Patriots sign DeVante Parker to 3 yr extension - $33M

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not but I'll bite...He's been an inconsistent producer his entire career, even when he's healthy, which is rare. The guy completely disappears for games at a time. I don't see any of that changing now that he's on the wrong side of 30.
But he's not at Miami anymore. He's with better coaching in a better culture and as you say, he's 30 so maturity does kick in.

Clearly BoB and Bill like what they see.
 
Seems a bit odd given he didn't show a lot last year. Perhaps BOB likes him a lot.
 
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not but I'll bite...He's been an inconsistent producer his entire career, even when he's healthy, which is rare. The guy completely disappears for games at a time. I don't see any of that changing now that he's on the wrong side of 30. Not saying the contract is bad, the good games he has can be phenomenal at times and win you those games, just be prepared for him only catching 1 or 2 passes total over the next couple of games after one of those
I think he does just fine if you look at what he does with the targets he gets.
 
Seems a bit odd given he didn't show a lot last year. Perhaps BOB likes him a lot.
No one on the offence was able to show much last season. Have you simply forgotten about that coaching nightmare?
Really people you have got to realize that you can't go off of last season to gauge any offensive player who was with the Patriots.
 
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For the life of me, I cannot understand how this is not working out for him here.

The word on Kendrick Bourne is that he hasn't been able to learn the route running rules for the options.
That was evident last year when he was responsible for so many collisions with his own team mates during games.
He may get a chance to redeem himself this year but if DHOP is signed he's as good as gone imo.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not but I'll bite...He's been an inconsistent producer his entire career, even when he's healthy, which is rare. The guy completely disappears for games at a time. I don't see any of that changing now that he's on the wrong side of 30. Not saying the contract is bad, the goodgames he has can be phenomenal at times and win you those games, just be prepared for him only catching 1 or 2 passes total over the next couple of games after one of those

He has been up and down in terms of production but let's take a closer look as to why.
His first 4 years he had Joe Philbin and Adam Gase as his head coaches.
If that's not enough, as a rookie, he had Ryan Tannehill for 16 games but being a rookie in 2015 his snaps were limited & he only started 4 games. Philbin was the HC.
The next 3 years Gase was the HC. The next 2, Flores.

As a rookie had 26 catches/500 yds/20 1st downs/3 TDs. 19 yds/catch! Pretty damn good for a rookie if you ask me with Philbin as HC and Tannehill at QB.
In 2016, he had 56 catches/750 yds/35 1st downs/4 TDs. Rookie HC Adam Gase and Tannehill (13) games and Matt Moore (3 games) at QB. Very good.
In 2017, he had 57 catches/670 yds/34 1st downs/3 TDs. His QBs were Jay Cutler (11 games) and Matt Moore (2 games). Pretty good considering he played only 13 games.
In 2018, he had 24 catches/309 yds/14 1st downs/1 TD. His worst year but he played in only 11 games with Tannehill in 6 and Brock Osweiler in 5 games.
In 2019, he had 72 catches/1200 yds/58 1st downs/9 TDs. Great year Flores as a 1st yr HC and with Ryan Fitzpatrick (13 games) and Josh Rosen (3 games) at QB.
In 2020, he had 63 catches/800 yds/45 1st downs/4 TDs. QBs were Fitzpatrick (7 games) and rookie QB Tua (7 games). He played in 14 games.
In 2021, he had 40 catches/515 yds/29 1st downs/2 TDs. QBs were Tua (5 games) and Brissett (5 games). He played in only 10 games.

I think, with a little thought, this explains Parker's ups and downs. Give him a QB and a Coach and he plays well.

Health has been an issue. He missed 24 games over 8 years which explains his heavily incentivized contract.
Draft Sharks gives him an 83% chance of getting injured in 2023 and will miss 2.5 games this year.
 
The word on Kendrick Bourne is that he hasn't been able to learn the route running rules for the options.
That was evident last year when he was responsible for so many collisions with his own team mates during games.
He may get a chance to redeem himself this year but if DHOP is signed he's as good as gone imo.
So again you seem to be basing this on what happened last season. So are you saying what he did in 2021 was just a fluke? 2021 was under Josh McDaniel a good OC last season was under Matt Patricia who couldn't coach the offence at all.
YearTeamRECYDSAVGLNGTDYDSAVG
2022Patriots3543412.4411396.5
2021Patriots5580014.575512510.4
This is what Parker did in the same two seasons I don't see Parker as being a significantly better WR.
YearTeamRECYDSAVGLNGTDATTYDS
2022Patriots3153917.443300
2021Dolphins4051512.942200
 
The more I think about it the more I hope they let Hopkins sign elsewhere. He wants Odell money and isn’t worth it. Maybe for one year, but not multiple.
Odell is already skipping OTAs. Veteran hall of fame QBs no worries. Old injured WRs on a new team…….lol have fun raven fans.
But I’ve always liked Parker, even if his production hasn’t met my expectations for him. He seems to want to be a Patriot, and if he holds up his end he’s gonna be a great depth option for 2 or 3 years. I’d love to see Hopkins for a year, but I really think he only has a season and a half left. With Parker locked up I hope he goes somewhere else.
 
So again you seem to be basing this on what happened last season. So are you saying what he did in 2021 was just a fluke? 2021 was under Josh McDaniel a good OC last season was under Matt Patricia who couldn't coach the offence at all.
YearTeamRECYDSAVGLNGTDYDSAVG
2022Patriots3543412.4411396.5
2021Patriots5580014.575512510.4
This is what Parker did in the same two seasons I don't see Parker as being a significantly better WR.
YearTeamRECYDSAVGLNGTDATTYDS
2022Patriots3153917.443300
2021Dolphins4051512.942200

I'm saying Bourne wasn't able to learn his routes last year.
Check out their career stats and then see if you don't see that Parker is significantly better than Bourne.


 
No one on the offence was able to show much last season. Have you simply forgotten about that coaching nightmare?
Really people you have got to realize that you can't go off of last season to gauge any offensive player who was with the Patriots.
Yes. The coaching was awful but I didn't think Parker looked all that good in general. At least not worth an extension until he showed what he could do this season under more competent coaching. But I would assume Bill wanted to lock him up now instead of trying to outbid for him in FA.
 
I'm ambivalent about this signing, but don't necessarily think I know Parker due to the general shitshow of all
aspects of our offense, which dragged everybody down a few notches.

What I would like to see, though, is him able to get back to his feet after every hit without looking like he
is about to take his dying breath.
 
I'm saying Bourne wasn't able to learn his routes last year.
Check out their career stats and then see if you don't see that Parker is significantly better than Bourne.


My point is that Bourne was intently sabotaged by Patricia last season
Most of the time Born has not been a top WR on a team but a good role player
Parker was at times the #1 WR in Miami. So no I don't see it.
 
My point is that Bourne was intently sabotaged by Patricia last season
Most of the time Born has not been a top WR on a team but a good role player
Parker was at times the #1 WR in Miami. So no I don't see it.
I don't buy that. Patricia didn't help, but he wasn't making him jump offsides on the rare occasions he saw the field.
 
To me, Bourne might be the perfect example of why buy-in to coaching is so important. I believe that he didn't learn the routes last season, but I'm not sure that's because he couldn't. I don't know why it would be surprising that he wasn't fully engaged and absorbing what he needed to absorb. He didn't seem to have any problems learning his roots the year prior, under McDaniels, and all we ever heard about was how complicated that offense was, how wide receivers often struggled in their first year in the system, that sort of thing.

It's far from a lock, but I expect to see born reasserting himself this season.
 
☝️ To me, Bourne might be the perfect example of why buy-in to coaching is so important. I believe that he didn't learn the routes last season, but I'm not sure that's because he couldn't. I don't know why it would be surprising that he wasn't fully engaged and absorbing what he needed to absorb. He didn't seem to have any problems learning his roots the year prior, under McDaniels, and all we ever heard about was how complicated that offense was, how wide receivers often struggled in their first year in the system, that sort of thing.

It's far from a lock, but I expect to see born reasserting himself this season.

What Flag said.☝️☝️☝️
 
I don't buy that. Patricia didn't help, but he wasn't making him jump offsides on the rare occasions he saw the field.
OK now you are really just nitpicking. There were many off sides penalties against many players on the patriots last season. Bourne only committed 2 It points directly to a lack of focus and yes you can directly look at the piss poor coaching as a major cause.

2022 New England Patriots Penalty Statistics​

The following are the 2022 NFL Player Penalty Statistics. Figures include only enforced penalties during regular season games. Does not include declined or offsetting penalties.
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Jonathan Jones (DB), NEDBNE7890202100002
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Josh Uche (LB), NELBNE4270000000103
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Jakobi Meyers (WR), NEWRNE3251100000001
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Carl Davis (DE), NEDENE3150100000002
Mack Wilson (LB), NELBNE2240000010001
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Conor McDermott (OT), NEOTNE2151100000000
Raekwon McMillan (LB), NELBNE2150100000001
Michael Onwenu (OT), NEOTNE2151000000001
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What I would like to see, though, is him able to get back to his feet after every hit without looking like he
is about to take his dying breath.
I recall watching Jim Brown do that all the time. He looked like he wasn't going to make it back to the LOS and when the ball was snapped he was running over people. Not sure why. It wasn't like he was fooling the LBs every play.
 
I don't buy that. Patricia didn't help, but he wasn't making him jump offsides on the rare occasions he saw the field.
No, but this wasn't limited to one player, and when the entire unit is unsure of the system and play calling, you're probably going to get exactly what we saw, an offense that was never in sinc, and largely inefficient.
 
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