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Flagg the Wanderer
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I don't think most are. People here were taking him in mocks in round 5 or 6 pretty regularly. I was surprised he went undrafted.
If he's not on STs already, surely he will be given the honor to earn a position there very soon.
If returning punts or kicks don't work out, he could follow Slater and become a gunner.
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If the Pats put Larison and Chism on the practice squad, they're going to get pilfered. They're both way too good to get dropped.
Probably.
But like everyone else, they'll have to earn their place on the team. If they're good enough and show the coaches their value, they'll make the team.
No one is resting on laurels this year.
I heard the reason he went undrafted was because of his 40 time, in the 4.7s.
Julian Edelman’s 40 time was 4.52
Flagg the Wanderer
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Yes, his straight line speed is middle of the road for a linebacker.
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Chism and Kupp have similar athleticism for quickness. Neither has good top end speed but Kupp is 1/10 of a second faster in the 40. 10 & 20 yd splits are similar.
Kupp is 3" taller and 11 lbs heavier. Kupp's success in the NFL is an outlier for someone with those poor athletic traits. Kupp has savvy, smarts and determination in spades.
I think Chism will need to match Kupp's mental toughness to get his foot in the door. His path will be worth following.
(Sorry. I couldn't get rid of the Zay Jones X post below)
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Flagg the Wanderer
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His short speed is very short. Even with the bad 40, I'm surprised that the 10 yard split isn't better. But my understanding is that his acceleration is outstanding, but not elite. His deceleration/stopping speed, though, is crazy bordering on spooky. And maybe that's the explanation.
Stopping/starting are major components of the agility drills. Deceleration is taken into account in 3-cone and short shuttle times.
3-cone times
Edelman 6.62
Kupp 6.75
Chism 6.77
Edelman 6.62
Kupp 6.75
Chism 6.77
Sean- son of Lifer
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Yes he is not a WR who can just outrun the DBs but he is amazingly quick and can stop and start and change direction faster than any one I have seen in many years.
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One of those guys who plays faster than his forty time or 3 cone time. This video show some of what he can do.
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So...not quicker than a squirrel, but still quick. I imagine that a "middle-aged chipmunk dad" would be quick but not as quick as a squirrel.
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Bedard has the Pats winning 11 games this year.
He appears to be ahead of schedule both on and off the field.
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He appears to be ahead of schedule both on and off the field.
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"I think we'll be much more competitive this year," Wolf said. "I don't like to put expectations on it, but we did a lot of things this offseason that were advantageous to us moving forward."
Two scouts with ties to the AFC East agree.
"This is the best offseason they've had in a while. I feel like they're the Bills' biggest threat," one scout said.
Specifically, the scout noted that while the Patriots paid a team-record contract for Williams, he is still an ascending player, and a defensive-tackle tandem of Williams and Christian Barmore (assuming a return to full health from a blood clot diagnosis) could be the best in the AFC.
State of the Patriots: How close are the Patriots to returning to winning?
The Patriots have revamped their front office, coaching personnel and roster after back-to-back 4-13 seasons in hopes of closing the gap in the AFC East.
Flagg the Wanderer
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A couple thoughts that have been rolling around my head:
1) If and when Wilson takes over at center, and depending who wins the battle for guard there is the potential for some serious push in the middle of the OL. I was thinking about Maye's strength and explosiveness/suddenness behind Conley/Wilson/Onwenu for a tush push play. That's very close to 1000 lbs. of meat (and honestly I think more - OL weights are reported low) leading the way, all three of them noted as nasty when blocking downhill. Add in Campbell's quick release and skill with reach/seal blocks to seal off a DT in the G/T gap and there may be something there the team can lean on.
2) I have a concern about Maye that I haven't seen discussed. He's inconsistent, spraying passes pretty regularly. That's not good, but typically that's a symptom of poor mechanics and especially footwork. I wonder if he's a little lazy with precision footwork, and doing it exactly the same way each time. His work ethic seems strong in terms of the time he puts in, but it's not practice that makes perfect, it's that perfect practice makes perfect. I'm reminded of Brady's "every single time" commercial.
View: https://youtu.be/4hScgyXu_9c?si=RaqcUQz2SYD1c8q1
Is Maye dedicated to that kind of precision and repeatability? My inclination is to say no, partially because he is at heart an improvisational player. He needs to be precise and consistent with his footwork in the pocket, and use that as the platform the improvisation springs from. I love Maye's potential, but I'm very concerned about his level of discipline.
Most improvisational players (and there are parallels to this in most fields) love that part of their game and often let the boring fundamentals lag to whatever degree. Exceptions to this are rare, and tend to be truly elite, like Rodgers and Josh Allen. But even with them you see a tendency to have the fundamentals break down when they're needed most - even with some pretty outstanding teams around them, those two have combined for how many Lombardis again?
3) I want to see a practice or two before I firm this up, but I think CJ Dippre might make this roster as TE3, but also as FB1. He's a little tall for a FB, but there are many spots on the depth chart that are going to be hard cuts, and I think Brock Lampe will have to impress a lot both at FB and on special teams to make the coaches dedicate a spot for him. Unlike every other TE on the roster, Dippre is a nasty blocker. The part that makes me concerned about this take is that TE is a hard spot to learn, and learning a second position on top of it may be too much to ask. That said, if he's able to focus on "blocking TE" as sort of subset of TE generally...not impossible.
With respect to some of the roster logjams, where are the places they could save a roster spot? I don't see many. Maybe Alex Austin saves them a spot if he really has the flexibility to play both slot and outside...as long as Marcus Jones can also do both. But "you can never have too many guys who can cover." I'm concerned about shorting DB depth. That can leave you in an ugly spot, especially considering that both starting outside corners have significant injury histories.
1) If and when Wilson takes over at center, and depending who wins the battle for guard there is the potential for some serious push in the middle of the OL. I was thinking about Maye's strength and explosiveness/suddenness behind Conley/Wilson/Onwenu for a tush push play. That's very close to 1000 lbs. of meat (and honestly I think more - OL weights are reported low) leading the way, all three of them noted as nasty when blocking downhill. Add in Campbell's quick release and skill with reach/seal blocks to seal off a DT in the G/T gap and there may be something there the team can lean on.
2) I have a concern about Maye that I haven't seen discussed. He's inconsistent, spraying passes pretty regularly. That's not good, but typically that's a symptom of poor mechanics and especially footwork. I wonder if he's a little lazy with precision footwork, and doing it exactly the same way each time. His work ethic seems strong in terms of the time he puts in, but it's not practice that makes perfect, it's that perfect practice makes perfect. I'm reminded of Brady's "every single time" commercial.
View: https://youtu.be/4hScgyXu_9c?si=RaqcUQz2SYD1c8q1
Is Maye dedicated to that kind of precision and repeatability? My inclination is to say no, partially because he is at heart an improvisational player. He needs to be precise and consistent with his footwork in the pocket, and use that as the platform the improvisation springs from. I love Maye's potential, but I'm very concerned about his level of discipline.
Most improvisational players (and there are parallels to this in most fields) love that part of their game and often let the boring fundamentals lag to whatever degree. Exceptions to this are rare, and tend to be truly elite, like Rodgers and Josh Allen. But even with them you see a tendency to have the fundamentals break down when they're needed most - even with some pretty outstanding teams around them, those two have combined for how many Lombardis again?
3) I want to see a practice or two before I firm this up, but I think CJ Dippre might make this roster as TE3, but also as FB1. He's a little tall for a FB, but there are many spots on the depth chart that are going to be hard cuts, and I think Brock Lampe will have to impress a lot both at FB and on special teams to make the coaches dedicate a spot for him. Unlike every other TE on the roster, Dippre is a nasty blocker. The part that makes me concerned about this take is that TE is a hard spot to learn, and learning a second position on top of it may be too much to ask. That said, if he's able to focus on "blocking TE" as sort of subset of TE generally...not impossible.
With respect to some of the roster logjams, where are the places they could save a roster spot? I don't see many. Maybe Alex Austin saves them a spot if he really has the flexibility to play both slot and outside...as long as Marcus Jones can also do both. But "you can never have too many guys who can cover." I'm concerned about shorting DB depth. That can leave you in an ugly spot, especially considering that both starting outside corners have significant injury histories.