Are you happy with the Drake Maye pick?

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The upside to Drake is massive, and he's still the right QB for this team going forward. He has size, a great arm that is very accurate and he can thread the ball into the smallest window. He also has decent pocket presence, and of course, he can use his legs. So he has all the skills there. It's a mental thing, and that makes me confident he can sort himself out because, through coaching, mental skills coaches, etc., that mental side can always be fixed.

He has the right guy in Josh as his OC. Josh is great with players and a top-class planner. And his HC is also very empathetic with players, so I'm confident he has all the right people around him. He is still so damn young.
 
Not to be too negative, but Drake Maye put in the 3rd-worst QB performance in a Super Bowl this century.

Who is ahead of him?

Kerry Collins 2001
Rich Gannon 2003

Will Campbell had the worst game of any pass protector this entire season, according to NextGen stats.
 
Let's remember this kid is 23 years old.

He reached the highest point of the game in his second season. It's only natural he would struggle at the biggest stage.

Even then he showed some fight, which is impressive in its own right considering how bad he looked for 80% of the game. Not to mention the OL was dominated all game long.

This will be valuable experience and he has the right coaches around him to take this in stride.

If at the start of the season they would've told me this team would come up short all the way to the Super Bowl I would've taken it without hesitation.

Even with all his struggles he still outplayed Darnold, which may not be saying much. But this says Maye will be a marquee, franchise QB for the foreseeable future. We are in good hands.

Aside from the bitter pill which comes from falling short, the sky is the limit with this team, and Maye is the biggest factor in this.
 
Roberto71 said:
The upside to Drake is massive, and he's still the right QB for this team going forward. He has size, a great arm that is very accurate and he can thread the ball into the smallest window. He also has decent pocket presence, and of course, he can use his legs. So he has all the skills there. It's a mental thing, and that makes me confident he can sort himself out because, through coaching, mental skills coaches, etc., that mental side can always be fixed.

He has the right guy in Josh as his OC. Josh is great with players and a top-class planner. And his HC is also very empathetic with players, so I'm confident he has all the right people around him. He is still so damn young.
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Having 4 playoff games under his belt this young will only serve him well. I am very excited about our future. This offseason should be great as we have a ton of cap and not a lot of our own FAs to sign.
 
Roberto71 said:
Not to be too negative, but Drake Maye put in the 3rd-worst QB performance in a Super Bowl this century.

Who is ahead of him?

Kerry Collins 2001
Rich Gannon 2003

Will Campbell had the worst game of any pass protector this entire season, according to NextGen stats.
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This is tough to read but yeah, can’t argue with it.
 
Mazz22 said:
Having 4 playoff games under his belt this young will only serve him well. I am very excited about our future. This offseason should be great as we have a ton of cap and not a lot of our own FAs to sign.
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I agree

#ShockToSome
 
HSanders said:
He might need to see a sports psychologist after that one.
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He's not the only one. Josh McD, Doug Marrone, and all the offensive coaches should join him. Either they seriously underestimated the strength of Seattle's defensive players relative to our offensive players OR they had no personnel answers to counter Seattle's defense. I think both are true. 2 sacks and 14 pressures given up by a blind side tackle is too many no matter how you try to explain it. That problem isn't going away on its own.

Roberto71 said:
Not to be too negative, but Drake Maye put in the 3rd-worst QB performance in a Super Bowl this century.

Who is ahead of him?

Kerry Collins 2001
Rich Gannon 2003

Will Campbell had the worst game of any pass protector this entire season, according to NextGen stats.
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Drake wasn't put in a good position, for sure. He looked confused and paralyzed by uncertainty. To me, it seemed like he was rigid for the first 3 quarters, trying to do what he was told to do rather than simply reacting naturally to situations as he had done in the middle of the season. 'Try to stay in the pocket' contradicted 'don't hold on to the ball too long' through no fault of his own until his internal clock got up to speed. Drake is at his best when he is free to extend the play for a run or pass outside of structure. There was too little of that. Why?

He was also missing passes, usually low and behind, just as he has done the last 3 games. That's not a new problem and points to a shoulder joint issue or possibly 'dead arm syndrome' from overuse and fatigue. Personally, I think his shoulder injury began 3 games before the Denver game. Without his accuracy, we're all witnesses that he's not been the same QB and that has magnified the OL problems.

The FO and coaching staff have to decide if Campbell and Wilson will be the answer for next year. Whether their problems are from injury, lack of coaching, lack of experience or lack of size and strength, a solution must be found. That may mean moving or, at least, trying Wilson at C and Campbell at G, then finding another OT. That's not easy. We looked 4 years for Campbell. The Bengals have been looking for an OT to protect Burrow as long as I can remember. Burrow is frustrated & recently admitted the game isn't fun anymore.

The last thing I want to say is our Cap space will run out quickly this off season if we don't plan carefully. FAs must be signed to replace those that leave. Gonzo will be due a hefty raise next year and Maye gets his in 2 years.
Can we find enough good replacement players through the draft?
How do we fill holes at WR, Pass Rusher, LB, OL, DL and so forth?
A lot of decisions are coming up in the next 2 months.
 
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chevss454 said:
He's not the only one. Josh McD, Doug Marrone, and all the offensive coaches should join him. Either they seriously underestimated the strength of Seattle's defensive players relative to our offensive players OR they had no personnel answers to counter Seattle's defense. I think both are true. 2 sacks and 14 pressures given up by a blind side tackle is too many no matter how you try to explain it. That problem isn't going away on its own.



Drake wasn't put in a good position, for sure. He looked confused and paralyzed by uncertainty. To me, it seemed like he was rigid for the first 3 quarters, trying to do what he was told to do rather than simply reacting naturally to situations as he had done in the middle of the season. 'Try to stay in the pocket' contradicted 'don't hold on to the ball too long' through no fault of his own until his internal clock got up to speed. Drake is at his best when he is free to extend the play for a run or pass outside of structure. There was too little of that. Why?

He was also missing passes, usually low and behind, just as he has done the last 3 games. That's not a new problem and points to a shoulder joint issue or possibly 'dead arm syndrome' from overuse and fatigue. Personally, I think his shoulder injury began 3 games before the Denver game. Without his accuracy, we're all witnesses that he's not been the same QB.

The FO and coaching staff have to decide if Campbell and Wilson will be the answer for next year. Whether their problems are from injury, lack of coaching, lack of experience or lack of size and strength, a solution must be found. That may mean moving or, at least, trying Wilson at C and Campbell at G, then finding another OT. That's not easy. We looked 4 years for Campbell. The Bengals have been looking for an OT to protect Burrow as long as I can remember. Burrow is frustrated & recently admitted the game isn't fun anymore.

The last thing I want to say is our Cap space will run out quickly this off season if we don't plan carefully. FAs must be signed to replace those that leave. Gonzo will be due a hefty raise next year and Maye gets his in 2 years.
Can we find enough good replacement players through the draft?
How do we fill holes at WR, Pass Rusher, LB, OL, DL and so forth?
A lot of decisions are coming up in the next 2 months.
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Good summary. The "second season" begins today.... for sure.
 
I am still rather happy with the Drake Drake Maye Maye pick.
 
I am now thankful that he fell a few votes short of the MVP. For the casual fan to hear “MVP Maye” throughout the game, perhaps seeing him for the first time, when he only had one drive worthy of that title would’ve been an embarrassment.
 
chevss454 said:
He's not the only one. Josh McD, Doug Marrone, and all the offensive coaches should join him. Either they seriously underestimated the strength of Seattle's defensive players relative to our offensive players OR they had no personnel answers to counter Seattle's defense. I think both are true. 2 sacks and 14 pressures given up by a blind side tackle is too many no matter how you try to explain it. That problem isn't going away on its own.



Drake wasn't put in a good position, for sure. He looked confused and paralyzed by uncertainty. To me, it seemed like he was rigid for the first 3 quarters, trying to do what he was told to do rather than simply reacting naturally to situations as he had done in the middle of the season. 'Try to stay in the pocket' contradicted 'don't hold on to the ball too long' through no fault of his own until his internal clock got up to speed. Drake is at his best when he is free to extend the play for a run or pass outside of structure. There was too little of that. Why?

He was also missing passes, usually low and behind, just as he has done the last 3 games. That's not a new problem and points to a shoulder joint issue or possibly 'dead arm syndrome' from overuse and fatigue. Personally, I think his shoulder injury began 3 games before the Denver game. Without his accuracy, we're all witnesses that he's not been the same QB and that has magnified the OL problems.

The FO and coaching staff have to decide if Campbell and Wilson will be the answer for next year. Whether their problems are from injury, lack of coaching, lack of experience or lack of size and strength, a solution must be found. That may mean moving or, at least, trying Wilson at C and Campbell at G, then finding another OT. That's not easy. We looked 4 years for Campbell. The Bengals have been looking for an OT to protect Burrow as long as I can remember. Burrow is frustrated & recently admitted the game isn't fun anymore.

The last thing I want to say is our Cap space will run out quickly this off season if we don't plan carefully. FAs must be signed to replace those that leave. Gonzo will be due a hefty raise next year and Maye gets his in 2 years.
Can we find enough good replacement players through the draft?
How do we fill holes at WR, Pass Rusher, LB, OL, DL and so forth?
A lot of decisions are coming up in the next 2 months.
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Looking at this 7 second video, I'd say Will Campbell's right knee is keeping him from anchoring and pushing forward. If he was compromised for the last few games that might
change my view of his ability


View: https://x.com/michaelFhurley/status/2020684231588848095
 
Roberto71 said:
Why in the name of all that's holy did they play him then?? If he's injured, it was sheer madness to put him out there.
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my guess is occam's razor:
" whatever percentage will campbell is,he's better than the next available option"
What I don't understand is why they didn't put a sixth lineman in more often unless I missed it.
 
As I sat here licking my wounds,I needed something uplifting and so I found this, a season 2 comparison of Maye and Brady.
  • Drake Maye's 2025 Season :
    • Record: 17-3
    • Completion %: 69.8% (regular season: 71.9%)
    • Passing Yards: 4,927 (regular season: 4,394)
    • Passing TDs: 35 (regular season: 31)
    • Interceptions: 10 (regular season: 8)
    • Passer Rating: 109.5 (regular season: 113.5)
    • Rushing Yards: 591 (regular season: 450)
    • Rushing TDs: 5 (regular season: 4)
    • Accolades: Pro Bowler, All-Pro second-teamer, MVP runner-up
  • Tom Brady's 2001 Season :
    • Record: 14-3
    • Completion %: 63.5% (regular season: 63.9%)
    • Passing Yards: 3,415 (regular season: 2,843)
    • Passing TDs: 19 (regular season: 18)
    • Interceptions: 13 (regular season: 12)
    • Passer Rating: 84.7 (regular season: 86.5)
    • Rushing Yards: 65 (regular season: 43)
    • Rushing TDs: 1 (regular season: 0)
    • Accolades: Pro Bowler, Super Bowl MVP, Super Bowl Champion
Key Differences & Similarities:

  • Maye's numbers were generally higher: He had significantly more passing yards, passing touchdowns, and rushing yards than Brady in his second year. Maye's completion percentage and passer rating were also notably higher.
  • Brady's story was different: Brady stepped in as a backup due to injury in 2001 and led the team to an unexpected Super Bowl victory, earning Super Bowl MVP. Maye made 12 starts in his rookie season and entered his second year as the team's starter.
  • Team Success: Both quarterbacks led their teams to impressive records and a Super Bowl appearance in their second seasons. Maye's Patriots had a 17-3 record, while Brady's had a 14-3 record.
  • Playoff Performance: While Maye's regular season was dominant, his playoff passer rating was 84.0, with 533 yards, four touchdowns, and two interceptions across three games. Brady, in his first playoff run, was efficient enough to lead his team to victory in tight games, culminating in a Super Bowl win
 
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