Looking at the Patriots 2025

At tackle, we don't really need an All Pro talent. Just competency. I'll take 2 "good" tackles over 1 great one.

I don't disagree, but I don't want to swing in the top 5 for a "good" player......and I think at best that is what you are getting at the top of this draft on the Offensive side.
 
I don't disagree, but I don't want to swing in the top 5 for a "good" player......and I think at best that is what you are getting at the top of this draft on the Offensive side.
I'd love to see them trade back with a team that's desperate, get a really good OT, and another first round pick.
 
I'd love to see them trade back with a team that's desperate, get a really good OT, and another first round pick.
I like the thought,
I'm going to base this post on where we're picking now ,which is 4th.
If we're going to take either of the top two LT's we cant go back too much .
Looking ahead to the draft, I'm not seeing another team that would potentially move up 5-6 spots and give us a first next year.
IMHO If we move down beyond 10-12ish we wouldn't get either of the top rated (and rates can change) tackles in the draft. JMO...
 
I like the thought,
I'm going to base this post on where we're picking now ,which is 4th.
If we're going to take either of the top two LT's we cant go back too much .
Looking ahead to the draft, I'm not seeing another team that would potentially move up 5-6 spots and give us a first next year.
IMHO If we move down beyond 10-12ish we wouldn't get either of the top rated (and rates can change) tackles in the draft. JMO...
Pats cant' "F" this up but I fear they could.
agree with your thoughts on this and would rather slightly "over draft" a good OT vs. risk getting cute and drafting 4 guards.
I do like the idea of getting 2 "good" OT's vs. 1 "great" one as you don't know how any college player will do in the NFL and even a great one can get injured and be out

I'd like to think if we start the O-line in 2025 with Andrews, Strange, Owenu [sic?] and then whatever we come up with in draft and free agency we might be getting somewhere.
 
I don't disagree, but I don't want to swing in the top 5 for a "good" player......and I think at best that is what you are getting at the top of this draft on the Offensive side.
That will be a big decision up to the draft.
I was on the best player plan for a while but then we also “have the guy” at QB, do you risk his health?
 
That will be a big decision up to the draft.
I was on the best player plan for a while but then we also “have the guy” at QB, do you risk his health?

On the oline side, if there was a Blue Chip LT available I'd be all over it. As it stands now we should just look to get the oline to average, and from worst that shouldn't be that hard, in FA. Then get the most talented players possible in the draft.
 
Trade the first pick for Ja'Mar Chase?
 
Trade the first pick for Ja'Mar Chase?
No........Great player but He's going on 2nd contract (and yes Pats have cap space ) Pats have other needs and If you want WR#1 TET from arizona is the guy to take and you have him for 5 years on a rookie contract
 
No........Great player but He's going on 2nd contract (and yes Pats have cap space ) Pats have other needs and If you want WR#1 TET from arizona is the guy to take and you have him for 5 years on a rookie contract
Isn't Tet kinda slow? He's tall and can catch, but he doesn't seem explosive, even in highlights. I haven't looked closely or started scouting him or anything, just at a glance.
 
No........Great player but He's going on 2nd contract (and yes Pats have cap space ) Pats have other needs and If you want WR#1 TET from arizona is the guy to take and you have him for 5 years on a rookie contract

I think Tet is very overrated in a bad WR class, if our #1 for Chase was on the table you take it no question about it. There are very few people in the NFL I would trade #3 overall for, Chase would be on that list.
 
There are reports that Garret Wilson will ask the Jets to trade him.
 
Per Phil Perry,
If you were to move on from AVP, it's unlikely anyone would really want to sign on in his place when the head coach may be fired soon.

As for the DC position, the only defense that Mayo knows is the BB defense. So Mayo would want another defensive coach from the same tree, and who would that be? Perry did mention coach Graham. Unless they just go with a totally different system.

Perry also spoke to an NFL associate with the Cardinals who stated that the only worthy defensive player was Gonzo. And the defensive talent was worse than the offensive.
 
Per Phil Perry,
If you were to move on from AVP, it's unlikely anyone would really want to sign on in his place when the head coach may be fired soon.

As for the DC position, the only defense that Mayo knows is the BB defense. So Mayo would want another defensive coach from the same tree, and who would that be? Perry did mention coach Graham. Unless they just go with a totally different system.

Perry also spoke to an NFL associate with the Cardinals who stated that the only worthy defensive player was Gonzo. And the defensive talent was worse than the offensive.

I've been thinking about it for 6-7 weeks and I agree with the AVP part. Replacing him with anyone better would be near impossible. The best solution I see is to ask AVP to take some
continuing education time to study some of the better offensive schemes in the league. He could adopt some of those plays or series of plays since 1 play often sets up 2 or 3 other plays. See what he comes up with from 4 hours of film study of successful plays from the Lions, Rams, Packers and 9ers. It could broaden his outlook and show him how good offensive schemes are designed so he can get out of his rut. I mean, other teams can run successful screen plays, why can't the Patriots? I haven't seen the Pats use a single play with a trailing WR all year.
How about flooding a zone or using rubs like every other team?

As for the D...Mayo may only know the BB defense but this D that Covington is coaching isn't BB's D. I say that bc the front 7 play is much too soft. On pass rushes the DL players bull rush 2-3 yds hard then slow down to wait for the QB to react. They don't individually try to shed their man to get to the QB unless the OL makes a mistake or the QB bolts. Our LBs don't fill gaps on running plays or they fill the wrong gaps. Go back and look at that Cook 50 yd TD run in the Buffalo game - it's a perfect example. Another problem is setting the edge has become a pipe dream. Keion White, who was ok last year, has become pathetic. Judon is missed. Wise used to be good but he's regressed since last year. He and Jonathan Jones are FAs after this season. Jones has been a valuable piece for a long time but he's 32 and may not be coming back. Just facing reality. Wise is easily replaceable which makes him a jag. Austin is also a FA and he's worthy of keeping, imo.

It's easy to say our front 7 talent (size, strength, athleticism, speed) isn't good enough to match up and that's probably true but they performed better last year. Coaching. Their regression is undeniable. LB talent is the worst I remember going back to the early '80s. Bentley is our best but he's often injured and at full health he would be a backup on most other clubs because
he lacks speed & can't cover well enough. This offseason the Pats need 2 big strong run stoppers on the DL, 2 speedier LBs who can tackle the ball and 2 CBs, 1 of whom is frontline caliber.
That's a total of 5 new starter capable players out of 11.
 
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