Mac Jones Is Our QB1

Jeff Saturday- "Before it was like BB was playing Chess and everyone else was playing Checkers. Now it's like everyone else is playing Chess and BB just punches you in the mouth!" :rofl:
 
Jeff Saturday- "Before it was like BB was playing Chess and everyone else was playing Checkers. Now it's like everyone else is playing Chess and BB just punches you in the mouth!" :rofl:
I like Saturday because he's fair, but nobody plays chess other than BB, and if they do, they're twisting themselves off the board.
 
Player (Draft Position)GamesAttemptsCompletionsYardsTDsINTsRating
Trevor Lawrence (1)
9​
331​
192​
1983​
8​
9​
72.1​
Zach Wilson (2)
6​
181​
104​
1168​
4​
9​
63.5​
Trey Lance (3)
4​
48​
25​
354​
3​
1​
88.4​
Justin Fields (11)
9​
187​
111​
1282​
4​
8​
69.4​
Totals
28​
747​
432​
4787​
19​
27​
70.4​
Mac Jones (15)
10
323
223
2333
13
7
94.1
 
Player (Draft Position)GamesAttemptsCompletionsYardsTDsINTsRating
Trevor Lawrence (1)
9​
331​
192​
1983​
8​
9​
72.1​
Zach Wilson (2)
6​
181​
104​
1168​
4​
9​
63.5​
Trey Lance (3)
4​
48​
25​
354​
3​
1​
88.4​
Justin Fields (11)
9​
187​
111​
1282​
4​
8​
69.4​
Totals
28​
747​
432​
4787​
19​
27​
70.4​
Mac Jones (15)
10
323
223
2333
13
7
94.1
Displayed in that context, his performance has been even better than I thought, and I've thought all along he's been excellent overall. Thanks for this.
 
Reading the hot takes on 2BillsDrive he is so in their heads it’s not even funny. There’s at least 3-4 threads going about the Pats and the takes are all over the map but most of those fans don’t consider the Pats a threat. The Pats wrecked a lot of those fans over the years and total domination over the Pats for the next 20 years is the only thing that will cure them. TFF!


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While within the ignorant media they seem to be jumping on the wagon en masse, good old Nick Wright is the same old hater he always was. Post Cleveland he was parading this cute patronization: in fairness, I must concede that Jones on Sunday was the best qb who passed for under 200 yrs, but...

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While within the ignorant media they seem to be jumping on the wagon en masse, good old Nick Wright is the same old hater he always was. Post Cleveland he was parading this cute patronization: in fairness, I must concede that Jones on Sunday was the best qb who passed for under 200 yrs, but...

:rofl:
Well, he still has that face so...
 
Revisiting an article from TheAthletic by Jeff Howe a month before the draft that sorts out the top 5 QBs in the draft from a Patriots perspective.
Riddick nailed his evaluation of Mac Jones.

The Patriots won’t force themselves on a quarterback, but they will exhaust the process to determine if any are right for them. Belichick’s task force includes offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels, staff assistant Matt Patricia and key personnel executives Dave Ziegler, Eliot Wolf and Matt Groh. They’ve attended pro days, dissected game tape and interviewed the players, coaches and other key figures from their background.

While this crop of quarterbacks has been hyped at an all-time level, there’s still a major projection element to consider. For Lance, who is as physically gifted as any in the group and went undefeated with just one interception in 17 collegiate starts, the question is how he’ll adapt to a huge jump in competition from North Dakota State. For Fields, athletically imposing with the mind to match, how much of his success was a byproduct of the elite talent around him at Ohio State? For Jones, should the intangibles significantly outweigh the physical shortcomings relative to the other four quarterbacks?

“When you start talking about, is this the best class, how could anyone know?” Lombardi said. “Do you think this class is better than (Dan) Marino, (Jim) Kelly, (John) Elway (in 1983)? Do you think there are three Hall of Famers in this class?”

Belichick doesn’t need to decide where the class ranks historically. He more directly needs to determine whether any of the quarterbacks are worth the massive investment.

And Belichick has an advantage in that regard.

“Bill is a very astute evaluator of talent,” said Riddick, who also played for Belichick’s Browns in the 1990s. “He sees what Justin Fields has going for him. You think he wouldn’t love to coach him? Of course, he would. And of course, he would love to coach Trey Lance. But I think Mac just seems to fit with what I believe would give them the quickest return on their investment in that particular system.”

The Patriots’ quarterback priorities are fairly standard. Make smart decisions. Protect the ball. Throw it accurately. Compete. Play with toughness. Lead the team. Be the hardest worker.

Lance, Fields and Jones check each of those boxes.

“You’ve got to know what you’re looking for before you can decide what you want,” Lombardi said. “That’s where most people make mistakes. Most of the people making the decisions don’t even know what they’re looking for. They’re grading the talent. They’re grading the production.”

Plus, Belichick is the sole decision-maker. While his inner circle includes five other minds, the quarterback call is Belichick’s to make. Robert Kraft is a supportive owner who doesn’t meddle in personnel decisions, and Belichick doesn’t have to worry about other executives who are angling for power behind his back.

Those are some of the chief factors for organizations that misfire on a high-end quarterback – a coach and general manager who aren’t necessarily allies, a coach and newly hired coordinator whose offensive philosophy doesn’t align as it should, an owner who wants to force a decision, a personnel director who gets too political with the owner and tries to undermine a general manager.

Those landmines don’t exist at Gillette Stadium.

“The reason there are so many busts is the sense of desperation, the sense of wishful thinking,” Lombardi said. “People are wishing for it to happen. There are too many people involved in the decision who don’t know what it takes to play.

“(Belichick) knows what he wants. Josh knows what he wants. Those guys know what they want. Then they’ll adapt whatever they get to what the guy can do. They would be different if they had Jimmy Garoppolo. They would be different if they got Trey Lance. They would be adaptive.”

The Jones quandary​

Jones has been heavily linked to the Patriots, partly due to his time with University of Alabama coach Nick Saban, one of Belichick’s longtime friends since their days with the Cleveland Browns.

Jones is a unique evaluation, though. Purely from a physical standpoint, he doesn’t have any elite traits that are coveted from a top-10 pick. But above the shoulders, there are evaluators who have Jones as the best quarterback in the class – character, leadership, toughness, processing, football IQ. He is off the charts from a mental standpoint. Everyone who meets Jones falls in love with him.

Jones is an accurate passer. And while he won’t run away from anyone, he’s got enough pocket presence to keep his feet moving.
And even though Alabama’s offensive line was loaded with NFL talent, Jones proved at times last season he could take a beating and rally for the next play.

“I believe this: we have become so conditioned to believe unless you have Patrick Mahomes or a guy like Deshaun Watson or Russell Wilson who can run around and make it look like schoolyard football that you can’t win in the NFL,” Riddick said. “The position is about decision-making and accuracy. That’s what Mac Jones is. That is always going to be the case at quarterback. It’s still what the position will always come back to. That’s one of Mac’s strong points.

“He doesn’t have Patrick Mahomes’ arm. He doesn’t have Deshaun Watson’s arm. He doesn’t have Zach Wilson’s arm. But what he has is the ability to make quick decisions and put the ball on people in a timely fashion that allows them to do what they do. That’s what football is really all about, isn’t it? We’re so much into the aesthetic aspects of football and the fantasy football aspects of football that we get enamored with the guys who have great physical traits. The football graveyard is littered with people who had great physical traits but couldn’t play the game in a team setting. We forget about that every year around draft time because we become enamored with height, weight, speed and arm strength.”

So here’s the question: Did 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan fall in love with Jones to the point that he traded three first-rounders and a third- to select him? If so, it won’t matter how the Patriots view Jones.

But if Jones slips past the third pick, there’s no telling where he’ll land. That factor may also have something to do with how much sway a coach has in the draft selection.

More often than not, it’s become obvious that coaches like Jones more than scouts and executives. That’s because coaches tend to think a little differently, seeing the intangibles and believing in their ability to scheme up everything around him to drive offensive success. Executives – and this isn’t universally true, but it’s come up enough during the Jones research – are typically more focused on the physical traits, where Jones falls short compared to Lance and Fields.

It’s a unique dichotomy. Which team will prefer the mental traits they can’t necessarily see?

“Quite honestly, Mac Jones screams Patriots to me. He just does,” Riddick said.
“I just don’t think Bill is going to get his shot at Mac Jones.”

 
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