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Dwight Schrute

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Since some of the previous comments have addressed COVID in relation to those who are the most vulnerable, I want to share my thoughts because it's a subject that is very close to me.

First, I want to start by saying that I'm someone who often used the words "isolation" and "quarantine" as if they were one and the same. Then, my daughter corrected me by explaining that "isolation" refers to those who have tested positive. The length of isolation will vary depending on the severity and (hopefully) recovery of the patient. "Quarantine" refers to those who have been in close contact with someone who has tested positive. The length of quarantine is 14 days.

So, when I hear someone saying that the vulnerable should just quarantine themselves; I find myself wishing it was that easy. But, it's not. My first example is of the nursing home near me. They locked their doors on March 10th. Since then, the residents are only allowed to leave if they need medical attention that can't be provided there, if they are completely removed from the facility by the family, or if they die.

With the exception of end-of-life cases, no visitors were allowed until June when they finally made arrangements for outdoor visits where two family members could visit a resident once a week for 20 minutes. Those visits were closely monitored by a staff member to insure that face masks were worn and social distancing was done. I don't know what they will be doing now that cooler weather is coming, but I'm hoping that they could at least come up with something like what I've seen on TV where a prisoner sits on one side of a plexiglass wall and can communicate via phone with the visitor on the other side.

Since the residents of this and most nursing homes are primarily the elderly, there will be the Gov. Coumo's of the world who will just look away which is why I'm going to give you my second example. It's the story of my granddaughter who is among the vulnerable due to her need to take anti-rejection meds. I don't think that anyone would consider a five-year old to be someone who has already had a full life.

She was removed from school in March and since then has only left her home to go two places. One of those is the hospital because she needs to have periodic blood draws to monitor her system. The other is my home because my husband and I decided to severely limit our interaction with others so as to give her a safe place to go away from her home.

Both of my examples are not quarantines. They would be more comparable to a 7-month lockdown and one that I don't see ending anytime soon. This isn't their fault. My granddaughter was born with a rare disease. The elderly only did what many of us may do which is to grow older which often brings health problems with it.

It also isn't the fault of anyone else which is why I am an advocate for cautiously opening up things. Too many people have already suffered financially, mentally, and physically from the shutdowns. People need to work. They need to feel productive. They need to be able to socialize with others. Children need to be in school and participating in other activities with their peers.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I too often sense a lack of compassion. A lack of compassion for the most vulnerable and a lack of compassion for those who just want to pick up whatever is left of their lives and move forward. That makes me sad because I don't think this is due to people not caring for others, but more an indication of how those playing political games with COVID have affected our thinking.
Sad to hear of your granddaughters condition.

I’ve seen examples of parents taking the kids over to see Grammie and Grandpa. When they get to the house they go to the front storm door or a driveway window and interact thru the glass. Play in the yard for them to see. Ride a bike in a driveway. Make the best of it. Ideal? No. But the kid gets to LIVE, they are all safe, and transmission is not possible.

If I were in that spot I’d want it no other way, other than spending a great deal of time outdoors in super isolated remote natural beauty areas.
 

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WHO warns against COVID-19 lockdowns due to economic damage​

Dr. David Nabarro suggests lockdowns should be a last resort only​

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Varney: We rarely hear about lockdown dangers Video
The World Health Organization has warned leaders against relying on COVID-19 lockdowns to tackle outbreaks — after previously saying countries should be careful how quickly they reopen.

WHO envoy Dr. David Nabarro said such restrictive measures should only be treated as a last resort, the British magazine the Spectator reported in a video interview.

“We in the World Health Organization do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus,” Nabarro said.

“The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganize, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large, we’d rather not do it.”

Nabarro said tight restrictions cause significant harm, particularly on the global economy.

“Lockdowns just have one consequence that you must never, ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer,” he said.

He added that lockdowns have severely impacted countries that rely on tourism.

“Just look at what’s happened to the tourism industry in the Caribbean, for example, or in the Pacific because people aren’t taking their holidays,” Nabarro told the outlet.

VARNEY: WHY THE LOCKDOWN WARNING MATTERS FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE

“Look what’s happened to smallholder farmers all over the world. Look what’s happening to poverty levels. It seems that we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year. We may well have at least a doubling of child malnutrition.”

The UN agency previously warned countries against lifting lockdowns too soon during the first wave of the virus.

“The last thing any country needs is to open schools and businesses, only to be forced to close them again because of a resurgence,” said Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus.

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But Tedros had urged countries to bolster other measures, including widespread testing and contact tracing, so they could safely reopen and avoid future lockdowns.

“We need to reach a sustainable situation where we have adequate control of this virus without shutting down our lives entirely, or lurching from lockdown to lockdown — which has a hugely detrimental impact on societies,” he said.

With Post wires

This story first appeared in the New York Post.
 

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Concord Hospital Weekly Update:

As of October 12, we've ordered COVID-19 tests for approximately 19,628 patients. To date, we've received results for 19,512 patients, which includes 215 COVID-19 positive results. Of the 215 positive results, one patient is currently hospitalized.
 

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Interesting. This is something to keep an eye on.
I don’t know why it would surprise. Or give anyone the idea that once you get it your immune forever. It’s a derivation (a much more serious one) of the common cold. A coronavirus. There’s no cure. People can get them multi times per season. Same with flu.

That’s why locking down until there’s a vaccine simply isn’t feasible. Unless you’re independently wealthy enough to carry yourself through.
 

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I don’t know why it would surprise. Or give anyone the idea that once you get it your immune forever. It’s a derivation (a much more serious one) of the common cold. A coronavirus. There’s no cure. People can get them multi times per season. Same with flu.

That’s why locking down until there’s a vaccine simply isn’t feasible. Unless you’re independently wealthy enough to carry yourself through.

Sorry I had just woken up. Yeah, that's what I was getting at.
 

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I looked at Biden’s covid plan last night, what a bunch of malarkey. A lot of talk, no actions at all to judge how he would do things differently.
 

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I looked at Biden’s covid plan last night, what a bunch of malarkey. A lot of talk, no actions at all to judge how he would do things differently.
All his plan is is a lot of Monday morning QBing, plagiarism(which Pence DESTROYED Harris with) and public bluster (reminiscent of the Russia Hoax load of crap so many ate and asked for more).

If you folks fall for the Dem misinformation plan again there’s not much I can say. I tried to warn ya.

I’ll be all set.
 

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JP's on a roll.

If the Pandemic Thinking Was Applied To Everything

The Pandemic Hotline

If the Main Stream Narrative Was a Conspiracy

The NEW CDC Infection Fatality Rates!

People That Wear a Mask in Their Car
 

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Who knew you could only post 5 videos

How Couples Were in January vs August 2020
 

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Shocked.
 

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A coalition of doctors and other health professionals in Belgium has issued an open letter calling for an immediate end to every “emergency” policy established in response to the novel coronavirus (covid-19), as well as a full-scale investigation into the World Health Organization (WHO) for allegedly faking a pandemic.

Citing a complete lack of “medical justification” for the continued lockdowns and mandatory mask-wearing, the coalition says an open debate is needed to allow all experts with varying perspectives the chance to be represented and have their voices heard, without censorship or retribution.

Forcing people to remain in isolation while prohibiting them from engaging in normal commerce, traveling freely, and even going to work, the letter’s signers warn, is having a greater negative impact both in the short and long term than if there were no restrictions at all – which is why it all needs to end immediately.

In Belgium, at least, health authorities never would have imposed such restrictions were it not for the misguidance of the WHO. The Belgian Supreme Health Council (BSHC) normally takes a minimalist approach, meaning it encourages people to adopt a healthy lifestyle that works for them, rather than try to force them to abide by some one-size-fits-all government prescription such as the one that came down the pipeline from the WHO.

Furthermore, the latest science does not even support the WHO’s approach, which is hurting people more than it is helping them.

“After the initial panic surrounding covid-19, the objective facts now show a completely different picture – there is no medical justification for any emergency policy anymore,” the letter reads.
“The current crisis management has become totally disproportionate and causes more damage than it does any good,” it goes on to explain. “We call for an end to all measures and ask for an immediate restoration of our normal democratic governance and legal structures and of all our civil liberties.”
Having to get vaccinated for the Wuhan coronavirus (covid-19) is another draconian imposition coming down the pike that carries with it permanent health consequences, seeing as how there is no way to effectively detoxify from an mRNA vaccine.


~Dee~
 

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Wow. thanks deec. my one girlfriend at work and i are all set to refuse any vaccine if it is required. i'll go to hr and tell them they'd better put me on some sort of layoff or voluntary sep package unless they want a lawsuit.
 

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Wow. thanks deec. my one girlfriend at work and i are all set to refuse any vaccine if it is required. i'll go to hr and tell them they'd better put me on some sort of layoff or voluntary sep package unless they want a lawsuit.
Good for you HS
 

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Hopefully US follows suit
 

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Both of those "news" sources are quite questionable at best. I will believe it when I see it on the BBC or anywhere else

Michel Chossudovsky
(born 1946) is a Canadian economist, author and conspiracy theorist. [1][2] He is professor emeritus of economics at the University of Ottawa[3][4] and the president and director of the Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG), which runs the website globalresearch.ca, which multiple sources say is a publisher of conspiracy theories.[5][6][7][8] Chossudovsky has promoted such theories about 9/11.[9][10][13][14]

In 2017, the Centre for Research on Globalization was accused by information warfare specialists at NATO’s Strategic Communications Centre of Excellence (STRATCOM) of playing a key role in the spread of pro-Russian propaganda.[6] A report by the U.S. State Department in August 2020 accused the website of being a proxy for the Russian disinformation campaign.[15]

 

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Can someone link to a credible information source on this statement?

how there is no way to effectively detoxify from an mRNA vaccine.
 

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just to clarify, this is my personal stance. it is not based on what experts say about it.
 

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I linked an article the CDC posted that Covid was actually the cause of death in 6% of cases. That’s the same CDC that everyone is telling us to follow ... because of follow the science and all.
This is almost solely the reason we decided to send our daughter back to MSU. She can easily take her classes here at home but instead we forked over the cost to live there with her sorority sisters so that she could have some semblance of a college life.

Our young people are suffering unnecessarily. Our middle-age people are suffering unnecessarily. Our older people without comorbidities are suffering unnecessarily.
 
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