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This is a hot button topic, and only going to grow and expand as the election nears. Needs its own thread.

The left was quick to crow about the Trump interview with Axios, how he took some lumps.

Well, dont ya know, we’ve got some quaint meager contractions and walk backs once the interviewer got himself more learned.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/0...ar-more-radical-than-the-media-will-tell-you/

Democrats’ Election Plans Are Far More Radical Than The Media Will Tell You

Sending millions of ballots across states based on outdated voter rolls is just one of numerous controversial ideas being signed into law by Democrats while the media covers for them.

Jonah Gottschalk
Democrats are planning a collection of unnecessary, dangerous, and wildly unpopular election changes for November, and you’d never even hear about it if you only read corporate media. A recent interview between President Trump and Axios journalist Jonathan Swan goes a long way toward exposing what’s going on.

In it, the president alleged Democrat politicians in California plan to send unrequested mail-in ballots to every voter in the state. He then began discussing the security issues implicit in blasting off more than 20 million ballots based on outdated and inaccurate voter rolls.

Swan quickly interrupted, insisting Trump’s claims were false, and that applications were of course needed to receive a ballot. In an extraordinary display, he interrupted the president five times in less than a minute, again and again insisting’s Trump’s argument was false.

“They send applications, not ballots.”

“You have to apply for mail-in. It’s the same thing (as absentee voting).”

“Applications. You download them.”

“No, they’re not. Its applications.”

Flustered, the president eventually moved on to his next point.

The problem? Trump was right, and Swan was wrong. Last month, California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed into law a requirement that ballots be sent to every registered voter in the state, and mandated that polling places accept ballots up to 17 days late.

The decision came despite the state’s longstanding problems with inactive, out of state, and even dead residents staying on voter rolls. In its investigations, Judicial Watch has found more than 3.5 million “ghost voters” on the rolls, a problem that is still only partially resolved.

Seven days after the interview, Swan wrote a short apology on his social media account, conceding that states were indeed sending out ballots, not applications.

None of this is to say Swan was a liar. The fact that he apologized is commendable, and suggests he genuinely didn’t know what Democrats were doing. Rather, his mistake highlights the problem spot-on. As Democrats are spared hard questions from corporate media in the run-up to November, they’ve gotten away with passing a range of outlandish election plans that are hugely unpopular with the American public, without almost anyone knowing about them.

And California is only the tip of the iceberg.


Ballots Here, There, and Everywhere

Sending millions of ballots across states based on outdated voter rolls is just one of numerous controversial ideas being signed into law by Democrats while the media covers for them.

Ballot harvesting, a controversial practice wherein political operatives are allowed to go door-to-door gathering votes, is another. It’s a system even the Los Angeles Times states “open(s) the door to coercion or fraud.” It’s opposed by 84 percent of independents and a remarkable 76 percent of Democrats. It also raises safety concerns when the same political operative goes to dozens of homes.

Another strategy is removing signature verification for mailed-in votes. It’s a simple way to test whether the person who filled out a ballot is who he says he is. This safety step is also immensely popular across the political spectrum, with 84 percent of voters support requiring signatures to match those on file.

Yet none of these ethical problems nor the popular opposition to their plans have stopped Team Pelosi. In their latest 1,800-page “coronavirus” spending bill, Democrats quietly slipped in all three: legalization of ballot harvesting, removing signature verification, and mandating millions of ballots launched across the nation like in California.

It’s not difficult to imagine the consequences of blasting off millions of ballots that don’t need to be verified with signatures and can be collected by any old political operative.

While Republicans appear to have shot this attempt down in Congress, matching attempts are now being made on the state level across the country. On Sunday, Democrats in Nevada pushed through legislation matching California’s, which also legalized ballot harvesting. In Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania, Democrats and other organizations are quietly pushing to legalize ballot harvesting.


Clearly, each of these practices is considered deeply suspicious by the American public as a whole. But instead of questioning or indeed even defending these ideas, the media has abandoned covering them entirely. Needless to say, voters can’t punish politicians for actions they don’t know about. Since this is all happening before an election that is being set up to be rife with fraud, any fraud can also shield the politicians from voters’ punishment for attempts at increasing vote corruption.

In the place of this story is a simplistic narrative lifted straight from former President Obama’s stump speech at Rep. John Lewis’ funeral. It’s a story with bad guys on the right “doing their darnedest to discourage people from voting” by “attacking our voting rights with surgical precision.” Democrats, then, can be framed as the reasonable folk just trying to give people more options to use their liberties.

There’s no room in this story for widespread, questionable election tactics from the left. And there’s certainly no room to discuss what the implications of these measures will mean for the integrity of election results come November. So when you hear self-applauding speeches from politicians on the left celebrating their heroic stand for election integrity, remember what they’re doing under the table.

Jonah Gottschalk is an intern at the Federalist. He studies Modern History and International Relations at the University of St Andrews.
 

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It's already happening. I'll be voting in person.


For months we’ve heard reassurances from Democrats that the nation can, and should, vote by mail this November. It won’t, we’ve been told, result in an increase in voter fraud, and we can count on the Postal Service to handle the workload. And, of course, voting by mail is vital to prevent more coronavirus deaths.

It’s becoming painfully obvious that none of that is true, and that the Democrats’ only real motivation is to swing key elections in their favor.

Nearly every news story about mail-in voting asserts that there’s no evidence that it will increase fraud. Really?

The Heritage Foundation recently released a paper that detailed four elections that were overturned because of fraud involving absentee and mail-in ballots, including a school board election in California, a Miami mayoral election, a primary election in Indiana, and a congressional election in North Carolina.

In North Carolina, the state board of elections found “concerted fraudulent activities related to absentee by-mail ballots” and ruled that the election “was corrupted by fraud, improprieties and irregularities so pervasive that its results are tainted as the fruit of an operation manifestly unfair to the voters and corrosive to our system of representative government. “

Among other things, the investigation found forged signatures, falsified witness certifications, pressure on voters to fill out ballots a certain way, and “fraudulently voted blank or incomplete” ballots.

The election board ordered a new vote.

There’s an investigation underway right now in Paterson, New Jersey, in which residents have been charged with criminal election fraud in an all-mail municipal election.

“Evidence is surfacing of everything from voters reporting that they never received their absentee ballots (even though they are recorded as having voted) to accusations that one of the campaigns may have submitted fraudulent ballots,” writes Hans von Spakovsky, Heritage’s election integrity expert.

In July, former Pennsylvania Democratic congressman Michael “Ozzie” Myers was charged with ballot stuffing, bribery, and obstruction of justice in the 2014, 2015, and 2016 Democratic primaries. And a West Virginia mail carrier pleaded guilty earlier to attempted election fraud by altering ballot request forms.

A Portland State University survey in one Oregon county found that 5% of voters admitted that other people marked their ballots and 2.4% said someone else signed for them.

Von Spakovsky notes that “if that percentage held for the rest of the state, it would mean tens of thousands of illegal ballots.”

When confronted with evidence of fraud, Democrats and their handmaidens in the press dismiss it as not “widespread.”

But fraud doesn’t have to be widespread to alter results. President Donald Trump won the 2016 election by flipping three states — Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania — with a total vote margin of just 77,744. That’s small enough to tempt the Trump “resistance” into cheating “for the good of the country” without committing “widespread” voter fraud.

Aside from fraud, there’s the reality that a rush to a mail-in election this November will almost certainly be an administrative disaster that could delay results for weeks.

Just look at New York City, which is still trying to figure out who won primary elections in early June because of a multitude of problems, including the lack of postmarks and ballots that didn’t get to voters until it was too late to mail them.

To add to the confusion, on Tuesday a federal judge ordered the city to count those ballots that had been invalidated for lack of a postmark.

And in Michigan, “mail problems marred the delivery of absentee ballots” in “the run-up to Tuesday’s primary in the state,” which was “ramping up fears of political pressure on the U.S. Postal Service just three months before Nov. 3.”

A report from the U.S. Election Assistance Commission found that in the past four presidential elections, Oregon had 177,000 ballots listed as undeliverable, almost 29,000 were rejected and the fate of 871,737 was “unknown.”

And as we noted in this space earlier, a USPS inspector general investigation of the April 7 Wisconsin primary found that more than 3,500 absentee ballots never made it to voters, and hundreds had no postmarks.

Over the past four presidential elections, the post office sent 2 million absentee ballots to the wrong addresses.

Now imagine all this going on nationwide. The confusion, lawsuits, and acrimony will make the Florida recount look quaint. There’s already speculation that election results from mail-in voting might not be known until next year.

And for what? For public health reasons? There’s no scientific basis for such fears. And besides, if people can protest in the streets, gather for a prominent politician’s funeral or shop every week at the grocery store without causing undue harm to public health, surely they can stand in line (six feet apart and wearing masks) to vote in person.

Unless anyone doubts that Democrats motivation in pushing mail-in voting schemes is to improve their chance of victory, consider that they tried to sneak a nationwide all-mail voting mandate into a coronavirus relief bill back in the early spring, when they had no idea what the scale of the pandemic would be

Failing to get it done legislatively, leftist groups have been filing lawsuits in states across the country, not only to force them to send mail-in ballots to every name on (often outdated and error-riddled) voter registration lists, but to ban even the most basic protections against voter fraud.

Democrats don’t just want to let everyone vote by mail, they want to abolish witness and signature requirements. They want voters to have the chance to fix their own signatures if there’s a problem. They want to allow vote harvesting, whereby paid activists can collect ballots en masse and deliver them to the post office.

On ABC’s “This Week,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said about mail-in voting that: ” I don’t think it benefits one party or another. But I think it is essential from a health reason because we want to keep people at home to vote without having them all collect on Election Day.”

Only a Democrat can get away with making such ludicrous claims on national TV.

— Written by the I&I Editorial Board

https://issuesinsights.com/2020/08/...il-in-voting-will-bring-only-fraud-and-chaos/
 

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This is a hot button topic, and only going to grow and expand as the election nears. Needs its own thread.

The left was quick to crow about the Trump interview with Axios, how he took some lumps.

Well, dont ya know, we’ve got some quaint meager contractions and walk backs once the interviewer got himself more learned.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/0...ar-more-radical-than-the-media-will-tell-you/

Democrats’ Election Plans Are Far More Radical Than The Media Will Tell You

Sending millions of ballots across states based on outdated voter rolls is just one of numerous controversial ideas being signed into law by Democrats while the media covers for them.

Jonah Gottschalk
Democrats are planning a collection of unnecessary, dangerous, and wildly unpopular election changes for November, and you’d never even hear about it if you only read corporate media. A recent interview between President Trump and Axios journalist Jonathan Swan goes a long way toward exposing what’s going on.

In it, the president alleged Democrat politicians in California plan to send unrequested mail-in ballots to every voter in the state. He then began discussing the security issues implicit in blasting off more than 20 million ballots based on outdated and inaccurate voter rolls.

Swan quickly interrupted, insisting Trump’s claims were false, and that applications were of course needed to receive a ballot. In an extraordinary display, he interrupted the president five times in less than a minute, again and again insisting’s Trump’s argument was false.

“They send applications, not ballots.”

“You have to apply for mail-in. It’s the same thing (as absentee voting).”

“Applications. You download them.”

“No, they’re not. Its applications.”

Flustered, the president eventually moved on to his next point.

The problem? Trump was right, and Swan was wrong. Last month, California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed into law a requirement that ballots be sent to every registered voter in the state, and mandated that polling places accept ballots up to 17 days late.

The decision came despite the state’s longstanding problems with inactive, out of state, and even dead residents staying on voter rolls. In its investigations, Judicial Watch has found more than 3.5 million “ghost voters” on the rolls, a problem that is still only partially resolved.

Seven days after the interview, Swan wrote a short apology on his social media account, conceding that states were indeed sending out ballots, not applications.

None of this is to say Swan was a liar. The fact that he apologized is commendable, and suggests he genuinely didn’t know what Democrats were doing. Rather, his mistake highlights the problem spot-on. As Democrats are spared hard questions from corporate media in the run-up to November, they’ve gotten away with passing a range of outlandish election plans that are hugely unpopular with the American public, without almost anyone knowing about them.

And California is only the tip of the iceberg.


Ballots Here, There, and Everywhere

Sending millions of ballots across states based on outdated voter rolls is just one of numerous controversial ideas being signed into law by Democrats while the media covers for them.

Ballot harvesting, a controversial practice wherein political operatives are allowed to go door-to-door gathering votes, is another. It’s a system even the Los Angeles Times states “open(s) the door to coercion or fraud.” It’s opposed by 84 percent of independents and a remarkable 76 percent of Democrats. It also raises safety concerns when the same political operative goes to dozens of homes.

Another strategy is removing signature verification for mailed-in votes. It’s a simple way to test whether the person who filled out a ballot is who he says he is. This safety step is also immensely popular across the political spectrum, with 84 percent of voters support requiring signatures to match those on file.

Yet none of these ethical problems nor the popular opposition to their plans have stopped Team Pelosi. In their latest 1,800-page “coronavirus” spending bill, Democrats quietly slipped in all three: legalization of ballot harvesting, removing signature verification, and mandating millions of ballots launched across the nation like in California.

It’s not difficult to imagine the consequences of blasting off millions of ballots that don’t need to be verified with signatures and can be collected by any old political operative.

While Republicans appear to have shot this attempt down in Congress, matching attempts are now being made on the state level across the country. On Sunday, Democrats in Nevada pushed through legislation matching California’s, which also legalized ballot harvesting. In Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania, Democrats and other organizations are quietly pushing to legalize ballot harvesting.


Clearly, each of these practices is considered deeply suspicious by the American public as a whole. But instead of questioning or indeed even defending these ideas, the media has abandoned covering them entirely. Needless to say, voters can’t punish politicians for actions they don’t know about. Since this is all happening before an election that is being set up to be rife with fraud, any fraud can also shield the politicians from voters’ punishment for attempts at increasing vote corruption.

In the place of this story is a simplistic narrative lifted straight from former President Obama’s stump speech at Rep. John Lewis’ funeral. It’s a story with bad guys on the right “doing their darnedest to discourage people from voting” by “attacking our voting rights with surgical precision.” Democrats, then, can be framed as the reasonable folk just trying to give people more options to use their liberties.

There’s no room in this story for widespread, questionable election tactics from the left. And there’s certainly no room to discuss what the implications of these measures will mean for the integrity of election results come November. So when you hear self-applauding speeches from politicians on the left celebrating their heroic stand for election integrity, remember what they’re doing under the table.

Jonah Gottschalk is an intern at the Federalist. He studies Modern History and International Relations at the University of St Andrews.



I’m still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that this Federalist publication thinks that college age students are qualified enough to write without a journalism degree, or something similar.
Two articles from them today: one from a college intern and one from a recent Baylor grad.


Not saying that the articles are poorly done, just wish the writers themselves had legit credentials.


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I’m still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that this Federalist publication thinks that college age students are qualified enough to write without a journalism degree, or something similar.
Two articles from them today: one from a college intern and one from a recent Baylor grad.


Not saying that the articles are poorly done, just wish the writers themselves had legit credentials.


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So no voice unless you’ve been poisoned by the establishment?

I could care less someone’s work history if he or she can write a coherent, well thought out, and sourced piece.

Maybe Chris Cuomo could tackle it for ya.
 

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Anyone that thinks that there won't be any nefarious shit going on with this vote by mail scheme has their head in the sand or has a very severe case of TDS. They couldn't remove Trump from office by spying on his administration or a completely farcical impeachment (shortest in history) they think they can slide this by the American people and they will be ok with it.
 

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if its safe to go into stores & work wearing a mask. Why can't people go to polls to Vote . Ohio had issues in primary with just mail in ballots .
 
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There is no excuse whatsoever.

It’s in November. Wear a snorkel coat. Your mask. Gloves. Pants. Boots. You’ll have near -zero exposable skin.

Cut the shit already.
 

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The thing people are not realizing is that most do not object to absentee voting (no excuse absentee even). That is mostly because you have to apply for an absentee ballot. States like Nevada are, seemingly, just mailing ballots to active voters. While minimal, it could open up to voter fraud. Say a person moved to another state, dies, etc and someone fills the ballot for them. I'm not discounting it, I just want to know what safe guards will be in place to make sure only active voters vote.
 

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The thing people are not realizing is that most do not object to absentee voting (no excuse absentee even). That is mostly because you have to apply for an absentee ballot. States like Nevada are, seemingly, just mailing ballots to active voters. While minimal, it could open up to voter fraud. Say a person moved to another state, dies, etc and someone fills the ballot for them. I'm not discounting it, I just want to know what safe guards will be in place to make sure only active voters vote.
Just like people steal check & packages. What's stopping people from going around stealing ballots. To vote for who ever they want . A WV mailman was arrested for switching party ballots
 

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I’m still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that this Federalist publication thinks that college age students are qualified enough to write without a journalism degree, or something similar.
Two articles from them today: one from a college intern and one from a recent Baylor grad.


Not saying that the articles are poorly done, just wish the writers themselves had legit credentials.


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Well, I was. I have posted articles from my 20 year old self in the Op-ed thread.

I'd say they were pretty spot on and quite good even looking back from my 48 year old self.

Once again, I know I can be an outlier because I am mostly self-educated, taught by my dad how to reason at a young age and set on my intellectual journey at 12.

Just saying it's possible to be an intelligent and well spoken youth. Many are not, of course, however the Federalist is a quality institution that vetts their writers quite well. And they are quite conservative.

I'm having a hard time understanding that you, as a professed conservative, would take issue with them.
 
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The thing people are not realizing is that most do not object to absentee voting (no excuse absentee even). That is mostly because you have to apply for an absentee ballot. States like Nevada are, seemingly, just mailing ballots to active voters. While minimal, it could open up to voter fraud. Say a person moved to another state, dies, etc and someone fills the ballot for them. I'm not discounting it, I just want to know what safe guards will be in place to make sure only active voters vote.

Short answer?

None.
 

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Well, I was. I have posted articles from my 20 year old self in the Op-ed thread.

I'd say they were pretty spot on and quite good even looking back from my 48 year old self.

Once again, I know I can be an outlier because I am mostly self-educated, taught by my dad how to reason at a young age and set on my intellectual journey at 12.

Just saying it's possible to be an intelligent and well spoken youth. Many are not, of course, however the Federalist is a quality institution that vetts their writers quite well. And they are quite conservative.

I'm having a hard time understanding that you, as a professed conservative, would take issue with them.



I don’t. I’m just curious how qualified these writers are.

Ironically, I posted the other day how a founder of this very publication thought that Trump must be impeached IF he tries to postpone the election.

DS and others mocked me for that story.
Yet he links from that very publication all of the time.



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I don’t. I’m just curious how qualified these writers are.

Ironically, I posted the other day how a founder of this very publication thought that Trump must be impeached IF he tries to postpone the election.

DS and others mocked me for that story.
Yet he links from that very publication all of the time.



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You quoted that publication and defend it then turn around and question those that write for it? :shrug_n:
 
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I don’t. I’m just curious how qualified these writers are.

Ironically, I posted the other day how a founder of this very publication thought that Trump must be impeached IF he tries to postpone the election.

DS and others mocked me for that story.
Yet he links from that very publication all of the time.



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I wasn’t mocking the article or the writers.

I was mocking the fact you weren’t aware the election is a federal law. Trump can’t move it arbitrarily even if he wanted to.

That’s not how the process works.
 

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Nevada was warned yet they went and mailed them out anyways.

Las Vegas: Over 223K Mail-In Ballots Bounced as ‘Undeliverable’ in Recent Primary Election
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In this July 7, 2020, file photo a woman wearing gloves drops off a mail-in ballot at a drop box in Hackensack, N.J. The November election is coming with a big price tag as America faces the coronavirus pandemic. The demand for mail-in ballots is surging, election workers are in …AP Photo/Seth Wenig
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More than 223,000 mail-in ballots sent to registered voters in Clark County, Nevada, were bounced as “undeliverable” in the state’s June primary election, newly released data reveals.

According to data collected by the Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) from the Clark County Election Department, a total of 223,469 mail-in ballots sent to registered voters for the June 9 primary election ended up bouncing as “undeliverable” — 17 percent of the total 1,325,934 mail-in ballots that were sent out in the county.

“These numbers show how vote by mail fails,” PILF President J. Christian Adams said in a statement, adding:

New proponents of mail balloting don’t often understand how it actually works. States like Oregon and Washington spent many years building their mail voting systems and are notably aggressive with voter list maintenance efforts. Pride in their own systems does not somehow transfer across state lines. Nevada, New York, and others are not and will not be ready for November.

For comparison, in the 2012, 2014, 2016, and 2018 general elections, the entire state of Nevada recorded just 5,863 mail-in ballots as “undeliverable.” That data comes from U.S. Election Assistance Commission surveys.


The data find that of those “undeliverable” mail ballots, 58 percent were from inactive voters and 42 percent were from active voters. Put another way, 92,337 were listed as Democrats and 53,129 are Republicans.

Clark County, which went more than 52 percent for Hillary Clinton in 2016, sent out mail-in ballots to all registered voters for their primary election — unlike other counties, including Washoe, in the state’s northwest corner.

Washoe County sent out a little more than a fifth of the mail-in ballots that Clark County sent for the primary election and saw far fewer “undeliverables,” less than 28,000. Unlike Las Vegas, Reno officials did not send ballots to “inactive” voters.

The revelation comes as Gov. Steve Sisolak (D) signed legislation to send mail-in ballots to all active registered voters for the 2020 presidential election.

On Wednesday, President Trump said Nevada did not have the election infrastructure to take on such a task as universal mail-in voting.

Trump wrote in a post:

Nevada has ZERO infrastructure for Mail-In Voting. It will be a corrupt disaster if not ended by the Courts. It will take months, or years, to figure out. Florida has built a great infrastructure, over years, with two great Republican Governors. Florida, send in your Ballots!

Recent data has not shown a compelling public health justification for mail-in voting. In Wisconsin’s April election, only 52 of more than 400,000 voters and poll workers were confirmed to have contracted the Chinese coronavirus. None of those cases were fatal. This equals an infection rate below two-hundredths of one percent.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ecent-primary-election/?utm_source=whatfinger
 

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I wasn’t mocking the article or the writers.



I was mocking the fact you weren’t aware the election is a federal law. Trump can’t move it arbitrarily even if he wanted to.



That’s not how the process works.



WTF?
Go back and read.
I didn’t say a single damn thing. Your idol Trump mentioned postponing it.
Because he’s that stupid, yes. You tried to play it off as him playing the media, but we know he really thinks he’s capable of doing that.

Hence why The Federalist founder came out and spoke out against Trump. This is the point you’re ignoring.


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WTF?
Go back and read.
I didn’t say a single damn thing. Your idol Trump mentioned postponing it.
Because he’s that stupid, yes. You tried to play it off as him playing the media, but we know he really thinks he’s capable of doing that.

Hence why The Federalist founder came out and spoke out against Trump. This is the point you’re ignoring.


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If you don’t believe by now he says and does things intentionally, knowing all the while it’s going to go up Pelosi & Co skirt like a hornets nest, just to tweek and drive them nuts, then you haven’t been paying attention.

You’re harping on this offhand comment. Biden has had a litany of racially charged faux pas and you have nothing to say.

Nah, no TDS.
 

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If you don’t believe by now he says and does things intentionally, knowing all the while it’s going to go up Pelosi & Co skirt like a hornets nest, just to tweek and drive them nuts, then you haven’t been paying attention.



You’re harping on this offhand comment. Biden has had a litany of racially charged faux pas and you have nothing to say.



Nah, no TDS.



Again, your comprehension is screwed up.

Once again, I said nothing about Trump’s misinformed and moronic comment.
Nothing.
Nada.
Zip.
Nihil.

The founder of The Federalist DID say something.

How hard is this to comprehend?
Stop being a Trumpswab and READ.


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Again, your comprehension is screwed up.

Once again, I said nothing about Trump’s misinformed and moronic comment.
Nothing.
Nada.
Zip.
Nihil.

The founder of The Federalist DID say something.

How hard is this to comprehend?
Stop being a Trumpswab and READ.


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You’re splitting hairs here.

Sure, YOU didn’t say anything. But notice once again your TDS kicks in and you link a headline and story that all the media jumped on like he has the absolute authority or control to do that. He doesn’t.

You’re talking , via your linking - that’s the point by linking the article, your consistently negative viewpoint towards the president. You’re consistent. Just own it.
 
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