Poll: SB - Bigger High or Lower Low?

Helmet Catch Worse or Interception Better?

  • The helmet catch was worse: total devastation

    Votes: 2 11.1%
  • The interception was better: total elation

    Votes: 14 77.8%
  • This is one or the other - alternatives not allowed.,

    Votes: 2 11.1%

  • Total voters
    18

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I just spent the better part of a week watching recaps of all the Super Bowls and the following question occurred to me: I was pole-axed when we lost to the Giants with the Tyree helmet catch, but likewise I was over the moon with the last second Malcolm Butler interception against the Seahawks. Which one had the bigger emotional impact on you?
 
An excruciatingly near impossible question, and sorry, but way beyond my paygrade.

Cheers
 
The helmet catch wasn't the end of the game.
The int sealed the victory.
Yes, this.

I felt worse at the moment of the Kearse catch than I did the Tyrie catch.

I will also say that, while nothing can equate the exact euphoria you feel "from the first one," the Seahawks SB win was as close because while I felt the Patriots could win that game, I didn't think they would win that game. I was starting to make peace with the idea that the Patriots were over and that Brady and BB were going to finish up at 3-3 in SB's. So the Kearse catch, followed by the Butler INT.... Holy. Living. Fuck!
 
Which was more extreme? I wasn't shocked that we lost to the Giants. I'd accepted it to an extent. Walking out to my car I did break a bottle of expensive whiskey that I planned
to crack open to celebrate (the cap still on tight) and I can remember just looking at the mess and thinking well, that's the capper of the night right there, but I was mostly numb
and not that emotional having spent the week feeling a creeping dread. I half expected it. I felt hollow more than angry, although I hate the mention of Assante Samuel's name
to this day. Even Junior.

I was at a party at my Brother's house for the Malcolm game and we were really into it. We were probably the only hardcore Pats fans there and we mostly tuned out the
civilians asking ignorant football questions as we talked in rapid-fire bullet points from play to play. Like a Patriots codex. I've seldom been that focused on anything. I was loud and
out-of-control according to my nephews who still mention that night to me. Apparently, I said something rude to offend one of the local yummy mummies who kept running
her mouth about nothing but it was too important a time to be diplomatic and I just needed her to pipe down so we could all hear the game. The kids loved that.

The sheer unexpected joy of that Butler pick was far more impactful for me but I really never feared losing the game that much. I suppose I should have, in retrospect, but
unlike the 28-3 game I never lost hope.
 
For me, the Butler interception was more impactful In The Moment.

But 19-0 lingers for the long term of what could have been. It hurts longer.
part of me wonders if 19-0 would have been paved over by the absolute crap that was cameragate. i'm still bitter about the manufactured scandals that are brought up when people speak of the pats glory years.
 
The first loss to the giants was only over come by 3 more superbowl wins. We are lucky as a fanbase, cause a loss like that usually destroys a franchise.
That said, the first giants loss only hurt so bad because of the hope of a perfect season. If you look at it in a single game vacuum that falcon’s Super Bowl may be the best win in Super Bowl history.
The Seahawks SB…… I mean that last play was good, but it ranks pretty low in terms of my favorite pats SB wins. Maybe just above the second Rams win.
 
Appreciate everyone's remarks, but I still feel completely bummed when I think about the Giant loss and not as thrilled as the Seahawks interception. After the Giants game, I couldn't go to sleep and some wandering asshole took that moment to post a really disgusting bowel movement porno shot on this site before the mods found and removed it. I had been hoping for some "chin ups" from fellow Pats fans and instead was completely disgusted and grossed out by this totally unexpected trespass by some sicko that made me feel even worse. I hope that guy is proud of himself. He was obviously a gloating New Yorker who has managed to remain permanently in my mind's eye.
 
Appreciate everyone's remarks, but I still feel completely bummed when I think about the Giant loss and not as thrilled as the Seahawks interception. After the Giants game, I couldn't go to sleep and some wandering asshole took that moment to post a really disgusting bowel movement porno shot on this site before the mods found and removed it. I had been hoping for some "chin ups" from fellow Pats fans and instead was completely disgusted and grossed out by this totally unexpected trespass by some sicko that made me feel even worse. I hope that guy is proud of himself. He was obviously a gloating New Yorker who has managed to remain permanently in my mind's eye.
It was 16 years ago, and they won 6 Super Bowls. It'll be ok, promise.
 
Appreciate everyone's remarks, but I still feel completely bummed when I think about the Giant loss and not as thrilled as the Seahawks interception. After the Giants game, I couldn't go to sleep and some wandering asshole took that moment to post a really disgusting bowel movement porno shot on this site before the mods found and removed it. I had been hoping for some "chin ups" from fellow Pats fans and instead was completely disgusted and grossed out by this totally unexpected trespass by some sicko that made me feel even worse. I hope that guy is proud of himself. He was obviously a gloating New Yorker who has managed to remain permanently in my mind's eye.
Perhaps I misunderstood the poll question because I still have not recovered from that 18-1 season. At the time of Tyrie's catch, I did not think the Patriots were definitely going to lose. As the the Seahawks lined up on 2nd down, I absolutely knew the Patriots were going to lose - except they didn't.

But 2007 will haunt me forever. Boston could have had 3 pro championships in one year (Red Sox and 07-08 Celtics won; Bruins lost in first round).
 
The Butler pick, hands down.
I was at a neighbors party with a mix of people I knew / didn't.
It was a pretty glum crowd and I was fired up and telling people it wasn't over, and few believed me.
Until things tightened up that is.

That pick was an unforgettable high.
 
The Butler pick, hands down.
I was at a neighbors party with a mix of people I knew / didn't.
It was a pretty glum crowd and I was fired up and telling people it wasn't over, and few believed me.
Until things tightened up that is.

That pick was an unforgettable high.

Jumping up and down while hugging with my daughter in our living room after that interception is one of my favorite memories of all time.

The SB loss hurt but it isn't even comparable for me to those last few minutes against Seattle.
 
Perhaps I misunderstood the poll question because I still have not recovered from that 18-1 season. At the time of Tyrie's catch, I did not think the Patriots were definitely going to lose. As the the Seahawks lined up on 2nd down, I absolutely knew the Patriots were going to lose - except they didn't.

But 2007 will haunt me forever. Boston could have had 3 pro championships in one year (Red Sox and 07-08 Celtics won; Bruins lost in first round).
Yep, the Giants ruining our perfect season was the one I was citing. Maybe I said it wrong. I still hope the cretin who posted the turd picture dies in a fire.
 
I fell asleep early in the 2007 super bowl. It was clear to me that they were being outphysicaled, and since the Giants were a terrible matchup for them, I was dead certain they were going to lose. I kept it on in the background, rolled over, and went to sleep. I only saw the Tyree catch on highlights later.

The first was unmatched. I was near nobody I knew, but I was at Murphy's in Alexandria, VA and it was total friggin' pandemonium.

But the timing of the Seahawks game was priceless. Mrs. Flagg's sister's family was living with us at the time, and her a-hat husband was a lifelong Seahawks fan. He had literally just laid out BS platitudes about it being a good game, and that the Patriots had had a good run, when Butler made that pick. The little Wanderers and I all leapt up and, in what has now officially been labeled "Not Dad's Best Moment," I turned to my a-hole B-i-L, spread my arms open wide, and quoted the great Richard Sherman:

You mad, Bro?

Am I sorry?

Well...

I'm sorry that I'm not a good enough person to be sorry. Does that count for anything? But considering who he revealed himself to be over the next few years...I can wish I had been a bigger man, and had set a better example for my children...but still cherish the memory while adoring and caring for the 4 absolutely precious nieces and nephews that he walked out on.
 
I fell asleep early in the 2007 super bowl. It was clear to me that they were being outphysicaled, and since the Giants were a terrible matchup for them, I was dead certain they were going to lose. I kept it on in the background, rolled over, and went to sleep. I only saw the Tyree catch on highlights later.

The first was unmatched. I was near nobody I knew, but I was at Murphy's in Alexandria, VA and it was total friggin' pandemonium.

But the timing of the Seahawks game was priceless. Mrs. Flagg's sister's family was living with us at the time, and her a-hat husband was a lifelong Seahawks fan. He had literally just laid out BS platitudes about it being a good game, and that the Patriots had had a good run, when Butler made that pick. The little Wanderers and I all leapt up and, in what has now officially been labeled "Not Dad's Best Moment," I turned to my a-hole B-i-L, spread my arms open wide, and quoted the great Richard Sherman:



Am I sorry?

Well...

I'm sorry that I'm not a good enough person to be sorry. Does that count for anything? But considering who he revealed himself to be over the next few years...I can wish I had been a bigger man, and had set a better example for my children...but still cherish the memory while adoring and caring for the 4 absolutely precious nieces and nephews that he walked out on.
The "you mad bro?" pic is one for the ages. :rofl:
 
The morning after SB XXXVI I had to get up and go to work, all my bills still needed to be paid, still had to get the kids to their activities, nothing changed.

The same was true after the helmet catch.

It's still only a game and I'm not even playing.
 
Here's a great article just put on SI. It's about how the Patriots basically broke Seatlle with the SB win. How the Seahawks were primed to become a dynasty, they figured it would happen, and how the Patriots just destroyed that and they have never been the same since.

Same with Atlanta. Can anyone say that Matt Ryan was the same player again after that collapse?

Edelman entered that season—fresh off his breakout 105-catch campaign in 2013—unbearably ringless. It had been a decade since the Patriots’ last Super Bowl victory, and Edelman, then a sixth-year receiver, was sick of hearing about the Troy Brown–Tedy Bruschi–Willie McGinest glory days. They had won titles, shaped a dynasty, deserved all the accolades, but that generation of Patriots was gone. A championship for Edelman’s Patriots would mean his team would “finally start [a generation of] our own.”

That winter, he remembers the team’s crisp preparation for the Super Bowl in Arizona; he liked what he witnessed on a heavily guarded practice field. The Patriots fine-tuned with urgency, everyone fast, everyone serious. The offense executed with end-of-the-year precision. There was one outlier, a specific play the defense was struggling to cover. One of the Seahawks’ offensive tendencies was to utilize a Twin WR Stack in the red zone. The Patriots wanted Butler to slide inside fellow cornerback Brandon Browner on that play, covering the wideout who was slanting. But against New England’s practice-squad offense, Butler could not get there; he was getting smoked, every time. At one point, Edelman thought, Oh, f---. I hope they don’t run this play.
But to Edelman, the game-altering moment in Super Bowl XLIX came at the end of the first quarter. Bill Belichick and the Patriots’ coaching staff had the utmost respect for the Seahawks’ defense, particularly a group of defensive backs known to most as the Legion of Boom but referred to in the Patriots’ building as The Seattle Six. There was also deep concern for defensive end Michael Bennett’s game-wrecking ability. The plan was to run right at Bennett with big back LeGarrette Blount, with the idea of wearing him down like a boxer who has to absorb a series of body blows early in a bout.

Pete Carroll and defensive coordinator Dan Quinn caught New England off-guard early: Edelman says the “zone-beater” routes the Patriots had prepared to counter the Seahawks’ famed Cover 3 defense hadn’t come into play—Seattle surprised them by leaning heavily on man coverage early. The game started off as a slog (both teams were scoreless 20 minutes in). With a little less than two minutes left in the first quarter, New England facing third down at the Seattle 10, the Seahawks’ defense made a play—and paid a price.

Jeremy Lane, Seattle’s nickel corner, intercepted a Tom Brady pass and was upended by Edelman during the run back. In bracing his fall he sustained a gruesome injury: Above his left wrist, his arm snapped. It was revealed later that Lane also tore his ACL on the play.

Beginning with their next possession, it was clear that Brady was targeting anyone matched up with Tharold Simon, Lane’s replacement. Edelman would get his shot later, but the game’s first points came when Brady found Brandon LaFell on a slant route, with safety Earl Thomas crashing into Simon as LaFell crossed the goal line.


 
I'm even-keeled so I never get too low or high anyway, but the Butler INT got me out of my seat jumping for joy like a little kid. The helmet catch was one thing and yeah it was a gut punch, but the Kearse one made it feel like it's now a curse, I had conceded the game was over, and I only kept watching to torture myself, had a picture in my mind of the 'hawks celebrating, and then boom! Not to mention they were down what 10 points I think going into that 4th quarter? That was such an emotional roller coaster, such a great game where both teams left it all out and then some on the field, an all time great SB.
 
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