China's Massive Parade

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They might have some shiny toys but they lack one thing we don't and thats warfare experience.

Anyway all we have to do is close all our walmarts and their economy shuts down.
 

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I don't know how accurate they are but I've seen stats that the US military is bigger than than the other top 5 militaries in the world combined. If that's the case I'm not worried.

Give me an army of free men any day.
 

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I don't know how accurate they are but I've seen stats that the US military is bigger than than the other top 5 militaries in the world combined. If that's the case I'm not worried.

Give me an army of free men any day.

5 times more expensive...not 5 times bigger.
 

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I don't know how accurate they are but I've seen stats that the US military is bigger than than the other top 5 militaries in the world combined. If that's the case I'm not worried.

Give me an army of free men any day.

Huh?

I thought we were at about 1.3 mil active and 800K reserve.

I have to believe China of all places must have a mandatory adult male service requirement, like N. Korea.

With their population? That should DWARF us.
 

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Huh?

I thought we were at about 1.3 mil active and 800K reserve.

I have to believe China of all places must have a mandatory adult male service requirement, like N. Korea.

With their population? That should DWARF us.

Troops maybe higher in China, I don't know. But we are technologically superior to just about every country military wise and that mitigates the need for a massive troop build up IMO.

Edit: I just looked it up and recent info has China at 2,035,000 active and 510,000 reserve. Given our technological superiority I see no issue here. The US got this.
 

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Troops maybe higher in China, I don't know. But we are technologically superior to just about every country military wise and that mitigates the need for a massive troop build up IMO.

Edit: I just looked it up and recent info has China at 2,035,000 active and 510,000 reserve. Given our technological superiority I see no issue here. The US got this.

Oh I agree the tech is on our side.
 

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The Chinese military isn't all that large, only what it needs. They aren't engaged in foreign wars all around the world like we are.

The threat is, of course, their ability to introduce a draft and create the world's largest military in a very short time if they had to.

As for technology...that is our greatest strength as long as we are fighting second world nations. Against first world nations, it is our weakness. Anything networked can and will be hacked, and our military is highly networked.

That's why China and Russia have entire branches of the military dedicated to cyber warfare. Keyboards are their second greatest anti-US weapon, second only to EMP.

Believe me, Chinese and Russian doctrine does not involve taking the US military on in conventional warfare. Their doctrine is to attack the technology, and then attack the crippled forces that depend on the technology.
 

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The Chinese military isn't all that large, only what it needs. They aren't engaged in foreign wars all around the world like we are.

The threat is, of course, their ability to introduce a draft and create the world's largest military in a very short time if they had to.

As for technology...that is our greatest strength as long as we are fighting second world nations. Against first world nations, it is our weakness. Anything networked can and will be hacked, and our military is highly networked.

That's why China and Russia have entire branches of the military dedicated to cyber warfare. Keyboards are their second greatest anti-US weapon, second only to EMP.

Believe me, Chinese and Russian doctrine does not involve taking the US military on in conventional warfare. Their doctrine is to attack the technology, and then attack the crippled forces that depend on the technology.

We have the same thing and in many ways it's far superior to these despotic countries.
 

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We have the same thing and in many ways it's far superior to these despotic countries.

Those countries' military's can function with crashed networks. Ours can't. Our military has embedded automation everywhere. Everything in the military is vulnerable to keyboard soldiers.

This is an example of what I'm talking about...

https://www.gao.gov/assets/700/694965.pdf
 

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Those countries' military's can function with crashed networks. Ours can't.

I disagree. Haven't you ever watched 24? CTUs networks get crashed often but the data is not centralized. :party:

Seriously though. I do disagree.
 

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Those countries' military's can function with crashed networks. Ours can't. Our military has embedded automation everywhere. Everything in the military is vulnerable to keyboard soldiers.

This is an example of what I'm talking about...

https://www.gao.gov/assets/700/694965.pdf

Military doesn’t run on the public network. I build the public network.
 

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Military doesn’t run on the public network. I build the public network.

You didn't read the report....

Common hackers, for example, can compromise critical military networks, hardware, and software in less than an hour, because the military uses commercial software with built in default passwords that they never change or update.
 
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