Bill Belichick did NOT make it to the HOF on 1st ballot

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SkiptoMyLou said:
Oh.

Still, he has no business making it over BB.
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I think that's somewhat debatable now. 11 SB appearances under 3 coaches? He also gets some credit for the dynasty, even if you rank him 3rd behind BB or Brady in terms of who was most responsible. As far as owners go, he's reached legend status IMO.
 
3 Point Stan said:
I think that's somewhat debatable now. 11 SB appearances under 3 coaches? He also gets some credit for the dynasty, even if you rank him 3rd behind BB or Brady in terms of who was most responsible. As far as owners go, he's reached legend status IMO.
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Jerry Jones sets a pretty low bar.
 
I think by now we can infer that the lack of comment by Tony Dungy on this topic is a sure indicator about which name did not make it onto his ballot.

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Flagg the Wanderer said:
I can't take credit for it. It's a perfectly cromulent word.


View: https://youtu.be/FcxsgZxqnEg?si=2iAB5Q1llmB8_1pe

Interesting side note: both "embiggen" and "cromulent" have since been added to the OED. Language is a weird thing; in a couple centuries someone is going to turn up that clip and won't get the joke at all...
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Pretty amazing that you would remember that line from an old Simpsons show (which I love BTW). I feel embrazened and emboldened to predict good things in our future!
 
BradyGirl said:
BB is a jerk without social skills, but the HOF is about your contributions to the game, not your personality.

Heh, BB might find this amusing. All these people rushing to defend him! ☺️
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Shaughnessy wrote that he got a text from BB but it was a no comment.
 
TipRoast said:
Spygate was Belichick's punishment for being excellent. Likewise, Deflategate was Brady's punishment for ascending far above any previous heights achieved by an NFL quarterback.

This has been a theme throughout history - those who excel must not be allowed to stay at the top. Legacies must be tarnished, so that those who are incapable of such feats can still feel satisfied with their curmudgeonly existence.

Spygate and Deflategate aren't scandals - they're confirmation that the Patriots dynasty is the envy of the NFL world.
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The very mention of those "scandals" immediately brings that ratfuck John Tomase to my mind. That jackass screamed anti-Pats BS at the top of his lungs for years until they finally caned him off the stage. I have to say that at my advanced age, John Tomase is the only living individual I would say "I hate." tomase 2.webp
 
PatsFan09 said:
That doesn’t work here.
The simplest explanation is that BB has the greatest resume of all time and should have been a first ballot HOF’er.
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Mazz22 said:
Your forgot one.
3) Brady is not an Ahole.
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If you honestly believe that you truly haven't been living under a rock for the past 10 years - you've been residing beneath the base of Mt. Everest. There's sufficient evidence that Belichick may well fall into the asshole category, but there's at least as much to suggest that Brady is side-by-side with Bill in that grouping, if not even a bit above him.
 
Phil Elliott said:
If you honestly believe that you truly haven't been living under a rock for the past 10 years - you've been residing beneath the base of Mt. Everest. There's sufficient evidence that Belichick may well fall into the asshole category, but there's at least as much to suggest that Brady is side-by-side with Bill in that grouping, if not even a bit above him.
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You gotta be some kind of nasty asshole to peddle 'special water' as a being a cure for concussions. Bill never did anything like that. He was too busy building his charity foundation for kids and visiting prisoners along with Jim Brown to try and get them on the right path. What an asshole.
 
This just exposed one of the biggest issues with the Hall of Fame: it's partially a popularity contest. We've seen borderline coaches and players make the Hall of Fame. We've also seen them keep out certain players for very petty reasons, despite having HOF stats and achievements. He might have been an asshole to players and the media, but no one can question his Hall of Fame resume: 8 Super Bowl rings, 12 Super Bowl appearances, and coming up with some of the greatest defensive game plans in Super Bowl history
 
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king of kings said:
This just exposed one of the biggest issues with the Hall of Fame: it's partially a popularity contest. We've seen borderline coaches and players make the Hall of Fame. We've also seen them keep out certain players for very petty reasons, despite having HOF stats and achievements. He might have been an asshole to players and the media, but no one can question his Hall of Fame resume: 8 Super Bowl rings, 12 Super Bowl appearances, and coming up with some of the greatest defensive game plans in Super Bowl history
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And yet we've seen cretins like Warren Sapp get in, and players with dubious off-field records like LT, and others who got in with no issue. It was never a problem for voters then, they said as much in interviews. And now, it suddenly becomes an issue? Please. This is payback against Bill for daring to win in an era when it was designed not to happen, and it's a giant FU to the team and its fans as a whole.

Yet another player of the "Steel Curtain' will probably get in this year. As Franco Harris said when he was inducted, they've built a Steeler wing to the HOF. And that was a team that won 4 SBs. You then have a team that won 6 and was in 10 Superbowls across different eras, and who have we in the HOF from that 20-year period? At the end of all this, in a few years we may have 7 in BB, Kraft, Brady, Seymour, Law, Moss and Gronk. And that will be it. The Steelers had Lynn Swann, Stallworth, Hamm, Noll, Shell, Nunn (a. scout FFS), Joe Greene, Butler, Bradshaw, Blount, Harris, Lambert, Art Rooney, Dan Rooney, and Webster all from that era. And even outside that era they still got Bettis, Cowher, Polamalu, Faneca in.

It's ridiculous. Does anyone really believe that is a fair reflection of the Patriots?
 
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Roberto71 said:
And yet we've seen cretins like Warren Sapp get in, and players with dubious off-field records like LT, and others who got in with no issue. It was never a problem for voters then, they said as much in interviews. And now, it suddenly becomes an issue? Please. This is payback against Bill for daring to win in an era when it was designed not to happen, and it's a giant FU to the team and its fans as a whole.

Yet another player of the "Steel Curtain' will probably get in this year. As Franco Harris said when he was inducted, they've built a Steeler wing to the HOF. And that was a team that won 4 SBs. You then have a team that won 6 and was in 10 Superbowls across different eras, and who have we in the HOF from that 20-year period? At the end of all this, in a few years we may have 7 in BB, Kraft, Brady, Seymour, Law, Moss and Gronk. And that will be it. The Steelers had Lynn Swann, Stallworth, Hamm, Noll, Shell, Nunn (a. scout FFS), Joe Greene, Butler, Bradshaw, Blount, Harris, Lambert, Art Rooney, Dan Rooney, and Webster all from that era. And even outside that era they still got Bettis, Cowher, Polamalu, Faneca in.

It's ridiculous. Does anyone really believe that is a fair reflection of the Patriots?
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Sometimes people get exposed and then sometimes they get over-exposed to the point of severe backlash. I believe the latter has occurred here and my hope is, as a result, the bullshit has to subside and the worthy are enshrined.

I have to admit, I almost fell off my chair when Richard Seymour got the nod. I thought they'd make him wait 10 years. My hope is these idiots over-correct to a point we start seeing guys like Rodney and Wilfork get their due flowers.
 
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