Word on Newton is positive as well. He was working on his mechanics in the off season and Mike Reiss stated that the feedback he is getting from players is they've noticed the difference.Well, I liked Mac Jones almost from the beginning, and the more I've read and seen about him since the draft the better I like the guy. i'd like to modify the above prediction. tough with only a3 preseasson games, but I do think there's an excellent chance he'll start the season.
I would rather see Jones play all 17 games and miss the playoffs and watch him progress as a QB and a passer than another year of Newton. Jones is supposed to be the most NFL ready QB of all the first round selections and we have built a very friendly rookie QB offense. I just hope Bill is not so stubborn when it comes to Cam that we have to suffer all year with him. You are right. After 10 years, nothing is going to get marginally better at this point. Plus, I am really excited to see Jones play and watch him dissect the defenses.I can see why he's working on mechanics now I mean, he's only been in the league for 10 seasons... They've noticed the difference between shitty and sucky? Well hell, that is an improvement
That's a daft statement, Of course, things can get marginally better. Pro sportsmen redefine themselves all the time, they change from year to year. Golfers deconstruct their swings and build them up from scratch in some cases. QBs often change personal coaches over time, working with new people on their throwing mechanics.I would rather see Jones play all 17 games and miss the playoffs and watch him progress as a QB and a passer than another year of Newton. Jones is supposed to be the most NFL ready QB of all the first round selections and we have built a very friendly rookie QB offense. I just hope Bill is not so stubborn when it comes to Cam that we have to suffer all year with him. You are right. After 10 years, nothing is going to get marginally better at this point. Plus, I am really excited to see Jones play and watch him dissect the defenses.
You are right. I need patience. LOLThat's a daft statement, Of course, things can get marginally better. Pro sportsmen redefine themselves all the time, they change from year to year. Golfers deconstruct their swings and build them up from scratch in some cases. QBs often change personal coaches over time, working with new people on their throwing mechanics.
Let's just wait and see how he pans out. It's stupid to judge his upcoming season now, before a regular-season snap has even been taken.
I would rather see Jones play all 17 games and miss the playoffs and watch him progress as a QB and a passer than another year of Newton. Jones is supposed to be the most NFL ready QB of all the first round selections and we have built a very friendly rookie QB offense. I just hope Bill is not so stubborn when it comes to Cam that we have to suffer all year with him. You are right. After 10 years, nothing is going to get marginally better at this point. Plus, I am really excited to see Jones play and watch him dissect the defenses.
Where do you find this stuff? LOL
Where do you find this stuff? LOL
The playbook & system. Have never been easy on Rookies. I don't know where you got that information. Just look at brissett starts as RookieI would rather see Jones play all 17 games and miss the playoffs and watch him progress as a QB and a passer than another year of Newton. Jones is supposed to be the most NFL ready QB of all the first round selections and we have built a very friendly rookie QB offense. I just hope Bill is not so stubborn when it comes to Cam that we have to suffer all year with him. You are right. After 10 years, nothing is going to get marginally better at this point. Plus, I am really excited to see Jones play and watch him dissect the defenses.
There have been plenty of rookies that have shined with the Patriots over the years - Glenn, Robert Edwards, Gronk/Hernandez, Hightower, McCourty, etc. I thought Brissett looked pretty darn good as a rookie and we should have never traded him to the Colts BUT I digress.The playbook & system. Have never been easy on Rookies. I don't know where you got that information. Just look at brissett starts as Rookie
Thanks, whoever revived this thread. It was fun to go back and read the thread from the beginning, see the intitial reactions and see how they changed with time.
Good question. Getting a sense of the trend is easier to see than explain. Plus my memory is clouded by discussion of Mac in other, later, threads.You're welcome! What did you learn? Whose initial reactions changed the most? How did they change?
Really great post. This is a pretty good summation of the normal fan I think. We get excited or are down at the signing of a new player. Then we get time to know him and we start to change our opinion one way or the other. For me, I desperately wanted us to take Fields who by every report is killing it in Chicago. That being said, I like Jones persona a lot and also his traits even if I think having a more explosive QB would be better in today's league. Mostly, I just don't want to see Cam again under center. I really do hope Jones leaves him in the dust during TC.Good question. Getting a sense of the trend is easier to see than explain. Plus my memory is clouded by discussion of Mac in other, later, threads.
I think the reactions at first were euphoric as those of us who wanted him (mostly) all along chimed in. The Mac Jones lovers were on pins and neeedles as the draft went on, and BB didn't make any moves. So when it came to 15 we were ready to explode.
Then it calmed down quickly. I, who had wanted him so badly, was the first to say that I doubted he would start before week 11 or 12. I don't remember that but that's the thing about archives
Oothers also said much the same, then came pages and pages of Jones can''t run, he's not athletic, he's a product of Saban's system and was made by the WRs, and rebuttals.
The usual. Some saw a lot of Brady's traits in him, other pointed out that he hasn't thown and NFL pass yet and fon't compare a rookie draftee to Brady, Montana, etc, and that we drafted the perfect QB for a bygone NFL era.
Then by OTAs, we were mostly all pretty much onboard with him and excited, especially as more highlight videos came out.
I think me and Mazz changed the most. I was ready to annoint him on May 1 to start week one. Then I wanted to wait and not 'ruin' him. Now I'm middle of the road, kind of In BB We Trust. Mazz was hardest on him from the get-go, and maintained that he had a weak arm and was drafted in the right place (last of the top 5), but softened to he might do well IF he developed arm strength. Bear in mind that this thread only lasted a week before discussinon moved to OTA, etc threads, and Mazz is now much more onboard and I'm a raving homer lunatic again.
Looking back, I don't see much about the Jets moving up in front of us. I think they saved us, and that they pre-empted the Vikes and Saints from be able to slide in and nab Jones right out from under us.
If I'm honest, I was underwhelmed by him going into the draft. That was based on stuff I'd read.Thanks, whoever revived this thread. It was fun to go back and read the thread from the beginning, see the intitial reactions and see how they changed with time.