Looking at the Patriots - 2021

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Soooo....Tre Flowers? They could definitely use some help in the secondary and he has experience at CB and Safety. 🤷‍♂️

 

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Didn't Welker hit free agency the year Edelman took over? I am sure Edelman was a major factor in the decision to let Welker walk though, no doubt.
Yes and no. First two games of 2011, Edelman was starting over Welker before he got hurt.
 

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So this old guy is not that bad...
I think it's odd these kickers make these 50+ yarders and then go out there and botch a PAT. Not trying to be critical of Folk, but it appears to be a modern football phenomenon. It's all over the league.
 

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I think it's odd these kickers make these 50+ yarders and then go out there and botch a PAT. Not trying to be critical of Folk, but it appears to be a modern football phenomenon. It's all over the league.
Kick or go for two?

Debate closed - Go for two.
 

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I agree with others above. I think the Defense is really good and will get better. I would like to see them get off the field on 3rd down. There have been a lot of times that they make a nice stop on 3rd down but it is negated by a penalty.
 

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I agree with others above. I think the Defense is really good and will get better. I would like to see them get off the field on 3rd down. There have been a lot of times that they make a nice stop on 3rd down but it is negated by a penalty.
I think with the way they came back to win the game, even in ugly fashion, it could go a long way to them improving because they can see how their self inflicted wounds lead to losses or almost losses, when in reality, those are wins. They just are. They've thrown games away and even in the NOs game as subpar as that was, they were within a TD in the 4th qtr.

I fully expect a quality 60 min game on Sunday.
 

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I think with the way they came back to win the game, even in ugly fashion, it could go a long way to them improving because they can see how their self inflicted wounds lead to losses or almost losses, when in reality, those are wins. They just are. They've thrown games away and even in the NOs game as subpar as that was, they were within a TD in the 4th qtr.

I fully expect a quality 60 min game on Sunday.

I hope so. These next 4 weeks may tell us who this team really is - Cowboys, Chargers, Panthers & Browns. 2-7 is a real possibility unless lessons get learned quickly.
 

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I hope so. These next 4 weeks may tell us who this team really is - Cowboys, Chargers, Panthers & Browns. 2-7 is a real possibility unless lessons get learned quickly.
2-7?

Yikes.

I am seeing 4-3 in 2 weeks. I am not sure where 2-7 is coming from. Chargers will be tough, certainly more so than last year even though our QB is way better. It's good we get the Browns at home as that will certainly be tough. Not sure what the handwringing might be with Carolina. They're not very good and honestly I don't know how Dallas struggled so much with them.
 
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2-7?

Yikes.

I am seeing 4-3 in 2 weeks. I am not sure where 2-7 is coming from. Chargers will be tough and it's good we get the Browns at home. Not sure what the handwringing might be with Carolina. They're not very good and honestly I don't know Dallas struggled so much with them.
Why do you feel Carolina isn't good? I've only seen a bit of a couple of games, which is not like me. I tend to watch them all. So, I have nothing to agree or disagree on atm.
 

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I hope so. These next 4 weeks may tell us who this team really is - Cowboys, Chargers, Panthers & Browns. 2-7 is a real possibility unless lessons get learned quickly.

I'm hopefully optimistic that Pats will at least split, but Pats better right that OL ship come the game against the Browns. Their DL is terrifying.
 

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Why do you feel Carolina isn't good? I've only seen a bit of a couple of games, which is not like me. I tend to watch them all. So, I have nothing to agree or disagree on atm.
They lack talent. Sam Darnold is their QB. They're rebuilding and are behind us. The McCaffrey contract is a classic albatross.
 

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I'm hopefully optimistic that Pats will at least split, but Pats better right that OL ship come the game against the Browns. Their DL is terrifying.
Did you see LA drop 40 on them? If I am in week 5 and my D is allowing 30-40 points per game, I am concerned.
 

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I'm not willing to simply assume that this team will "start playing Patriots Football" anymore. The self-inflicted wounds, brain cramps, etc. could be who this team is after so much turnover and such a brain drain of the assistant coaches.

BUT

I'm not counting on that. They could absolutely be doing their classic thing where they look like they're falling to pieces in the first quarter of the year, then go on a run. They could definitely lose all 4 of those upcoming tough games, but I think that's unlikely. They could certainly go on a run and win all of them, too. I also think that's unlikely. I'm living the suspense, and watching it all unfold.

I will say that if they beat Dallas, they should get some confidence and momentum going, then roll through the Jest the following week. In that case, there's a very legitimate chance that they go into week 10 (hosting Cleveland) at 6-3. Standing between the Jets game and the Cleveland game is a road trip to LA and Carolina. The Chargers are excellent and the Panthers aren't terrible, but I think both are good matchups for the Patriots.
 

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They lack talent. Sam Darnold is their QB. They're rebuilding and are behind us. The McCaffrey contract is a classic albatross.
It is, the contract. They also need to not rely on him as heavily as they did the last few years. With that contract placed on him I get why they would think so, not to mention he is pretty good. But they didn't have a choice recently to not use him . He is a beast but the beast can only last for so long hench the injuries.

I am not going to ding their QB, yet. As for their talent, I will go back and watch some games and see what's going on.
 

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Did you see LA drop 40 on them? If I am in week 5 and my D is allowing 30-40 points per game, I am concerned.

The Chargers are a playoff caliber team. Sure the defense was woeful, but it wasn't like they got blown out. It was a wide open game, sometimes there are games like this. That said, I don't think Pats can afford to get into a shootout right now.
 

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It is, the contract. They also need to not rely on him as heavily as they did the last few years. With that contract placed on him I get why they would think so, not to mention he is pretty good. But they didn't have a choice recently to not use him . He is a beast but the beast can only last for so long hench the injuries.

I am not going to ding their QB, yet. As for their talent, I will go back and watch some games and see what's going on.
Yeah, I just wouldn't draft a scatback body in the top 10 of a draft. I mean, anyone could have predicted with over-use he'd get hurt and the contract is just so dumb. It will hurt them for years.

Thompson and Chinn are good on their D, but I am not seeing much else to be honest. Certainly Anderson and Moore are good WRs. And, it's early for Darnold. The more film on him with Rhule, the more patterns that will be developed with Darnold's tendencies there. I am not buying him just because he changed teams.
 
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