Looking at the Patriots 2025

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king of kings said:
Is he involved in special teams? This may help him stay on the team. By rendering one of the pass-catching-only options Expendable.
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If he's not on STs already, surely he will be given the honor to earn a position there very soon.
If returning punts or kicks don't work out, he could follow Slater and become a gunner.
 
Big/Sky/Fly said:
If the Pats put Larison and Chism on the practice squad, they're going to get pilfered. They're both way too good to get dropped.
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Probably.
But like everyone else, they'll have to earn their place on the team. If they're good enough and show the coaches their value, they'll make the team.
No one is resting on laurels this year.
 
Flagg the Wanderer said:
I don't think most are. People here were taking him in mocks in round 5 or 6 pretty regularly. I was surprised he went undrafted.
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I heard the reason he went undrafted was because of his 40 time, in the 4.7s.

Julian Edelman’s 40 time was 4.52
 
Flagg the Wanderer said:
Yes, his straight line speed is middle of the road for a linebacker.
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lol

Chism and Kupp have similar athleticism for quickness. Neither has good top end speed but Kupp is 1/10 of a second faster in the 40. 10 & 20 yd splits are similar.
Kupp is 3" taller and 11 lbs heavier. Kupp's success in the NFL is an outlier for someone with those poor athletic traits. Kupp has savvy, smarts and determination in spades.
I think Chism will need to match Kupp's mental toughness to get his foot in the door. His path will be worth following.
(Sorry. I couldn't get rid of the Zay Jones X post below)


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chevss454 said:
Chism and Kupp have similar athleticism for quickness. Neither has good top end speed but Kupp is 1/10 of a second faster in the 40. 10 & 20 yd splits are similar.
Kupp is 3" taller and 11 lbs heavier. Kupp's success in the NFL is an outlier for someone with those poor athletic traits. Kupp has savvy, smarts and determination in spades.
I think Chism will need to match Kupp's mental toughness to get his foot in the door. His path will be worth following.


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His short speed is very short. Even with the bad 40, I'm surprised that the 10 yard split isn't better. But my understanding is that his acceleration is outstanding, but not elite. His deceleration/stopping speed, though, is crazy bordering on spooky. And maybe that's the explanation.
 
Flagg the Wanderer said:
His short speed is very short. Even with the bad 40, I'm surprised that the 10 yard split isn't better. But my understanding is that his acceleration is outstanding, but not elite. His deceleration/stopping speed, though, is crazy bordering on spooky. And maybe that's the explanation.
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Stopping/starting are major components of the agility drills. Deceleration is taken into account in 3-cone and short shuttle times.
 
sg14 said:
I heard the reason he went undrafted was because of his 40 time, in the 4.7s.

Julian Edelman’s 40 time was 4.52
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Yes he is not a WR who can just outrun the DBs but he is amazingly quick and can stop and start and change direction faster than any one I have seen in many years.
 
chevss454 said:
3-cone times
Edelman 6.62
Kupp 6.75
Chism 6.77
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So...not quicker than a squirrel, but still quick. I imagine that a "middle-aged chipmunk dad" would be quick but not as quick as a squirrel.

Proposed nickname = "MAC Daddy"
 
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"I think we'll be much more competitive this year," Wolf said. "I don't like to put expectations on it, but we did a lot of things this offseason that were advantageous to us moving forward."

Two scouts with ties to the AFC East agree.

"This is the best offseason they've had in a while. I feel like they're the Bills' biggest threat," one scout said.

Specifically, the scout noted that while the Patriots paid a team-record contract for Williams, he is still an ascending player, and a defensive-tackle tandem of Williams and Christian Barmore (assuming a return to full health from a blood clot diagnosis) could be the best in the AFC.

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The Patriots have revamped their front office, coaching personnel and roster after back-to-back 4-13 seasons in hopes of closing the gap in the AFC East.
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