AJ Brown

Now that they've secured Brown, since Diggs's legal troubles are behind him it's time to give him a call. Diggs loved it here. Brown, Diggs, and Doubs, with Mack Hollins, Pop Douglas, and Kyle Williams... That would be a nice lineup, even if Boutte doesn't return.

Welcome back, JD.
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Asking for trouble with so many mouths to feed.
As is known here, I supported and lobbied for Diggs before he signed til his release. Diggs was great for the team. No one can say he wasn't and keep a straight face.
Brown is better.
Brown + Doubs + Diggs = 3 is a crowd. This young team under young Drake's leadership doesn't need the discord. Love the thought but hate the reality.
 
PFF article that shows how and where Brown will help the Pats win games. They completely skipped over how Brown was at his best on PA passes in Tenn. The Eagles don't run PA because Hurts hates being under center, something the new OC is trying to change. I believe McD will target Brown on PA passes by design. I would.

Brown dominates no matter the direction of his target. On passes over the middle of the field, he sports a 93.6 career PFF receiving grade; outside the numbers, that mark is 94.4. The same goes for any range of the field, with Brown earning at least a 91.6 receiving mark on short, intermediate and deep targets — including a ludicrous 99.4 on throws 10-plus yards downfield.

It’s clear that Brown creates separation and chunk plays no matter where he’s targeted. But let’s take things a step further to understand how he can elevate New England’s receiving corps, and offense, in greater detail.

 
PFF article that shows how and where Brown will help the Pats win games. They completely skipped over how Brown was at his best on PA passes in Tenn. The Eagles don't run PA because Hurts hates being under center, something the new OC is trying to change. I believe McD will target Brown on PA passes by design. I would.

Brown dominates no matter the direction of his target. On passes over the middle of the field, he sports a 93.6 career PFF receiving grade; outside the numbers, that mark is 94.4. The same goes for any range of the field, with Brown earning at least a 91.6 receiving mark on short, intermediate and deep targets — including a ludicrous 99.4 on throws 10-plus yards downfield.

It’s clear that Brown creates separation and chunk plays no matter where he’s targeted. But let’s take things a step further to understand how he can elevate New England’s receiving corps, and offense, in greater detail.

No one is disagreeing with that.
The argument against AJ is that “is a first round pick worth a season and a half of that production.”
And hey maybe it is. The Pats have been awful at drafting.
I’m more on Phil Perry’s side and hopeful that they can change that.
Hitting on first round picks is very important for sustained success.
 
No one is disagreeing with that.
The argument against AJ is that “is a first round pick worth a season and a half of that production.”
And hey maybe it is. The Pats have been awful at drafting.
I’m more on Phil Perry’s side and hopeful that they can change that.
Hitting on first round picks is very important for sustained success.

Hitting on 1st round picks has always been important. We all agree on that.

As for AJ Brown, you do realize that his contract is really a 2 year deal for $50M, don't you? $25M/year for a top 10-12 WR is a bargain in today's market.
 
Welcome back, JD.
:smilies-11117:

Asking for trouble with so many mouths to feed.
As is known here, I supported and lobbied for Diggs before he signed til his release. Diggs was great for the team. No one can say he wasn't and keep a straight face.
Brown is better.
Brown + Doubs + Diggs = 3 is a crowd. This young team under young Drake's leadership doesn't need the discord. Love the thought but hate the reality.
Now, see, if we were talking about Stefon Diggs from before last season, I would agree. But I think this Diggs is different. He seemed to really enjoy being here last year and getting to the SB and knows he dodged a bullet with his legal troubles. As long as he's fairly compensated, I think he'd come back even if he only caught 1 pass a game. Hell, I bet Diggs would be a lot less of a distraction than Boutte already seems to be.
 
Hitting on 1st round picks has always been important. We all agree on that.

As for AJ Brown, you do realize that his contract is really a 2 year deal for $50M, don't you? $25M/year for a top 10-12 WR is a bargain in today's market.
It is.
 
Now that they've secured Brown, since Diggs's legal troubles are behind him it's time to give him a call. Diggs loved it here. Brown, Diggs, and Doubs, with Mack Hollins, Pop Douglas, and Kyle Williams... That would be a nice lineup, even if Boutte doesn't return.
Didn' t you see Diggs in the playoffs...well, I guess no one saw him, but I meant didn't you notice the absence of anything resembling a decent WR? We had him, he was great, esp as a Maye mentor, but it's the mark of a crap-ass team that signs and pays a player for what he used to be able to do.
 
Didn' t you see Diggs in the playoffs...well, I guess no one saw him, but I meant didn't you notice the absence of anything resembling a decent WR? We had him, he was great, esp as a Maye mentor, but it's the mark of a crap-ass team that signs and pays a player for what he used to be able to do.

He can probably do those things again if his minutes are managed. But wait, they managed his minutes last year to only 43% of the offensive plays. He still wilted in the playoffs.
There's a reason he hasn't already signed with another team.
 
No one is disagreeing with that.
The argument against AJ is that “is a first round pick worth a season and a half of that production.”
And hey maybe it is. The Pats have been awful at drafting.
I’m more on Phil Perry’s side and hopeful that they can change that.
Hitting on first round picks is very important for sustained success.
When it’s pick 32, it’s a risky pick in the world of paid college athletes. They make more in college, than rookie deals.
 
Hitting on 1st round picks has always been important. We all agree on that.

As for AJ Brown, you do realize that his contract is really a 2 year deal for $50M, don't you? $25M/year for a top 10-12 WR is a bargain in today's market.
This is precisely how I view this. I fail to see how anyone could take negative view towards this deal. To me it’s a hell of a cap to an already fantastic off season.
 
This is precisely how I view this. I fail to see how anyone could take negative view towards this deal. To me it’s a hell of a cap to an already fantastic off season.
Furthermore, the check's about to come due on Gonzo, followed by Maye. I have no problem that they view this as an opportunity window to capitalize before those two players are taking up a significant chunk of their cap space.

There were many a year where they could have made a move like this but didn't. If nothing else, their willingness to execute a trade like this should be encouraging for the fanbase.
 
Didn' t you see Diggs in the playoffs...well, I guess no one saw him, but I meant didn't you notice the absence of anything resembling a decent WR? We had him, he was great, esp as a Maye mentor, but it's the mark of a crap-ass team that signs and pays a player for what he used to be able to do.
You say "what he used to do" like he was out of the league for two seasons. He had five 100-yard games, and 2 of them were in the last 3 games of the season.

As the #2 (or maybe even #3) he'd be fine. And no one said anything about paying him big money. If you can lowball him for a good price and he's interested, why not bring him back?
 
And no one said anything about paying him big money. If you can lowball him for a good price and he's interested, why not bring him back?
Because he ran out of gas in the last half of the season and disappeared in the playoffs. Like my first girlfriend, I'm glad to have had her for a year, but towards the end, I'd seen enough. Besides, Williams flashed flashed his rookie year but was too far down the roster to get enough reps to develop. Now he's a sophomore and I want to see what he can do which won't happen if he gets buried another year. And even if Diggs might be decent, overall you do better cutting players a year too soon than a year too late.

I certainly didn't say big money. I said only crap teams sign and pay for players based on what they used to be able to do. I don't care how little he comes here for. Not worth it IMO, but that's only MO. We can look back next February and see how he did with whichever team signs him. Maybe it'll be a team with bad WRs and he'll get the ball a lot. Maybe not, but even if he does, I don't think I'll be saying, "Damn! If only we'd signed Diggs." :beer:
 
If the TEs stay healthy this year I don’t know how much they are going to want 3 WRs on the field.

But right now, one injury to the TE room could really change the offense.
 
Because he ran out of gas in the last half of the season and disappeared in the playoffs. Like my first girlfriend, I'm glad to have had her for a year, but towards the end, I'd seen enough. Besides, Williams flashed flashed his rookie year but was too far down the roster to get enough reps to develop. Now he's a sophomore and I want to see what he can do which won't happen if he gets buried another year. And even if Diggs might be decent, overall you do better cutting players a year too soon than a year too late.

I certainly didn't say big money. I said only crap teams sign and pay for players based on what they used to be able to do. I don't care how little he comes here for. Not worth it IMO, but that's only MO. We can look back next February and see how he did with whichever team signs him. Maybe it'll be a team with bad WRs and he'll get the ball a lot. Maybe not, but even if he does, I don't think I'll be saying, "Damn! If only we'd signed Diggs." :beer:
Meh, I don't get the Kyle Williams love. I'd rather have Diggs back out there. Last year's top yardage receivers: Diggs, Henry, Boutte, Hollins, Pop Douglas, Rhamondre, Austin Hooper, TreVeyon, and then Kyle WIlliams. I'd rather have a guy with 11,500 career yards, even if he is 32. And, again, last year he was our #1. He won't be expected to carry the whole offense this time. Heck, he might even be the 3rd WR.
 
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