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TommyD420 said:
Hypothetically, of course.

Peppers admitted in open court he was in possession of cocaine for his personal use, and this was adjudicated in court. (This is not hypothetical, this happened)

Hypothetically, the Patriots would have been testing him from the moment he set foot back in the facility, outside of league tests.
Hypothetically, they hope he gets help, and don't want to ruin his life by pulling a Just Say No and leaking a positive test to the press.
Hypothetically, they were willing to find a trade partner if one was out there, and hypothetically, if Peppers had been able to avoid pissing dirty in mandatory tests, no one would have needed to know. No suspension, no cops.
Hypothetically, the Patriots knew this was an ongoing issue, and he was never going to start opening day, because hypothetically, there was a hypothetical positive test the week after the Minnesota trip.
Hypothetically, the reason Peppers played a good portion of the Giants game was to give him a chance to showcase to the league (and didn't do particularly well, honestly).
So hypothetically, the Patriots cut someone in order to avoid suspension and rehab during the season, hypothetically giving Peppers the chance to hypothetically get clean.

Hypothetically.

Hypothetically Giardi's 'no off-field issues' was a direct response from Hypothetically Wolf when asked a specific question about legal issues. In this hypothetical scenario, there are no legal issues.

All of this is hypothetical, of course, and shouldn't be accepted as fact. Hypothetically, don't be surprised if Peppers hypothetically has nothing very negative to say outside of very vague terms about his release.
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All possible, we’ll have a pretty good idea if he remains unsigned. Other than that, it makes little sense, all I read during camp was that he was one of the better players on the field throughout?
 
OT Thayer Munford to the practice squad. (Farewell, Jack Conley)
Rookie DT Eric Gregory off waivers from Cincinnati to the 53. (Farewell to Peppers).
 
From M. Reiss

4. Landry's motivation: After spending the first seven seasons of his career with the Titans, and being released by the team in March, outside linebacker Harold Landry III put together a preseason in New England that caught the attention of defensive coordinator Terrell Williams.

"He looks like a guy that has something to prove," said Williams, who also coached Landry in Tennessee.

Williams added that he also sees "a more mature player."

5. Ponder's decision: Undrafted free agent outside linebacker Elijah Ponder (Cal Poly) was one of the surprise stories of training camp, earning a roster spot by flashing as an edge player on defense and as a special teams player that includes a role on the punt-protection unit.

Ponder had options to consider after the draft but said after conversations with Vrabel and outside linebackers coach Mike Smith, he believed New England was a place he would get a fair shot to make the team, which was his top priority. The Patriots guaranteed him $115,000 in his contract, the fifth-highest total among the team's undrafted players.

6. Swinson's fall: Ponder's rise coincided with fellow rookie outside linebacker, Bradyn Swinson, as one of the team's surprising cuts after being selected in the fifth round out of LSU (No. 146).

The Patriots and Rams were the only teams to cut fifth-round picks, with Los Angeles letting go of linebacker Chris Paul Jr. (No. 172). No other team claimed Swinson, who wound up back on the Patriots' practice squad as Vrabel wasn't kidding when he preached to players that it didn't matter how they arrived and all roles would have to be earned.

7. Waiver wire: The Patriots were the only team to put in waiver claims on former Giants quarterback Tommy DeVito and Rams cornerback Charles Woods, and they joined the Bears in putting in a claim on Cardinals cornerback Jaylon Jones.

The Patriots had priority over the Bears for Jones, but once they knew they landed Woods, they rescinded the claim. One reason they might have preferred Woods is that Streicher, the vice president of football operations and strategy, worked closely with him in Los Angeles last year, with Woods saying that Streicher spent time as his dedicated coach as a gunner on special teams.

10. Did you know? Of the 53 players on the current roster, only 27 were part of the 2024 roster or practice squad. That's a turnover of 49.1%.
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Latest from Foxborough: Patriots cut roster down, invite Bruins' Marco Sturm to practice

The Patriots made a series of interesting roster cuts this past week, even after the 53-man roster was released.
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chevss454 said:
From M. Reiss

4. Landry's motivation: After spending the first seven seasons of his career with the Titans, and being released by the team in March, outside linebacker Harold Landry III put together a preseason in New England that caught the attention of defensive coordinator Terrell Williams.

"He looks like a guy that has something to prove," said Williams, who also coached Landry in Tennessee.

Williams added that he also sees "a more mature player."

5. Ponder's decision: Undrafted free agent outside linebacker Elijah Ponder (Cal Poly) was one of the surprise stories of training camp, earning a roster spot by flashing as an edge player on defense and as a special teams player that includes a role on the punt-protection unit.

Ponder had options to consider after the draft but said after conversations with Vrabel and outside linebackers coach Mike Smith, he believed New England was a place he would get a fair shot to make the team, which was his top priority. The Patriots guaranteed him $115,000 in his contract, the fifth-highest total among the team's undrafted players.

6. Swinson's fall: Ponder's rise coincided with fellow rookie outside linebacker, Bradyn Swinson, as one of the team's surprising cuts after being selected in the fifth round out of LSU (No. 146).

The Patriots and Rams were the only teams to cut fifth-round picks, with Los Angeles letting go of linebacker Chris Paul Jr. (No. 172). No other team claimed Swinson, who wound up back on the Patriots' practice squad as Vrabel wasn't kidding when he preached to players that it didn't matter how they arrived and all roles would have to be earned.

7. Waiver wire: The Patriots were the only team to put in waiver claims on former Giants quarterback Tommy DeVito and Rams cornerback Charles Woods, and they joined the Bears in putting in a claim on Cardinals cornerback Jaylon Jones.

The Patriots had priority over the Bears for Jones, but once they knew they landed Woods, they rescinded the claim. One reason they might have preferred Woods is that Streicher, the vice president of football operations and strategy, worked closely with him in Los Angeles last year, with Woods saying that Streicher spent time as his dedicated coach as a gunner on special teams.

10. Did you know? Of the 53 players on the current roster, only 27 were part of the 2024 roster or practice squad. That's a turnover of 49.1%.
www.espn.com

Latest from Foxborough: Patriots cut roster down, invite Bruins' Marco Sturm to practice

The Patriots made a series of interesting roster cuts this past week, even after the 53-man roster was released.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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2000 vibes
 
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Guide to the NFL's rookie class: Who is flying under the radar? Who will win OROY, DROY?

Here's everything you need to know about this group of first-years, including Rookie of the Year front-runners, fantasy favorites and QB updates.
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Mike Clay's projected rookie class stat leaders

Passing yards

1. Cam Ward: 3,821
2. Jaxson Dart: 1,990
3. Tyler Shough: 1,647

Passing TDs

1. Cam Ward: 23
2. Jaxson Dart: 10
3. Tyler Shough: 8

Passing interceptions

1. Cam Ward: 14
2. Jaxson Dart: 8
3. Tyler Shough: 6

QB rushing yards

1. Cam Ward: 298
2. Jaxson Dart: 183
3. Tyler Shough: 114

Rushing yards

1. Ashton Jeanty: 1,248
2. Omarion Hampton: 1,144
3. TreVeyon Henderson: 992

Rushing TDs

1. Omarion Hampton: 11
2. Ashton Jeanty: 8
3. TreVeyon Henderson: 6

RB receiving yards

1. Ashton Jeanty: 484
2. RJ Harvey: 351
3. TreVeyon Henderson: 329

Receiving yards

1. Tetairoa McMillan: 1,027
2. Travis Hunter: 967
3. Matthew Golden: 957

Receiving TDs

1. Matthew Golden: 7
T-2. Tetairoa McMillan: 6
T-2. Travis Hunter: 6
 
chevss454 said:
www.espn.com

Guide to the NFL's rookie class: Who is flying under the radar? Who will win OROY, DROY?

Here's everything you need to know about this group of first-years, including Rookie of the Year front-runners, fantasy favorites and QB updates.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

Mike Clay's projected rookie class stat leaders

Passing yards

1. Cam Ward: 3,821
2. Jaxson Dart: 1,990
3. Tyler Shough: 1,647

Passing TDs

1. Cam Ward: 23
2. Jaxson Dart: 10
3. Tyler Shough: 8

Passing interceptions

1. Cam Ward: 14
2. Jaxson Dart: 8
3. Tyler Shough: 6

QB rushing yards

1. Cam Ward: 298
2. Jaxson Dart: 183
3. Tyler Shough: 114

Rushing yards

1. Ashton Jeanty: 1,248
2. Omarion Hampton: 1,144
3. TreVeyon Henderson: 992

Rushing TDs

1. Omarion Hampton: 11
2. Ashton Jeanty: 8
3. TreVeyon Henderson: 6

RB receiving yards

1. Ashton Jeanty: 484
2. RJ Harvey: 351
3. TreVeyon Henderson: 329

Receiving yards

1. Tetairoa McMillan: 1,027
2. Travis Hunter: 967
3. Matthew Golden: 957

Receiving TDs

1. Matthew Golden: 7
T-2. Tetairoa McMillan: 6
T-2. Travis Hunter: 6
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Henderson will easily have 500 yards receiving, I’d think.
 
Undertaker #59* said:
Kind of and it needed to be done, but this team doesn't have the core of talent that the 2000 team had to build off of. So many of those great players in the early 2000s were from the 90s teams.
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That is very true. But that great talent also wasn't winning games the way they did after the purge. Just their being better coached should make a huge difference.
 
HSanders said:
That is very true. But that great talent also wasn't winning games the way they did after the purge. Just their being better coached should make a huge difference.
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You would think that is true but I am concerned that this years team is half way through a transition, hard to believe everything will function smoothly.

Major change on defensive style.
New offense without an experienced QB.
 
Yeah they are another year away I think. No depth at most positions. That being said, I think it's reasonable to hope for an 8 win season. Outside chance of one and done as a wildcard.
 
sg14 said:
You would think that is true but I am concerned that this years team is half way through a transition, hard to believe everything will function smoothly.

Major change on defensive style.
New offense without an experienced QB.
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I agree with you and @Undertaker #59* with his comment about being about a year away. They were just so bad last year I can't ever remember hating watching them as much as I did last year. I don't think we're gonna hate watching them this year.
 
HSanders said:
I agree with you and @Undertaker #59* with his comment about being about a year away. They were just so bad last year I can't ever remember hating watching them as much as I did last year. I don't think we're gonna hate watching them this year.
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I hope you're right. A lot of it depends on the rookies and that's a big ask, especially for the skill players.
Where was WR Kyle Williams all preseason? I expected more from him.
Campbell and Wilson protecting Maye's blind side is a little scary over a 17 game season. Campbell did fine; Wilson was yanked. Concerning.
Our rookie starting S, Craig Woodson has a lot to learn.
I'd like to see Chism, who I consider a tone setter, get on the field but he has experienced WRs in front of him.
Henderson is only rookie I give full faith in. He showed out against 1s and 2s.

I see boys having to become men in a short time. Fingers crossed.

Go Pats!
 
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PatsFan09 said:
WTF is up with Gonzo and his hamstring? He’s been sitting for what, 5-6 weeks? Jesus. He’s incredibly soft.
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Yeah, he won't be playing game 1. Not practicing.

Durability is becoming an issue with him.
My guess is he tried to push it too soon and re-injured the hammy. (Vrabel had to yell at him to get him off the bike last week)

The Raiders are a run heavy team so we should be ok without him for game 1.
Yes, they have Jakobi Meyers and the ghost of Amari Cooper but neither are fast. Carlson can keep a close eye on Meyers who is sneaky good against zone. Austin on Cooper.

I am worried about covering Brock Bowers and containing Ashton Jeanty's runs and receiving yards. Bowers will be a nightmare to cover.
 
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HSanders said:
I agree with you and @Undertaker #59* with his comment about being about a year away. They were just so bad last year I can't ever remember hating watching them as much as I did last year. I don't think we're gonna hate watching them this year.
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You mean having realistic expectations. Making the playoffs should be the goal. You're right, we won't hate to watch this team this year. Vrabel overhauled the defense. The biggest addition on offense was signing Diggs, who's coming off a torn ACL. We had a great draft, but that's putting a lot of pressure on them to make an immediate impact. I agree with UT that 8 games is a realistic win total.
 
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The Pats have signed C Brenden Jaimes to the practice squad and released C Alec Lindstrom.

Jaimes played college football at Nebraska and was a fifth-round pick of the Los Angeles Chargers in 2021. He appeared in 46 games with the Chargers, making three starts. He was on the Tennessee Titans' practice squad this offseason and preseason.

Lindstrom went undrafted in the 2022 NFL draft and first broke into the NFL when he signed with the Dallas Cowboys as a free agent. He spent most of his time on the Cowboys' practice squad, giving the organization center depth. He also played in the UFL with the Memphis Showboats.
 
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