Those of us older than 12 will recall they tried to install a version of this offense back in the BOB days, with little success and they ended up scrapping it pretty early on. Some of that was the quarterback's resistance to it, if I remember correctly. But we'll see how it goes.As I understand the SHannahans'system, it's heavily dependent on Oling blocking. The Oline has been getting trashed early in tc, and it might be (besides Barmore) because our OLinesmen have been in the system in the system for a long time and now are learning new blocking schemes and new terminology. The instinctive working-as-one that a good Oline performs will not arrive anytime soon. The OL will learn at different rates, and it will mess up coordination. I would not expect it to run smoothly even at the start of the season, and I'm not surprised that highly intelligent guys like Mac Jones will get frustrated by the slow rate of others' progress.
I found this article on the difficulty of installing Shanny's system. You are spot on with the Oline blocking. Here is a snippet. Let's hope it does not take years to implement but even it does I love the sea change to something new. This is the offense that is the most successful in the league. Hopefully the Oline can figure it out in time. Wish the Pats still had Scar.As I understand the SHannahans'system, it's heavily dependent on Oling blocking. The Oline has been getting trashed early in tc, and it might be (besides Barmore) because our OLinesmen have been in the system in the system for a long time and now are learning new blocking schemes and new terminology. The instinctive working-as-one that a good Oline performs will not arrive anytime soon. The OL will learn at different rates, and it will mess up coordination. I would not expect it to run smoothly even at the start of the season, and I'm not surprised that highly intelligent guys like Mac Jones will get frustrated by the slow rate of others' progress.
Impossible. He's skinny and sucks.Mike Reiss is saying Tyquan Thronton is winning a lot of new fans at TC.
Must be a different guy. He's too skinny and has small hands.Mike Reiss is saying Tyquan Thronton is winning a lot of new fans at TC.
I'm confused. I thought the cutting techniques in the Oline play had been outlawed????I found this article on the difficulty of installing Shanny's system. You are spot on with the Oline blocking. Here is a snippet. Let's hope it does not take years to implement but even it does I love the sea change to something new. This is the offense that is the most successful in the league. Hopefully the Oline can figure it out in time. Wish the Pats still had Scar.
The difference with Shanahan’s offense and its various clones is that it’s extraordinarily difficult to teach, especially up front, because, for offensive linemen, most of the required movements are unique to this scheme. Blocking schemes require specific personnel that exclude a lot of standard, lumbering type linemen. Some of the most critical blocks cannot be practiced, because the backside “cutting” techniques, which ask an offensive lineman to dive at the turf, tripping a chasing defender at the hips, are too dangerous to try out on fellow teammates who could easily sustain lower body injuries.
So, having the playbook and the play-caller is one thing. Having the person, or people, to turn some chemically doctored brown swill into whiskey? That’s a different issue altogether, leaving some to wonder whether there’s a coaching crisis on our hands, or just a bunch of premature spirits waiting to ripen.
“It’s gonna take you years, it’s not going to happen overnight,” Mike Shanahan told Sports Illustrated recently from his vacation spot in Cabo. “You gotta believe in it. You gotta be a product of the environment. It’s gonna take time.”
“I don’t care if you’re the offensive line coach or the tight end coach, you need to understand all phases of the running game,” Mike Shanahan says. “There’s different types of defenses you’re facing every week, and so the scheme has to change. Read defenses, penetrating defenses, eight- and seven-man fronts. There’s lots of different directions you have to go.
“But if you really believe in the outside zone, if you can use those techniques in the running game successfully, you can adjust against all those defenses. It starts on a day-to-day basis, believing in what you’re doing.”
Installing the NFL’s Trendiest Offense Is Harder Than You Think
More and more teams are looking to replicate the “Shanahan” offense. But they may not realize what it requires: teachers.www.si.com
Good point. This article was from 2021 so it is interesting that they talk about it. I think you can cut as long as you are facing the player and not coming at him from the side or behind. But I could be wrong. I will look it up.I'm confused. I thought the cutting techniques in the Oline play had been outlawed????
Nice articles. I hadn't heard of musketfire so I looked around the site. Article posted last night says the Pats should move on from Mac Jones (potentially the next Kirk Cousins) and sign Lamar Jackson who can run the Pats style of offense better than Jones. This is what happens when weed is legalized.How good has Barmore been in TC?
He pancaked Onwenu
Christian Barmore continues to impress at Patriots training camp
Despite the overall dominance of the Patriots' defense in training camp so far, Christian Barmore's performance has continued to stand out.musketfire.com
and if 1 article isn't enough here's a 2nd one.
Christian Barmore's Blunt Confidence Is Warranted -- And Kinda Funny
Christian Barmore has been a dominant force during New England Patriots training camp and his confidence appears to be growing.nesn.com
here's a 3rd; this one is by Lazar
Christian Barmore Making Strides Towards a Big Second Season for Patriots
Barmore spent the offseason working on his conditioning to play a larger role this season.www.patriots.com
AFAIK cut blocks by the OLine are legal as long as:I'm confused. I thought the cutting techniques in the Oline play had been outlawed????
Nice articles. I hadn't heard of musketfire so I looked around the site. Article posted last night says the Pats should move on from Mac Jones (potentially the next Kirk Cousins) and sign Lamar Jackson who can run the Pats style of offense better than Jones. This is what happens when weed is legalized.
But on Barmore, maybe the Pats O isn't as bad as it appears. If he behaves this way during the season, I can handle Felger, Trenni, and Mazz² yapping about our horrible offense.
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I keep telling people that Tyquan isn't going to need a redshirt year like a lot of our rookies.
He's going to help our offense just by stepping on the field and won't need tons of seasoning to earn reps because Ds will have
to pay special attention to those wheels and his already good release off the line.
Finally we have somebody who is really, really fast and I think he's going to look comfortable in the NFL faster than most people think. He is the
guy that is going to help the rest of the WR crew draw more favorable matchups and soon.
I’m a believer in Thornton, but I hope he gets a year to add strength and a few pounds before going across the middle on a regular basis.
Reports sound more positive than they did for Bethel Johnson. Which is good, because I remember saying something pretty similar to this when Bethel was a rookie.I keep telling people that Tyquan isn't going to need a redshirt year like a lot of our rookies.
He's going to help our offense just by stepping on the field and won't need tons of seasoning to earn reps because Ds will have
to pay special attention to those wheels and his already good release off the line.
Finally we have somebody who is really, really fast and I think he's going to look comfortable in the NFL faster than most people think. He is the
guy that is going to help the rest of the WR crew draw more favorable matchups and soon.