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Mazz22 said:
If that is actually true, I don’t believe it is then my original point stands - GM malpractice.
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The malpractice being....keeping Brady as long as he did? That's actually the only explanation to say "GM Malpractice" in this case.
 
TommyD420 said:
2014 is not 2016. Drafting Garrapolo was the right move for any team that had a 37 year old QB. Brady didn't decline as expected. LETTING HIM GO was a Kraft/Brady production. I don't think Belichick was on board with trading him. But between 2016-2019, the entire structure of the team was pushing Brady's cap hit down the road - again, this is so undeniable, that it's amazing that anyone tries to pretend this isn't the case.
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With apologizes to the Four Tops:

She was a sweet Patriots Planet poster
But now I gotta ghost her
She prattles on and leaves my brain in pain
All she has left is her favorite song
The one she used to dream on all night long
He used to bring her sweet memories
Of a tender love that used to be

Now it's the same old song
But with a different tune since her heart’s long gone
Now it's the same old song
But with a different tune since her heart’s long gone
And we don’t wanna hear it


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZLG9MV5GvQ
 
TommyD420 said:
2014 is not 2016. Drafting Garrapolo was the right move for any team that had a 37 year old QB. Brady didn't decline as expected. LETTING HIM GO was a Kraft/Brady production. I don't think Belichick was on board with trading him. But between 2016-2019, the entire structure of the team was pushing Brady's cap hit down the road - again, this is so undeniable, that it's amazing that anyone tries to pretend this isn't the case.
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Brady's cap hit has nothing to do with drafting a QB for the future. Tampa drafted Trask in round 2 in Brady's second year coming off the SB win.
 
Mazz22 said:
Brady's cap hit has nothing to do with drafting a QB for the future. Tampa drafted Trask in round 2 in Brady's second year coming off the SB win.
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No, it had to do with massaging his ego, because he got Garropolo run out of town, with the help of Bob Kraft. You can't possibly be this intentionally blind to this, can you?
 
TommyD420 said:
No, it had to do with massaging his ego, because he got Garropolo run out of town, with the help of Bob Kraft. You can't possibly be this intentionally blind to this, can you?
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Oh please. Drafting Jimmy was Bill's best draft pick as it produced some of the best football of Brady's career. He thrives on competition. What happened is Brady outplayed Jimmy's window. We went to back to back SBs in 16 and 17, should have won both but Butler. It was a no brainer to keep Brady and trade Jimmy but Bill waited until midnight of the trade deadline when the Browns wanted Jimmy all spring.

You really think Brady would have cared if Bill drafted another QB in round 2 or 3? Bill had drafted QBs his entire career every other year.
 
Mazz22 said:
Oh please. Drafting Jimmy was Bill's best draft pick as it produced some of the best football of Brady's career. He thrives on competition. What happened is Brady outplayed Jimmy's window. We went to back to back SBs in 16 and 17, should have won both but Butler. It was a no brainer to keep Brady and trade Jimmy but Bill waited until midnight of the trade deadline when the Browns wanted Jimmy all spring.

You really think Brady would have cared if Bill drafted another QB in round 2 or 3? Bill had drafted QBs his entire career every other year.
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He cared and cried about Garroppolo, so...yes.
 
TommyD420 said:
He cared and cried about Garroppolo, so...yes.
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No, he didn't. He played the best football of his career after Jimmy was drafted.
 
Mazz22 said:
No, he didn't. He played the best football of his career after Jimmy was drafted.
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This again?
You know, both things can be true simultaneously.
The competition JimmyG provided did prompt Brady to elevate his game. At the same time Brady was definitely threatened by JimmyG. That has been widely reported and even Giz talked about it on the record. It is also true that Brady complained loudly and often to RKK about the threat Jimmy's presence caused him.
 
chevss454 said:
This again?
You know, both things can be true simultaneously.
The competition JimmyG provided did prompt Brady to elevate his game. At the same time Brady was definitely threatened by JimmyG. That has been widely reported and even Giz talked about it on the record. It is also true that Brady complained loudly and often to RKK about the threat Jimmy's presence caused him.
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I don't see why any of that would prevent Bill from drafting a QB? Like I said, the Bucs drafted Trask in the second round the year after Brady won the SB. I mean Brady only ended up staying 2 more years anyway so drafting a young QB in 18 or 19 or 20 would have made perfect sense. GB didn't care what Favre or Rodgers felt when they drafted their replacements 3 years prior to them leaving.
 
Mazz22 said:
I don't see why any of that would prevent Bill from drafting a QB? Like I said, the Bucs drafted Trask in the second round the year after Brady won the SB. I mean Brady only ended up staying 2 more years anyway so drafting a young QB in 18 or 19 or 20 would have made perfect sense. GB didn't care what Favre or Rodgers felt when they drafted their replacements 3 years prior to them leaving.
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Do you have some sort of brain injury?

Chevss just told you, and I just told you why. The fact that the Bucs took Kyle Trask in the 2nd round, a bum who's taken all of 9 snaps (3/9 23 yds btw) in two seasons wasn't drafted to be the REPLACEMENT in Tampa. If he WERE, he would be STARTING RIGHT NOW, and not BAKER MAYFIELD.

Beyond that, Brady was completely year to year when the Bucs took him, and as it stood, he played exactly one more season. His job was never threatened by Kyle Fucking Trask. He wasn't drafted to take his job. That job was Brady's until he retired, which he did at 46. His job was never in jeopardy. It was here after some subpar (by Brady's standards) play, leading up to Garroppolo being drafted, which ELEVATED BRADY'S PLAY (which was 50% of why he was drafted).

Aaron Rodgers sat in Green Bay for three full seasons before getting to play there, and the reason Favre was "retiring" was directly because of Aaron Rodgers, yes.

Also, comparing Brett Favre to Tom Brady is such an incredible insult that you really should be ashamed of yourself. The fact that you would defame your hero in such a manner to make a Brady > BB argument is pretty low, even for you.
 
Soooooooo back to this thread "J.C. Jackson" - he actually looked ok out there yesterday. Just kinda slid right back in. It was a complete shit show but I noticed not much rust on JC out there
 
MaineMimi said:
Soooooooo back to this thread "J.C. Jackson" - he actually looked ok out there yesterday. Just kinda slid right back in. It was a complete shit show but I noticed not much rust on JC out there
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I mean, they targeted Wade and Bryant mostly anyway, as to be expected. The defense only gave up 20 points, and Mac Jones gave up 14, so. All in all not a terrible effort from a decimated defense. They already miss Judon though, it was obvious.
 
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