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His words and actions scream fascist. All he cares about is keeping power and gaining control over congress in all things.
Oh heck ya, fascist dictators like Franco, Mussolini, Hitler, etc - they all had to control the "message" that got out there via radio and the printed news.

Trump?? Oh yea, pretty much the same mindset - the media (except Fox a lot) was "The enemy of the people". Gawd, still can't get over the fact I heard that phrase numerous times - and we never dumped his ass before this? Sickening.
 

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Oh heck ya, fascist dictators like Franco, Mussolini, Hitler, etc - they all had to control the "message" that got out there via radio and the printed news.

Trump?? Oh yea, pretty much the same mindset - the media (except Fox a lot) was "The enemy of the people". Gawd, still can't get over the fact I heard that phrase numerous times - and we never dumped his ass before this? Sickening.
We can't get that piece of shit out of Washington fast enough for me.
 

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I guess i need a maga dictionary.
Nope just a regular one.

Simple stuff. View people by their deeds not their words.

Understanding will wash over you.

But make sure you are sitting down when you do this as the realization will be staggering.
 
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Simple stuff. View people by their deeds not their words.

Understanding with wash over you.

But make sure you are sitting down when you do this as the realization will be staggering.
Some people refuse to view people by their deeds. They will do anything to avoid viewing people by their deeds.

When will you view Trump supporters by their deeds, accept that it was Trump supporters that stormed the Capitol, that they beat two policemen to death?

But be sitting down because the realization will be staggering and sadness will wash over you.
 

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Some people refuse to view people by their deeds. They will do anything to avoid viewing people by their deeds.

When will you view Trump supporters by their deeds, accept that it was Trump supporters that stormed the Capitol, that they beat two policemen to death?

But be sitting down because the realization will be staggering and sadness will wash over you.

Two policemen died? Thought it was one.


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Some people refuse to view people by their deeds. They will do anything to avoid viewing people by their deeds.

When will you view Trump supporters by their deeds, accept that it was Trump supporters that stormed the Capitol, that they beat two policemen to death?

But be sitting down because the realization will be staggering and sadness will wash over you.
I answered this question in another post. Look for it. Can't remember which thread. Too much coffee/TEAMS calls this morning. My day starts with calls Asia/Pac and Europe before you have you first mid-sleep bladder relief session. :coffee:
 
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So how many of our resident “fiscal conservatives” are outraged over $100k in tax dollars being spent because the Kushners wouldn’t let the secret service use their bathroom?

Um, how about 900 bucks a hammer under Clinton. Thnk I saw Judd Hirsch mention that in "Independence Day". He was referring to black world projects but the opulence, while not back in the day France level is nutz.
 

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Um, how about 900 bucks a hammer under Clinton. Thnk I saw Judd Hirsch mention that in "Independence Day". He was referring to black world projects but the opulence, while not back in the day France level is nutz.
Thank you for demonstrating the partisan hypocrisy, yes.
 

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The nationally representative poll of 1,000 citizens included 307 voters who cast votes for Republican Congressional candidates in the midterm elections. We asked them, “In your opinion, how many citizens voting for the Democrats did so because they sincerely believe that the Democratic party is best for the country?”

Republicans can’t understand Democrats​



Only one in four Republican voters felt that most or almost all Democratic voters sincerely believed they were voting in the best interests of the country. Rather, many Republicans told us that Democratic voters were “brainwashed by the propaganda of the mainstream media,” or voting solely in their self-interest to preserve undeserved welfare and food stamp benefits.

We asked every Republican in the sample to do their best to imagine that they were a Democrat and sincerely believed that the Democratic Party was best for the country. We asked them to explain their support for the Democratic Party as an actual Democratic voter might. For example, a 64-year-old strong Republican man from Illinois surmised that “Democrats want to help the poor, save Social Security, and tax the rich.”

But most had trouble looking at the world through Democratic eyes. Typical was a a 59-year-old Floridian who wrote “I don’t want to work and I want cradle to grave assistance. In other words, Mommy!” Indeed, roughly one in six Republican voters answered in the persona of a Democratic voter who is motivated “free college,” “free health care,” “free welfare,” and so on. They see Democrats as voting in order to get “free stuff” “without having to work for it” was extremely common – roughly one in six Republican voters used the word “free” in the their answers, whereas no real Democratic voters in our sample answered this way.

Among the Republicans who seemed to try hardest to take the perspective of sincere and patriotic Democratic voters, the most common attributions were related to immigration – a topic made salient by President Trump in his campaign stops during the last month of the election. As in this Republican woman from Washington who said, “Democrats welcome all people into the country whether they are here legally or not.”

Democrats return the favor: Republicans uninformed or self-interested​

The 429 Democratic voters in our sample returned the favor and raised many of the same themes. Democrats inferred that Republicans must be “VERY ill-informed,” or that “Fox news told me to vote for Republicans.” Or that Republicans are “uneducated and misguided people guided by what the media is feeding them.”

Many also attributed votes to individual self-interest – whereas GOP voters feel Democrats want “free stuff,” many Democrats believe Republicans think that “I got mine and don’t want the libs to take it away,” or that “some day I will be rich and then I can get the benefits that rich people get now.”

Many used the question to express their anger and outrage at the other side. Rather than really try to take the position of their opponents, they said things like, “I like a dictatorial system of Government, I’m a racist, I hate non-whites.”

Democrats think many Republicans sincere, and point to policy​



Democrats, however, were somewhat more generous in their answers. More than four in ten Democratic voters (42%) felt that most Republican voters had the country’s best interests at heart (combining the top two bars in the figure below). And many tried their best to answer from the other’s perspective. A 45-year-old male voter from Ohio imagined that as a Republican, he was motivated by Republicans’ “harsh stance on immigration; standing up for the 2nd Amendment; promised tax cuts.” A 30-year-old woman from Colorado felt that Republican votes reflected the desires to “stop abortion… stop gay marriage from ruining our country… and give us our coal jobs back.”

Other Democrats felt that their opponents were mostly motivated by the GOP’s “opposition to Obamacare,” “lower taxes” and to support a party that “reduced unemployment.”

Taking the perspective of others proved to be really hard​

The divide in the United States is wide, and one indication of that is how difficult our question proved for many thoughtful citizens. A 77-year-old Republican woman from Pennsylvania was typical of the voters who struggled with this question, telling us, “This is really hard for me to even try to think like a devilcrat!, I am sorry but I in all honesty cannot answer this question. I cannot even wrap my mind around any reason they would be good for this country.”

Similarly, a 53-year-old Republican from Virginia said, “I honestly cannot even pretend to be a Democrat and try to come up with anything positive at all, but, I guess they would vote Democrat because they are illegal immigrants and they are promised many benefits to voting for that party. Also, just to follow what others are doing. And third would be just because they hate Trump so much.” The picture she paints of the typical Democratic voter being an immigrant, who goes along with their party or simply hates Trump will seem like a strange caricature to most Democratic voters. But her answer seems to lack the animus of many.

Democrats struggled just as much as Republicans. A 33-year-old woman from California told said, “i really am going to have a hard time doing this” but then offered that Republicans “are morally right as in values, … going to protect us from terrorest and immigrants, … going to create jobs.”

Voters like these – baffled but not hostile – would seem to represent an opportunity. Their answers tell us that they might actually be interested in better understanding those at the opposite end of the political spectrum and that motivation could be the first step of a long journey toward reducing incivility and polarization. Whether such voters can long endure in today’s media and social media environment is a critical question – if they can endure and even grow, then the prospects for bipartisan cooperation in areas of shared concern will be possible. If not, polarization will continue to rise.
 

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Um, how about 900 bucks a hammer under Clinton. Thnk I saw Judd Hirsch mention that in "Independence Day". He was referring to black world projects but the opulence, while not back in the day France level is nutz.
Well I think it was kind of shitty (pun intended) of the Kushners to not allow the secret service to use the bathroom. I would have got a permit and installed a porta potty just outside the property.
 
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