Looking at the Patriots 2023

Thought this was a fun article and worth a read.


Kayshon Boutte was once thought to be a potential Top 10 pick.

When the wide receiver from LSU was finally taken by the Patriots in the sixth round of last month’s NFL Draft, Ryan Antoine’s reaction was simple.
“He’s the steal of the draft,” the Westgate High School football coach said. “He can just go play football and be in an organization of true structure and great stability. I think that will be amazing for him. He couldn’t ask for a better place to go to. Now he just has to show everybody what everybody around here already knows.”

Antoine has been watching Boutte score touchdowns since peewee ball in in New Iberia, Louisiana. When it came time to decide on a high school, Antoine convinced him to attend Westgate, and Boutte grew into a highly-touted recruit under his watch. As a freshman, Antoine tried to ease him in, but a month into the season had Boutte already forced his way into the varsity lineup.
“The biggest thing was just his competitiveness,” Antoine said. Boutte played everywhere at Westgate — wildcat quarterback, running back, inside receiver, outside receiver, kick returner etc. — and Antoine found creative ways to motivate him. One, in particular, came against Captain Shreve during his sophomore year.

“I took his phone from him,” Antoine recalled. “I said, ‘Hey you’re not getting your phone unless you have a breakout game.’”

Boutte lifted Westgate to a 27-22 win with three second-half touchdowns, including a 97-yard reception, and the game-winner with 2:02 remaining in the fourth quarter.

Kayshon ended the night with over 300 yards receiving,” Antoine said. “He just started making plays all over the place. I’m like OK, now he’s arrived. He’s definitely one of the top players in the state just as a 15, 16-year-old... Now you can have your phone back.”

Another time, Boutte showed up on game day in compression tights. Antoine wasn’t a fan.

“I didn’t want guys wearing tights,” Antoine said. “‘In order to keep these tights on, you’d better have a hell of a night or I’ll take you out of the game.’ Two plays later, I think he had two touchdowns back-to-back... ‘You all can put tights on now. If that’s how you’re going to play, we’re all going to wear tights.’”

Though an undoubted star in high school, things were more turbulent for Boutte at the college level. After excelling under Ed Orgeron as a freshman at LSU — one afternoon he torched Ole Miss for an SEC record 308 receiving yards — Boutte broke his ankle and ended his sophomore year prematurely.

Then when Brian Kelly took over for his junior season, there was friction and a different offense (and a different coaching staff) to learn. Off the field, Boutte’s girlfriend gave birth to a son last September, so there were plenty of changes across the board.

Though Boutte wasn’t able to match his stellar first season at LSU, Antoine believes Foxborough is the perfect place for him to hit his ceiling.

“To be honest with you, Kayshon still hasn’t scratched the surface of his potential,” Antoine said. “I think going to an organization like the Patriots with Coach (Bill) Belichick, I think you’re going to see monumental leaps. The biggest thing with Kayshon is just keep it competitive, keep it structured, and always have him working to always get better. When the chips are on the table, I know he’s always ready to perform."

“Get ready. Get y’all’s popcorn. Y’all going to see the show.”

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I'd rather he be self motivated and self-disciplined, but if he needs structure then the Patriots are the place to be for him to excel.
 
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I'd rather he be self motivated in self-discipline, but if he needs structure then the patriots are the place to be for him to excel.
i hear you but...i am not very self-motivated when it comes to working out. during covid,i did do a work out video or something daily, but i didn't have the same committment so i put on weight. that's why i sign up for classes and go to a studio. having classes scheduled and getting my butt kicked by an instructor is how i get better. i work out about 14 hours/week.
 
i hear you but...i am not very self-motivated when it comes to working out. during covid,i did do a work out video or something daily, but i didn't have the same committment so i put on weight. that's why i sign up for classes and go to a studio. having classes scheduled and getting my butt kicked by an instructor is how i get better. i work out about 14 hours/week.
That sounds pretty self-motivated to me. Enough to know yourself.
 
i hear you but...i am not very self-motivated when it comes to working out. during covid,i did do a work out video or something daily, but i didn't have the same committment so i put on weight. that's why i sign up for classes and go to a studio. having classes scheduled and getting my butt kicked by an instructor is how i get better. i work out about 14 hours/week.

You ARE self motivated. You are doing what is in your own best interest on you own. Nobody has to tell you. It doesn't impact your career.
 
So, it seems that the Thursday OTA session was cancelled and the reason is that the Pats violated an unspecified rule pertaining to the offseason which
will cost us another day of OTAs.

So, the question is -- what did we do?

I'm going with one of three:

1. Bill used his unofficial massive network of College personnel to perform defacto extra interviews with draft prospects.

2. The Patriots were caught putting in a CIA-level surveillance suite in the new Gillette lighthouse capable of improved signal jamming, AI lip-reading and
directed sideline beams using infrasound that can cause opponents to feel lethargic and confused.

3. Mac Jones was ordered to study his playbook in between songs while sitting the front row of last Friday's Taylor Swift concert and a clip of that was posted to
a 14 year-old girl from Medford's Tik-tok.
 
It’s being talked about in random football news, but I sure hope Hopkins is a Patriot on a reasonable contract for the next 2 years.
He seems ready to buy in, and that will give the team time to draft and develop a number one stud for the long term next year.
 


Just to keep it real, that picture has been around for a while and was also trotted out during the first days of FA. I say
that because I got fooled. Sorry, but It's bogus.

I believe we would be a better O with him in Foxboro, but I think we'll be fine when he signs with KC, which I'd
describe as a no-brainer if he wants a shot at a ring and not just the biggest possible payday.

They are very solid on the OL and have the best QB in the business. The combination of Mahomes' smarts/accuracy and
DHops hands and ability to screen defenders never mind the time the two will enjoy to work things open spells trouble for
anybody trying to stop them. The Chiefs don't make a lot of personnel mistakes, unfortunately, and they'll make him an
offer he can't refuse.
 
Just to keep it real, that picture has been around for a while and was also trotted out during the first days of FA. I say
that because I got fooled. Sorry, but It's bogus.

I believe we would be a better O with him in Foxboro, but I think we'll be fine when he signs with KC, which I'd
describe as a no-brainer if he wants a shot at a ring and not just the biggest possible payday.

They are very solid on the OL and have the best QB in the business. The combination of Mahomes' smarts/accuracy and
DHops hands and ability to screen defenders never mind the time the two will enjoy to work things open spells trouble for
anybody trying to stop them. The Chiefs don't make a lot of personnel mistakes, unfortunately, and they'll make him an
offer he can't refuse.
That picture gets posted here any time a FA is associated with the Pats.
 
From PFF - Ranking the rosters

18. New England Patriots

Biggest strength in 2023: Defense

With the exception of recently retired Devin McCourty, the Patriots return everybody from a 2022 defense that scored seven touchdowns, intercepted 19 passes and registered 41 sacks. Not only that, but each of New England’s top three draft picks targeted defensive positions.

Biggest weakness in 2023: Wide Receiver

The Patriots lack a receiving threat that keeps defensive coordinators up at night. They replaced Jakobi Meyers with JuJu Smith-Schuster in the offseason, but aside from some late-round fliers in the draft, they didn’t do much to improve an underwhelming group this offseason.

X-Factor for 2023: QB Mac Jones

Mac Jones struggled in 2022 to the point where some fans were clamoring for rookie fourth-rounder Bailey Zappe to fully take over. Jones will be learning his third offense in three years, so it’s unclear which version of the former Heisman runner-up we’re going to see.

Rookie to watch: WR Kayshon Boutte

Before the season, Kayshon Boutte was considered the top receiving prospect in the 2023 NFL Draft. However, an ankle injury and an inability to gell into new head coach Brian Kelly’s system led to the LSU product falling to the sixth round. Playing in as thin a receiving room as New England’s, Boutte may have an opportunity to see the field sooner rather than later.

Over/Under 7.5 win total: Over

The Patriots won eight games in 2022 despite an offensive system that was openly mocked by an opposing defensive coordinator. With Bill O’Brien at the helm, expect a much more efficient product in what is expected to be a very competitive AFC East.
 
From PFF - Ranking the rosters

18. New England Patriots

Biggest strength in 2023: Defense

With the exception of recently retired Devin McCourty, the Patriots return everybody from a 2022 defense that scored seven touchdowns, intercepted 19 passes and registered 41 sacks. Not only that, but each of New England’s top three draft picks targeted defensive positions.

Biggest weakness in 2023: Wide Receiver

The Patriots lack a receiving threat that keeps defensive coordinators up at night. They replaced Jakobi Meyers with JuJu Smith-Schuster in the offseason, but aside from some late-round fliers in the draft, they didn’t do much to improve an underwhelming group this offseason.

X-Factor for 2023: QB Mac Jones

Mac Jones struggled in 2022 to the point where some fans were clamoring for rookie fourth-rounder Bailey Zappe to fully take over. Jones will be learning his third offense in three years, so it’s unclear which version of the former Heisman runner-up we’re going to see.

Rookie to watch: WR Kayshon Boutte

Before the season, Kayshon Boutte was considered the top receiving prospect in the 2023 NFL Draft. However, an ankle injury and an inability to gell into new head coach Brian Kelly’s system led to the LSU product falling to the sixth round. Playing in as thin a receiving room as New England’s, Boutte may have an opportunity to see the field sooner rather than later.

Over/Under 7.5 win total: Over

The Patriots won eight games in 2022 despite an offensive system that was openly mocked by an opposing defensive coordinator. With Bill O’Brien at the helm, expect a much more efficient product in what is expected to be a very competitive AFC East.
From PFF - Ranking the rosters This will be my reply to each of these things.

18. New England Patriots

Biggest strength in 2023: Defense This I agree with as I believe The D got stronger this off season.

With the exception of recently retired Devin McCourty, the Patriots return everybody from a 2022 defense that scored seven touchdowns, intercepted 19 passes and registered 41 sacks. Not only that, but each of New England’s top three draft picks targeted defensive positions.

Biggest weakness in 2023: Wide Receiver This I disagree with as it seems they fail to see the the quality of the WR who had to work within the Bull Shit program of Matt Patricia Thornton was put behind because of his collarbone injury He was thrown into a meatgrinder when he returned. Bourne was put into Patricia's dog house for no reason other than Matt's pride. We know nothing of Tre Nixon yet. JuJu Smith is a quality receiver who will add a lot. Gesicki is a solid receiving TE who gives Mac another good red zone target. This group is being seriously underestimated.

The Patriots lack a receiving threat that keeps defensive coordinators up at night. They replaced Jakobi Meyers with JuJu Smith-Schuster in the offseason, but aside from some late-round fliers in the draft, they didn’t do much to improve an underwhelming group this offseason. Again commenting on subjects that are yet unknown.

X-Factor for 2023: QB Mac Jones

Mac Jones struggled in 2022 to the point where some fans were clamoring for rookie fourth-rounder Bailey Zappe to fully take over. Jones will be learning his third offense in three years, so it’s unclear which version of the former Heisman runner-up we’re going to see. Any 2nd year QB would have struggled in the disaster that Jones had to work with last season

Rookie to watch: WR Kayshon Boutte

Before the season, Kayshon Boutte was considered the top receiving prospect in the 2023 NFL Draft. However, an ankle injury and an inability to gell into new head coach Brian Kelly’s system led to the LSU product falling to the sixth round. Playing in as thin a receiving room as New England’s, Boutte may have an opportunity to see the field sooner rather than later. This Kid is by far better than his last season at LSU. Coach Kelly didn't like him and it showed.

Over/Under 7.5 win total: Over I think more like a 10-12 win season

The Patriots won eight games in 2022 despite an offensive system that was openly mocked by an opposing defensive coordinator. With Bill O’Brien at the helm, expect a much more efficient product in what is expected to be a very competitive AFC East. I agree.
 
Just to keep it real, that picture has been around for a while and was also trotted out during the first days of FA. I say
that because I got fooled. Sorry, but It's bogus.

I believe we would be a better O with him in Foxboro, but I think we'll be fine when he signs with KC, which I'd
describe as a no-brainer if he wants a shot at a ring and not just the biggest possible payday.

They are very solid on the OL and have the best QB in the business. The combination of Mahomes' smarts/accuracy and
DHops hands and ability to screen defenders never mind the time the two will enjoy to work things open spells trouble for
anybody trying to stop them. The Chiefs don't make a lot of personnel mistakes, unfortunately, and they'll make him an
offer he can't refuse.

KC could benefit from having DHop for sure but do they really need him? They were 1st in total offense & 1st in points scored last year.
They may make him an offer but they'll look for a discount from him. "Hey, we're the Chiefs. How badly do you want a ring?" They have earned that right. He'd be their #1WR.

Plus DHop just signed an agent bc he wasn't getting enough calls.

Buffalo could use him, too. Diggs gets doubled too often and having DHop would change all that. But Hopkins wouldn't be their #1WR automatically since Diggs carries that moniker.

Realistically, both the Chiefs and the Bills have less than $1.5M in cap space. Could they sign Hopkins? Yes, but it would take salary maneuvers that neither team will want to do.

Some other team will offer him more money. Given a choice of $13M/ vs $18M/ which would Hopkins choose?

Other teams said to be interested are the Lions, Cowboys and Browns plus Hopkins already said he'd love to play in Baltimore with Lamar Jackson.
Each of these teams have plusses and minuses. All have cap space to offer more $$ than either Buffalo or the Chiefs.

  • Dan Campbell is turning the Lions into something special and his players love him. Jared Goff resurrected his career last year. This is an up-and-coming team - 2nd in the NFC N last yr.
  • Jerruh generally gets what he wants and playing with Dak may also appeal to Hopkins. 2nd in the NFC E last yr and Hopkins may be what Jerruh thinks is missing to get past the Eagles.
  • The Browns have Deshaun Watson, Hopkins' QB on the Texans. They did great things together but the Browns have a long way to go. 4th in the AFC N.
  • The Ravens. Who saw them going after and signing OBJ? Not me. They have the cap to sign Hopkins, too. They want Lamar to run less and giving him this WR duo would do just that and still let Lamar shine. 2nd in the AFC N a couple of games behind Cincy with Lamar hurt much of the year. Oh, my!

Maybe the Ravens should be the real front runner for Hopkins.
 
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