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The New England Patriots are one of three teams reportedly scheduled to meet with Florida State University kicker Ryan Fitzgerald. The team will hold a private workout for the Seminoles' specialist, per The Draft Network’s Justin Melo.

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Patriots hosting private workout for First-Team All-American kicker

The New England Patriots are reportedly hosting Florida State All-American kicker Ryan Fitzgerald for a private workout.
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Big/Sky/Fly said:
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I have lots of personal comments on his rankings of players for the Pats
Tet McM is way too high. I look at him as a really good college player who won't translate as well in the NFL. He's almost but not quite there in many categories to me.
Switch Tyler Warren ahead of Jeanty but that depends on current roster
Luther Burden and Matthew Golden are too high for my taste. Move them down 5 spots. Better yet, take Golden off the top 50 list for the Pats.
Move Egbuka up to Burden's spot.

After the 3rd round, it doesn't really matter to me who they draft. The best drafting teams get "lucky" in the 2nd half of the draft with a player or 2 but overall
the players who make your team are gone by then. This year, however, Kicker has some interest. Pats are meeting with Fitzgerald today.
 
I was just looking at the 2014 draft. Three OTs were taken ahead of the 13th pick, Aaron Donald.

I think there's a tendency to overdraft offensive tackles, and undervalue defensive linemen. I really don't want the team to use the #4 pick on an OT, especially in the 2025 draft class.

If Carter and Hunter aren't there and they can't trade out of the pick, then I hope they identify a diamond-in-the-rough player with Aaron Donald potential.

Even if it's a swing and miss, it's a better strategy than drafting a JAG OT.
 
WR prospect from LSU Keryn Lacy was involved in a car accident which was his fault. Someone died in that accident which took place a month or so ago.
It was just reported that Lacy committed suicide.
What an awful story.
 
TipRoast said:
I was just looking at the 2014 draft. Three OTs were taken ahead of the 13th pick, Aaron Donald.

I think there's a tendency to overdraft offensive tackles, and undervalue defensive linemen. I really don't want the team to use the #4 pick on an OT, especially in the 2025 draft class.

If Carter and Hunter aren't there and they can't trade out of the pick, then I hope they identify a diamond-in-the-rough player with Aaron Donald potential.

Even if it's a swing and miss, it's a better strategy than drafting a JAG OT.
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Spot on. I’m gonna puke if they burn the fourth pick on Will Campbell. Arm length aside I don’t see him as that much better than guys who will go at the end of the first.
If Hunter and Carter are gone and a trade back can’t be managed I’d advocate for Jalon Walker.
With him that’s a defense that’s holding teams to 21 or less, and they can find a LT good enough to start in the second.
Jeanty at least has a chance to be great. I wouldn’t like it but I’d prefer him or even Warren to Campbell.
They need to take the best football player on the board. Walker, Jeanty, and Warren all have higher upside than Campbell.
 
rivshark86 said:
Spot on. I’m gonna puke if they burn the fourth pick on Will Campbell. Arm length aside I don’t see him as that much better than guys who will go at the end of the first.
If Hunter and Carter are gone and a trade back can’t be managed I’d advocate for Jalon Walker.
With him that’s a defense that’s holding teams to 21 or less, and they can find a LT good enough to start in the second.
Jeanty at least has a chance to be great. I wouldn’t like it but I’d prefer him or even Warren to Campbell.
They need to take the best football player on the board. Walker, Jeanty, and Warren all have higher upside than Campbell.
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I think that Campbell is not a Vrable guy. He isn't much in the run game. And considering him for a guard as a fallback plan would be a poor plan.
 
I hate to bring up fantasy football but I’ve listened to Thor Nystorm for years in fantasy football weekly.
The guy has some of the best analysis in the business. He’s almost always right, and his record goes back years. He was totally right on his Polk and Baker predictions.

He straight up says Campbell is a guard and there’s 30 years of stats that back it up, and the Pats would be foolish to take him at 4.
I sure hope the Campbell love is misdirection. He is not an NFL left tackle.

And even if he happens to be an average starter, a pass rusher is more important. Jalon Walker is going to kick ass for a team for a long long time. If Carter and Hunter are gone and they can’t trade back he’s the best pick.
 
I would be happy to trade down to get another second-round pick this year. Selecting Penn State's Warren and Oregon's Connelly Jr. would be a great outcome.
 
rivshark86 said:
I hate to bring up fantasy football but I’ve listened to Thor Nystorm for years in fantasy football weekly.
The guy has some of the best analysis in the business. He’s almost always right, and his record goes back years. He was totally right on his Polk and Baker predictions.

He straight up says Campbell is a guard and there’s 30 years of stats that back it up, and the Pats would be foolish to take him at 4.
I sure hope the Campbell love is misdirection. He is not an NFL left tackle.

And even if he happens to be an average starter, a pass rusher is more important. Jalon Walker is going to kick ass for a team for a long long time. If Carter and Hunter are gone and they can’t trade back he’s the best pick.
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A pass rusher is more important than keeping Maye upright and without the jitters?
 
Flagg the Wanderer said:
A pass rusher is more important than keeping Maye upright and without the jitters?
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The Oline has had improvements. Morgan Moses is a legit RT. It will let Michael O slide back to guard. Center is solid enough with Bradbury. That’s 3 out of five spots that are much better. Strange was way over drafted, but hopefully will be able to start. Wallace hopefully will improve, and at least be good depth.
Finding a LT is important but it’s not worth forcing the issue. This draft has great defensive players at the top of the first. The top LT options aren’t all that different, and with good coaching some lower tier LTs have better upside than Campbell.
Take the best player at 4 or trade back. The best player is not Campbell.
 
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TipRoast said:
I was just looking at the 2014 draft. Three OTs were taken ahead of the 13th pick, Aaron Donald.

I think there's a tendency to overdraft offensive tackles, and undervalue defensive linemen. I really don't want the team to use the #4 pick on an OT, especially in the 2025 draft class.

If Carter and Hunter aren't there and they can't trade out of the pick, then I hope they identify a diamond-in-the-rough player with Aaron Donald potential.

Even if it's a swing and miss, it's a better strategy than drafting a JAG OT.
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No argument from me.
Let all teams behind them know they're open to move back if Hunter or Carter aren't there.
 
This has probably been mentioned before, but Scar has said that the arm lenght of an OLT is not an issue.
I'm not saying that we should draft one at 4. I'd like to move down a few slots.
If Hunter is there at 4, it would be team malpractice not to take him. I'm not completely sold on him but I can't ignore that he is rated 1 or 2 on just about every board.
I don't feel that way with Carter. After watching him play several games, I think he's a mid 1st round player. I think he's benefiting from Parsons and he is not as good as Parsons.
 
chevss454 said:
Look up your binky to see if the Pats have met with him

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Patriots draft meetings tracker: Workouts, interviews, visits, and more

NFL Draft season is underway, and the Patriots will be quite busy.
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Literally none of my binkys :(

Interesting they met with Conerly and Eresery multiple times though. (And Ozzy Trapillo too, but the local ones are just no-brainers to go look at). That would indicate to me they're covering their bases, getting OT by pick 38 at the worst.
 
TipRoast said:
I was just looking at the 2014 draft. Three OTs were taken ahead of the 13th pick, Aaron Donald.
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In fairness, you can do this most any year with someone who dropped and ended up being a great player and most any position.
TipRoast said:
I think there's a tendency to overdraft offensive tackles, and undervalue defensive linemen. I really don't want the team to use the #4 pick on an OT, especially in the 2025 draft class.
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People overdraft OTs because they're critical and incredibly rare, and you often need to take a couple swings at it.
TipRoast said:
If Carter and Hunter aren't there and they can't trade out of the pick, then I hope they identify a diamond-in-the-rough player with Aaron Donald potential.

Even if it's a swing and miss, it's a better strategy than drafting a JAG OT.
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A JAG OT would be a massive upgrade over what we have, and having something there worth having is important. I was as big a backer as anyone that we could have a functional OL with a hole at LT, but that's not our only hole. We don't know what we have at LG, and our new C has a problem pass blocking.

I'm all about trading down, but I don't think Campbell is a JAG. I think he walks in and is a top 15 LT from day 1. I don't think he's ever going to be top 3, but I expect he's in the top 10 range for a long time. I'm far from the only one who thinks that, BTW. I'm most drafts, that's arguably not worth the #4 overall. In this draft, I think it is.


View: https://youtu.be/ZCo9SFen7pY?si=YpYTGxg27sAuUyzb


Will Campbell discussion is about 24m in.
 
Flagg the Wanderer said:
I'm all about trading down, but I don't think Campbell is a JAG. I think he walks in and is a top 15 LT from day 1. I don't think he's ever going to be top 3, but I expect he's in the top 10 range for a long time. I'm far from the only one who thinks that, BTW. I'm most drafts, that's arguably not worth the #4 overall. In this draft, I think it is.
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If the Patriots were in any other division, I'd agree.
Campbell struggles against long pass rushers (6'4"+), and that's evident on every piece of tape I've seen on him.
It just so happens, every team in the Patriots division has at least two of those types of pass rushers now, as their primary guys. I don't know if that's unique, or that's NFL-wide, I haven't dove that deep past the AFC East, but I think that would affect his 'top-15' status, just in the division games.

Is it still better than Verdarian Lowe? yes. Is it worth burning #4 overall on? I don't really think so.
 
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