your best excuse was, they took the poll after brady had a good year?? Is that really all you have to say on this?
 
22 coaches, damn thats alot...22!!!! Oh and sorry no other polls were taken before this was the first one. So your best excuse was, they took the poll after brady had a good year?? Is that really all you have to say on this?


Yes, thats how polls work. It's a "what have you done for me lately?" thing.

Just like how weak-minded Liberals make decisions. They look at the polls and then take a stand, much like when the war in Iraq was looking grim they were all about cutting and running with an immediate withdraw. Now that it looks as if we are succeeding, they do an about face and now are saying, "Well, it'll be a gradual withdraw".

Next year, if Manning throws for 51 TD's he'll be the new "coaches choice" as he has been for past 6 years.
 
Ahh, so ESPN polls are no good in this example, but they are a shining example of truth in your cheaters thread from yesterday.

Got it. :thumb:
 
Ahh, so ESPN polls are no good in this example, but they are a shining example of truth in your cheaters thread from yesterday.

Got it. :thumb:


Well, eh, THAT poll was a nation, yeah, a NATION wide poll so it carries a lil' more weight.

Yeah, thats the ticket!;)
 
Well, eh, THAT poll was a nation, yeah, a NATION wide poll so it carries a lil' more weight.

Yeah, thats the ticket!;)


ROFL The fans carry more weight than the coaches ROFL

No wonder the Colts always are playing catch-up with the Pats ROFL
 
Yes, thats how polls work. It's a "what have you done for me lately?" thing.

Just like how weak-minded Liberals make decisions. They look at the polls and then take a stand, much like when the war in Iraq was looking grim they were all about cutting and running with an immediate withdraw. Now that it looks as if we are succeeding, they do an about face and now are saying, "Well, it'll be a gradual withdraw".

Next year, if Manning throws for 51 TD's he'll be the new "coaches choice" as he has been for past 6 years.

And you're a pissy little child who doesn't have the balls to don a uniform but you're willing to send my brothers over there to do what you won't. Instead, you pay lip service and tell them how brave they are while you pretend you're strong because you can put people into harm's way without a second thought. That's my definition of a coward right there.

At least anti-war people stand for something that they believe in even if I don't agree with them. You believe in something you won't stand for and pretend that you're a patriot. That makes you a coward in my book and not worthy of wearing the name American.
 
Yes, thats how polls work. It's a "what have you done for me lately?" thing.

Just like how weak-minded Liberals make decisions. They look at the polls and then take a stand, much like when the war in Iraq was looking grim they were all about cutting and running with an immediate withdraw. Now that it looks as if we are succeeding, they do an about face and now are saying, "Well, it'll be a gradual withdraw".

Next year, if Manning throws for 51 TD's he'll be the new "coaches choice" as he has been for past 6 years.



Do you have a coaches poll for the last 6 years stating manning was the favorite? No, since this was the first year it was done. How did this become political?:blink:
 
And you're a pissy little child who doesn't have the balls to don a uniform but you're willing to send my brothers over there to do what you won't. Instead, you pay lip service and tell them how brave they are while you pretend you're strong because you can put people into harm's way without a second thought. That's my definition of a coward right there.

At least anti-war people stand for something that they believe in even if I don't agree with them. You believe in something you won't stand for and pretend that you're a patriot. That makes you a coward in my book and not worthy of wearing the name American.

In typical spinless liberal fashion you resort to labeling and name calling when you're confronted with the realty of the wacky left. The weak minded liberals stand for nothing, or whatever the polls tell them to stand for. As much of a mistake as it was to go into Iraq to begin with, it'd be a catastrophe to run away and leave that country to terrorists and Iran to control.

How do know I haven't served this great country? You don't.

What is it with liberals that when things get a little tough they want to run away? Cowardice, I say.
 
In typical spinless liberal fashion you resort to labeling and name calling when you're confronted with the realty of the wacky left. The weak minded liberals stand for nothing, or whatever the polls tell them to stand for. As much of a mistake as it was to go into Iraq to begin with, it'd be a catastrophe to run away and leave that country to terrorists and Iran to control.

How do know I haven't served this great country? You don't.

What is it with liberals that when things get a little tough they want to run away? Cowardice, I say.


First, I'm not a liberal poser and second, if you have to word your question about serving like that, you didn't. Third, you're the lowest form of citizen there is. You're one who won't fight but will tell others how to fight. You're just a POS in my book. You've never stepped up to the plate to take a swing so calling someone a coward is exactly what you see when you look in the mirror. I call'em like I see em and I see a coward who won't do what he says he believes. People like you don't have any respect from guys who served just because you wave a flag and talk about war. You cower and hide at the thought of putting yourself on the line and when we hear crap flying from the mouths of people of your ilk, it turns our stomach. You just don't realize the distain we have for guys like you. I respect the opinions of those who served regardless of their opinions and I respect those who believe what they preach and that includes doves. What I don't respect is a chicken hawk who pretends to be a patriot but can't seem to find the courage of his convictions.
 
Now that it looks as if we are succeeding, they do an about face and now are saying, "Well, it'll be a gradual withdraw".

It does?

He Dashoe, if you know what the goals in Iraq are, would you please share them with me...I have been waiting 7 years for the truth out of your republican president.
 
IAs much of a mistake as it was to go into Iraq to begin with, it'd be a catastrophe to run away and leave that country to terrorists and Iran to control.

Sir, your forming an opinion based on what? Terrorist have never controlled Iraq. What makes you think that every country in the world won't tell Iran that it cannot have Iraq? Are you insane. Do you really think the UN will allow Iran to just walk on in to Iraq? You are a moron if you do think that...You definitely have drank the kool aid...Turn off Rush and Levine, and develop your own opinion.
 
Sir, your forming an opinion based on what? Terrorist have never controlled Iraq. What makes you think that every country in the world won't tell Iran that it cannot have Iraq? Are you insane. Do you really think the UN will allow Iran to just walk on in to Iraq? You are a moron if you do think that...You definitely have drank the kool aid...Turn off Rush and Levine, and develop your own opinion.

I have a question for you Dawson,

Do you really think that the UN has any relevance left when it comes to war and enforcing their own sanctions on "rogue" countries?

I'm a conservative (90% of the time), and I think we should just pull out now. It's going to be a mess when our forces pull out, so what's the difference when it happens. I'm still trying to figure out what the "win" scenario is over there too.
 
Yes, thats how polls work. It's a "what have you done for me lately?" thing.

Just like how weak-minded Liberals make decisions. They look at the polls and then take a stand, much like when the war in Iraq was looking grim they were all about cutting and running with an immediate withdraw. Now that it looks as if we are succeeding, they do an about face and now are saying, "Well, it'll be a gradual withdraw".

Next year, if Manning throws for 51 TD's he'll be the new "coaches choice" as he has been for past 6 years.

This wasn't a popularity voting contest like most "nation" polls. This was a poll for NFL coaches.

I'd think they're smart enough to realize that last year was not Brady's average year. They're a little more knowledgable about these things than you.
 
I have a question for you Dawson,

Do you really think that the UN has any relevance left when it comes to war and enforcing their own sanctions on "rogue" countries?

I'm a conservative (90% of the time), and I think we should just pull out now. It's going to be a mess when our forces pull out, so what's the difference when it happens. I'm still trying to figure out what the "win" scenario is over there too.

I totally agree Rhody. Yesterday, today, tomorrow, doesn't matter. We screwed up....Actually I did not vote for Bush. I don't like to feel like I am responsible for 90,000+ dead Iraqi's.

Yes, I do think the UN has relevance. I don't think they did much about things when the US declared war because they knew that America does not take terrorist attacks lightly. I think the UN would have approved war, but not until some other options and the full support of other countries were taken into account. If Iran decides to take over Iraq without the consent of the UN, the world will fight Iran, no doubt. The conservatives didn't realize this the first time when King Bush used 9/11 & WMD to invade Iraq.

Trust me, I don't think it was a bad idea that Saddam was removed....but I don't think 90,000+ innocent people should have died because of it. IMHO Bush should be tried for war crimes including genocide.
 
I totally agree Rhody. Yesterday, today, tomorrow, doesn't matter. We screwed up....Actually I did not vote for Bush. I don't like to feel like I am responsible for 90,000+ dead Iraqi's.

Yes, I do think the UN has relevance. I don't think they did much about things when the US declared war because they knew that America does not take terrorist attacks lightly. I think the UN would have approved war, but not until some other options and the full support of other countries were taken into account. If Iran decides to take over Iraq without the consent of the UN, the world will fight Iran, no doubt. The conservatives didn't realize this the first time when King Bush used 9/11 & WMD to invade Iraq.

Trust me, I don't think it was a bad idea that Saddam was removed....but I don't think 90,000+ innocent people should have died because of it. IMHO Bush should be tried for war crimes including genocide.


All these years Bush has fooled himself into thinking that the rest of the world wants democracy. Well, maybe they do, but they don't want it jammed down their throats either. I work with a few guys of Middle-Eastern descent and they are convinced that democracy will never work in the countries that are not democratic yet in the Middle East.
 
All these years Bush has fooled himself into thinking that the rest of the world wants democracy. Well, maybe they do, but they don't want it jammed down their throats either. I work with a few guys of Middle-Eastern descent and they are convinced that democracy will never work in the countries that are not democratic yet in the Middle East.

That is there choice. It is not up to the GOP or any American to tell them otherwise. As we are a free country, other countries have the freedom to make their own decisions.

The conclusion being, how would you like a communist country coming into America and killing 90,000 people and informing the lucky ones that are alive that freedom does not exist anymore. Communism does work in some countries - just like democracy works in some countries.

Either way, we have done nothing much made good people into terrorist. We have countries that hate us. We have 90,000+ people who lost family members who hate us....and guess what, when the national reserve decides to collect on us, they will hate us too...and then other countries will hate us because our spending is going to have to stop.
 
It does?

He Dashoe, if you know what the goals in Iraq are, would you please share them with me...I have been waiting 7 years for the truth out of your republican president.

The goal in Iraq is to leave it with some semblence of security and peace.

The ability for the Iraqi government to run their country without having to worry about Iran arming, training, and financing terrorists to tear them apart.

The goal in Iraq is to clean up the mess we created and not run away from our responsibilities.

Also, I never voted for Bush in either election and I think he is one of the worst Presidents this country has ever had. Just because I don't fall for the wacky-lefts propaganda doesn't mean I am a Republican or a Bush supporter. I am neither.
 
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