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I agree Durant is 33, and has little upside left. Brown is 25 and has just started to hit his stride. It would be a bad trade off.
Durant has little upside left? Are you high? check out last years stats
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Durant has little upside left? Are you high? check out last years stats
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So you seemed confuse by what I said. At no time did I say he was washed up. I pointed out that at 33 and following a number of injuries most recently an achilles injury he has a more limited number of productive years left than Brown at 25 does.
 
I think Danny Ainge, on the whole, was a really good GM. If there was an area where I disagreed with him it was his seeming obsession with collecting draft picks. It seems Brad's philosophy is more rooted in viewing draft picks as currency to be used in obtaining established talent and that's a line of thinking that is consistent with mine.
 
I think Danny Ainge, on the whole, was a really good GM. If there was an area where I disagreed with him it was his seeming obsession with collecting draft picks. It seems Brad's philosophy is more rooted in viewing draft picks as currency to be used in obtaining established talent and that's a line of thinking that is consistent with mine.
It's completely different stage of team building.
When Ainge was 'collecting draft picks', he had a team of aging stars (all 35+), and not much in the pipeline because of the trades used to get them, so they had to try to build through the draft.

When your stars are all 25 and under, adding established players to compliment them makes perfect sense, because you're going to be drafting in the 20s, and your picks are pretty useless.

Only Horford and Derrick White were players that Ainge didn't draft that were in the rotation.

Funny how the Celtics had 'The Process' without tanking for 6 years in a row like the 76ers.
 
So you seemed confuse by what I said. At no time did I say he was washed up. I pointed out that at 33 and following a number of injuries most recently an achilles injury he has a more limited number of productive years left than Brown at 25 does.
I'm not confused at all. I'm just reacting to what you said. You said he had little upside left. That's laughable. If you want to change what you said. That's fine. Brown has more productive years left. But who cares if he only plays for the Celtics for two more years. There's no guarantee he is with the team when his current deal is up in two years. Durant has 4 years left on his deal. And he is a much better player.
 
I'm not confused at all. I'm just reacting to what you said. You said he had little upside left. That's laughable. If you want to change what you said. That's fine. Brown has more productive years left. But who cares if he only plays for the Celtics for two more years. There's no guarantee he is with the team when his current deal is up in two years. Durant has 4 years left on his deal. And he is a much better player.
He's also had achilles tear which caused him to miss all of 2020, and a hamstring injury which caused him to miss half of 2021, in the last 3 seasons. It's great Durant has 4 years left on his contract, but from ages 33-37, not only will his skills decline to some degree over that time, but he's far more susceptible to long-term injury with age.

Durant at his peak was an all-time great player, but I'm not so sure the trade-off with Durant's declining production and health, along with Brown's still-increasing production is a good one.
 
He's also had achilles tear which caused him to miss all of 2020, and a hamstring injury which caused him to miss half of 2021, in the last 3 seasons. It's great Durant has 4 years left on his contract, but from ages 33-37, not only will his skills decline to some degree over that time, but he's far more susceptible to long-term injury with age.

Durant at his peak was an all-time great player, but I'm not so sure the trade-off with Durant's declining production and health, along with Brown's still-increasing production is a good one.
I agree. Injuries are always a concern with an aging player. But I don't see significant decline happening to Durants skills from 33 to 37. Barring injury. He's got plenty of tread left on his tires. horford is still playing well at his age. Even if they only get 2 or 3 good years out of durant. Its worth it. Because he significantly increases the chances, the team hangs a banner or two.
 
I agree. Injuries are always a concern with an aging player. But I don't see significant decline happening to Durants skills from 33 to 37. Barring injury. He's got plenty of tread left on his tires. horford is still playing well at his age. Even if they only get 2 or 3 good years out of durant. Its worth it. Because he significantly increases the chances, the team hangs a banner or two.
On this we will have to agree to disagree. I just don't see that oft injured 33 year old player being a better choice.
 
He's also had achilles tear which caused him to miss all of 2020, and a hamstring injury which caused him to miss half of 2021, in the last 3 seasons. It's great Durant has 4 years left on his contract, but from ages 33-37, not only will his skills decline to some degree over that time, but he's far more susceptible to long-term injury with age.

Durant at his peak was an all-time great player, but I'm not so sure the trade-off with Durant's declining production and health, along with Brown's still-increasing production is a good one.
The only way this trade makes sense is if you can find a way to add KD without disrupting your current chemistry. The man has more than a couple big time performances on the big stage left in him. Love to see it happen but I don't see it in a way that I'm going to like if it does.
 
He'd be tired of being here after 2 years and be looking for another move. He's a great player, but I think he's also a dink. No thanks. He's Kyrie Light...
That's the best argument for not making the trade. i think brown is gone in 2 years. And KD is a much better player. Give me the 2 years of KD instead of 2 years of brown. People forget. Brown has injury concerns too. He missed time this year because of his messed up knee. And he's only 24 or 25.
 
Yet Brown at times was much better than Tatum in the playoffs. Not sure why you want to get rid of him so easily.


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Because I think he's overrated. And they should trade him. While his value is high. And he's outta here in 2 years.
 
Where there's smoke, there's fire. Ship him out.
Brown is the starting point for any deal for Durant, and they mention such a deal including Smart/Grant Williams. I wouldn't be inclined to trade Brown for Durant straight up. Durant is still an excellent player, but has built up an injury resume and is a mobile big man on the wrong side of 30.

Pass. Last year all we heard was that Brown and Tatum couldn't play together.
 
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