2025 NEP Draft Prospects

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chevss454 said:
No. I wouldn't do that. 4 should bring a really good talent, much better than the 30th pick. There are probably only 15ish+/- true 1st round picks in this draft.
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I agree, generally speaking I'm a fan of sticking and taking BPA, but there is always people taking about trading back, and once you trade outside of the top 10, I think you are better off trading way back and picking up as much capital as possible.... I think they guy at 11 and 40 aren't going to be that different talents.
 
TommyD420 said:
I don't really want extra picks this year. In future years, sure.
Also, why are you trying to hand the Bills the division for 5 more years? That's a quarter for a dime and 2 nickels. Not nearly enough for number 4 either.
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Like I said, wrong calculator......it was only one example of a potential trade back, I'm not worried about what Buffalo does, I'm only worried about improving the Patriots...if an in division trade provided the best value, I'd do it.

How about Arizona : #4 for #16, 47, '26 1st
 
headcase said:
Like I said, wrong calculator......it was only one example of a potential trade back, I'm not worried about what Buffalo does, I'm only worried about improving the Patriots...if an in division trade provided the best value, I'd do it.

How about Arizona : #4 for #16, 47, '26 1st
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That's really still not enough, #4 is a premium haul, should be a pick this year and 2 future firsts, really to move up that much - that's why it doesn't happen very often.

Now, if you were willing to trade in the division, and there's a team that desperately needs a QB - Trade 4 for 7, 39, and next year's first to the Jets - that would work. I'd even go 4 for 7, Garrett Wilson/Ahmed Gardner and next year's 1st.
 
TommyD420 said:
That's really still not enough, #4 is a premium haul, should be a pick this year and 2 future firsts, really to move up that much - that's why it doesn't happen very often.

Now, if you were willing to trade in the division, and there's a team that desperately needs a QB - Trade 4 for 7, 39, and next year's first to the Jets - that would work. I'd even go 4 for 7, Garrett Wilson/Ahmed Gardner and next year's 1st.
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I know everyone wants the haul, but #4 really isn't a premium pick in this draft, their are likely 2 Blue Chips, and two decent prospects.....is anyone going to give up a haul for Sanders? I sure wouldn't.

The swap with Arizona I laid out is like within 50 points of even according the JJ chart. It would leave us with '25 #16… 2nds and 2 3rds to start adding talent with 5 top 100 picks.....or ammo to move around to target fewer prospects....and then an extra '26 1st.

That or another high end CB?

Now if Carter is there at 4, take him no questions; take Hunter if the team really likes, and has a plan for, him. Otherwise I'm just trying to put numbers behind the trade back idea.
 
Will they change the Patriots approach to drafting this year?
Instead of only having a List of 75 to choose from on draft day will it be 200 or so?
More options, more athletic talent at each pick,,,
 
sg14 said:
Will they change the Patriots approach to drafting this year?
Instead of only having a List of 75 to choose from on draft day will it be 200 or so?
More options, more athletic talent at each pick,,,
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At this point the entire draft: the board, the grading system, ect; has been changed over to a Green Bayish system .... will it make a difference, don't know. According to Wolf it is less about player fit, more about player ability.....to me it seems like you need both, but I guess we'll see. And how do Vrabel and Cowden fit in? We don't really know how they'll run things.... so much mystery!
 
sg14 said:
Will they change the Patriots approach to drafting this year?
Instead of only having a List of 75 to choose from on draft day will it be 200 or so?
More options, more athletic talent at each pick,,,
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Last year's approach was a massive failure, except for the selection of Maye and Milton. It was the only position they upgraded . Rookies were either manhandled or produced nothing.
 
Patriots44 said:
I hope better coaching gets something out of some of them.
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Coaching may provide improvement. They need to change their strategy and approach. How many impact players have they drafted in the past few years?
 
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king of kings said:
Coaching may provide improvement. They need to change their strategy and approach. How many impact players have they drafted in the past few years?
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Uh 2 🤷 (maybe 3 or 4 depending). Maye, gonzo, white, baramore. Milton look like he has potential .
This draft has to be a huge improvement for sure
 
I read that Scar was talking about the draft on a radio program. He said that in his opinion the Patriots should not reach for an OT at #4, unless the are convinced that the OT was going to be an All Pro for years to come. It doesn't feel as if he thinks any of the OT's fit that description.
He felt that you needed to take a guy who is a game changer at 4. He didn't say who but I got the impression that he was talking about Carter.
 
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ParanoidPatriot said:
I read that Scar was talking about the draft on a radio program. He said that in his opinion the Patriots should not reach for an OT at #4, unless the are convinced that the OT was going to be an All Pro for years to come. It doesn't feel as if he thinks any of the OT's fit that description.
He felt that you needed to rake a guy who is a game changer at 4. He didn't say who but I got the impression that he was talking about Carter.
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Right on. If the pats are set on going OT in the first a trade back needs to happen. Good options will be available in the mid to latter parts of the round.
 
headcase said:
I know everyone wants the haul, but #4 really isn't a premium pick in this draft, their are likely 2 Blue Chips, and two decent prospects.....is anyone going to give up a haul for Sanders? I sure wouldn't.

The swap with Arizona I laid out is like within 50 points of even according the JJ chart. It would leave us with '25 #16… 2nds and 2 3rds to start adding talent with 5 top 100 picks.....or ammo to move around to target fewer prospects....and then an extra '26 1st.

That or another high end CB?

Now if Carter is there at 4, take him no questions; take Hunter if the team really likes, and has a plan for, him. Otherwise I'm just trying to put numbers behind the trade back idea.
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It’s is to the right team, you can’t simply dismiss the idea because talking heads say this is a weak draft. The trade value will be the same, it’s not like the Pats are going to say oh hell it’s a weak draft so we’ll take half the normal value to trade back. The very well could be a scenario where one of the two QBs falls to 4 and someone is willing to give fair value.
 
king of kings said:
Last year's approach was a massive failure, except for the selection of Maye and Milton. It was the only position they upgraded . Rookies were either manhandled or produced nothing.
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Please, enough with the Milton bullshit. I bet you’re still expecting Cunningham to be the future. Lol
 
Grogan said:
Please, enough with the Milton bullshit. I bet you’re still expecting Cunningham to be the future. Lol
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Unless you're upset, people are talking about the potential draft picks we can get from him.He is a significant upgrade over the previous backup quarterbacks. He had an impressive preseason and played well against the Bills. No one thinks he is the Patriots' future quarterback :coffee:
 
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Everyone loves the backup QB……..
Until he plays more than 2 games.

That Bills game was a preseason game.

Now I’m not advocating for trading Milton. Maye has a disturbing habit of leading with his head. But if a team was offering a 3rd round pick? That seems like a no brainer.
 
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