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You will know the republic is dead when Free Speech is pulled in its entirety. There are already First Amendment violations on the books and it's backdoored in by Cancel Culture, PC, and complicit Co-Conspirators In the tech world. But when it's finally over the republic will have completely fallen as you will have no ability to voice opposition.

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Chief of Cherokee Nation wants Jeep to stop using tribe’s name on SUVs​

PUBLISHED MON, FEB 22 20212:32 PM ESTUPDATED MON, FEB 22 20213:47 PM EST

Michael Wayland@MIKEWAYLAND
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  • Chuck Hoskin Jr., principal chief of the Cherokee Nation, wants Jeep to stop using the tribe’s name on its SUVs.
  • Jeep said it is “committed to a respectful and open dialogue with Cherokee Nation” and Hoskin.
  • The company has used the Cherokee name for more than 45 years, including for two current SUVs.
2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk

2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk
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The principal chief of the Cherokee Nation wants Jeep to stop using the tribe’s name on its SUVs, saying it “does not honor us by having our name plastered on the side of a car.”
Jeep started using the Cherokee name more than 45 years ago, including on the brand’s top-selling Grand Cherokee SUV. It also offers a smaller SUV called the Cherokee, which was its third best-selling vehicle last year in the U.S.
“I think we’re in a day and age in this country where it’s time for both corporations and team sports to retire the use of Native American names, images and mascots from their products, team jerseys and sports in general,” Chuck Hoskin Jr., principal chief of the Cherokee Nation, said in a statement. “I’m sure this comes from a place that is well-intended, but it does not honor us by having our name plastered on the side of a car.”
Hoskin reiterated those remarks, which were first reported by Car and Driver, in an interview Monday with CNBC. Hoskin doesn’t expect Jeep to immediately change the name of the vehicles, but he said the Cherokee Nation does not condone the use of the name.
H/O: 2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee L

2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee L
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“My view is that a corporation shouldn’t be marketing its products using our name,” Hoskin said. “For the Jeep company, I think they look at it as something they conceived of decades ago, and I think they very much, in good faith, believe this is honoring the Cherokee people. I disagree, and we’ve had this name a bit longer than the Jeep company has. We’ve had it since before recorded history.”
In an emailed statement, Jeep said it is more than ever “committed to a respectful and open dialogue with Cherokee Nation Principal Chief Chuck Hoskin, Jr.” The company said its vehicle names “have been carefully chosen and nurtured over the years to honor and celebrate Native American people for their nobility, prowess, and pride.”
After being contacted by Car and Driver about Hoskin’s statement, several company officials reached out to the Cherokee Nation, according to Hoskin. He characterized the discussions as “good” and “genuine,” but they didn’t change his stance on the issue.

Hoskin said the best way to honor the Cherokee Nation is to learn about its culture and history and “have meaningful dialogue with federally recognized tribes on cultural appropriateness.” When asked whether the tribe would be open to a deal with Jeep to provide royalties or donations from the sale of the Cherokee vehicles, he said such a situation would be “problematic.”
“Financial incentives, things of that nature, to me, don’t remedy the underlying problem,” he said.
Hoskin later said he’s “most encouraged” by the company and its customers potentially even thinking about changing the names. “I’m hopeful over time that things get better.”
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Hoskin’s criticism follows several companies and sports teams stopping the use of brand names and logos that used ethnic stereotypes and caricatures. They have included food brands such as Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben’s changing names or packaging as well as Land O’ Lakes removing the image of a Native American woman from its packaging. Sports teams, including Major League Baseball’s Cleveland Indians and the National Football League’s Washington team, formerly the Redskins, are also dropping Native American imagery and names from their franchises.
Jeep has sold the Grand Cherokee since 1992. A new generation of the vehicle, including a three-row variant, is expected later this year. The company first started using the name Cherokee on vehicles in 1974, according to Car and Driver. After discontinuing the Cherokee name in 2002, it reintroduced a vehicle with that name in 2013.
At that time, a spokeswoman for the Cherokee Nation told The New York Times that the tribe had “encouraged and applauded schools and universities for dropping offensive mascots,” but “institutionally, the tribe does not have a stance on” the Jeep Cherokee. She said Jeep did not consult the Cherokee Nation before announcing the vehicle.

So much I feel like saying, too much really, so I found the perfect GIF(t) for Chuck...and Jeep if they kowtow to him :coffee:

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Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel spoke these words in encouraging America to endorse the genocide convention.
"I know that a law on genocide will not stop future attempts to commit genocide. But at least we, as a moral nation, whose memories are alive, have made this statement: We are against genocide, and we cannot tolerate a world in which genocide is being perpetrated."

It was approved by the US Senate on this day 35 years ago in 1986. ❤️
 

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Today is Japanese American Internment Remembrance Day. On this day in 1942, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066 which authorized the federal government to incarcerate thousands of Japanese Americans. More than 110,000 American citizens and immigrants of Japanese ancestry were forced to leave behind their homes, businesses, and ways of life. Today let's remember internment survivors and all the communities that continue to have their civil liberties violated today.
 

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Today is Japanese American Internment Remembrance Day. On this day in 1942, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066 which authorized the federal government to incarcerate thousands of Japanese Americans. More than 110,000 American citizens and immigrants of Japanese ancestry were forced to leave behind their homes, businesses, and ways of life. Today let's remember internment survivors and all the communities that continue to have their civil liberties violated today.
fdr was horrendous.
 

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I',m willing to die for my righteous cause. What are you willing to do?

20 year old Sophie Scholl was executed on February 22nd, 1943 for leading a student resistance against Hitler. Her last words were, “How can we expect righteousness to prevail when there is hardly anyone willing to give himself up individually for a righteous cause?” She said, “what does my death matter, if through us thousands of people are awakened and stirred to action?” Lord, give us this courage!
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I',m willing to die for my righteous cause. What are you willing to do?

20 year old Sophie Scholl was executed on February 22nd, 1943 for leading a student resistance against Hitler. Her last words were, “How can we expect righteousness to prevail when there is hardly anyone willing to give himself up individually for a righteous cause?” She said, “what does my death matter, if through us thousands of people are awakened and stirred to action?” Lord, give us this courage!
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I would die for my kids and grandkids....for a cause? It depends on the cause.
 

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I',m willing to die for my righteous cause. What are you willing to do?

20 year old Sophie Scholl was executed on February 22nd, 1943 for leading a student resistance against Hitler. Her last words were, “How can we expect righteousness to prevail when there is hardly anyone willing to give himself up individually for a righteous cause?” She said, “what does my death matter, if through us thousands of people are awakened and stirred to action?” Lord, give us this courage!
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You’re not even willing to argue with Trump supporters (we’ll take you at your word that you aren’t one yourself). I’m, uh, skeptical that you’re willing to die for any cause.
 

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It’s a good litmus test on whether people are truly principled or if they’re just agreeing/disagreeing with the poster and not the politics. There are those that state they aren’t Trump supporters, that certainly aren’t lefties, that have no issue disagreeing with Trump supporters (PF09, UT, etc). Then there are those that claim they aren’t Trump supporters but they never find themselves after actually disagreeing with the Trump supporters despite, ostensibly, having disagreements.

I’m not sure if there’s anything else I agreed with Antonin Scalia, but I absolutely agreed with his quote on disagreeing with the principles and not the people. He was dead-on accurate there and there’s more than a few people that could benefit from discussing principle instead of poster:

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It’s a good litmus test on whether people are truly principled or if they’re just agreeing/disagreeing with the poster and not the politics. There are those that state they aren’t Trump supporters, that certainly aren’t lefties, that have no issue disagreeing with Trump supporters (PF09, UT, etc). Then there are those that claim they aren’t Trump supporters but they never find themselves after actually disagreeing with the Trump supporters despite, ostensibly, having disagreements.

I’m not sure if there’s anything else I agreed with Antonin Scalia, but I absolutely agreed with his quote on disagreeing with the principles and not the people. He was dead-on accurate there and there’s more than a few people that could benefit from discussing principle instead of poster:

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There is a notion out there like never before. A lot of people that support Trump will not admit they support Trump. I guess they are embarrassed. Very few times have I ever actually read a message on political boards or facebook, etc that said they are Trump supporter. Usually they will say they don't like either side, or they dont choose sides, etc, then they proceed to agree with everything shitty thing Trump does and anyone who supports trump they will never disagree with. Its odd to say the least. If you support Trump and all he stands for, at least have the balls to say you do, and don't get mad when people say you do by your actions.
 

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It’s a good litmus test on whether people are truly principled or if they’re just agreeing/disagreeing with the poster and not the politics. There are those that state they aren’t Trump supporters, that certainly aren’t lefties, that have no issue disagreeing with Trump supporters (PF09, UT, etc). Then there are those that claim they aren’t Trump supporters but they never find themselves after actually disagreeing with the Trump supporters despite, ostensibly, having disagreements.

I’m not sure if there’s anything else I agreed with Antonin Scalia, but I absolutely agreed with his quote on disagreeing with the principles and not the people. He was dead-on accurate there and there’s more than a few people that could benefit from discussing principle instead of poster:

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hypocrisy​

Pronunciation /həˈpäkrəsē/ /həˈpɑkrəsi/​

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NOUNhypocrisies​


  • The practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.
 

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You’re not even willing to argue with Trump supporters (we’ll take you at your word that you aren’t one yourself). I’m, uh, skeptical that you’re willing to die for any cause.
You are so fixated on your Trump hatred you can't see past it, anyone that doesn't agree with you is a Trump swab or whatever other stupid name you want to call us. So how about you, what are you willing to die for?
 
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