rivshark86
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Please do not bring back Jimmy.
Yeah just wait. Mac Jones' stock is all over the place but has been trending up for the past 6 weeks. I see Mac Jones as an efficient ball distributor. He has a good enough arm to throw folks open on short to intermediate routes and he's accurate enough to avoid ints very well. He's not a guy who will throw GO routes or deep posts so if that's what you want it's time to move on. If you want a guy who is athletic enough to pull it down to avoid a sack and then throw on the run, he's not your guy there either so move again.
Chris Simms is mostly an idiot but he's predicted the QB rankings of the last 3 drafts pretty damn well. By his admission, he chooses his rankings primarily based on "attributes that are translatable to the NFL" and not on wins or arm strength which he says are big myths overblown by social media.
These are his QB rankings the last 3 drafts. I remember his Lamar Jackson pick for #1 and I laughed at it. Then LJ comes out and plays like a wild man. Josh Allen ahead of Mayfield? Yeah, looks right now, doesn't it.
Ok so where am I going with this?
Here
View: https://twitter.com/CSimmsQB/status/1367121407075897346
Anyone want to weigh in on BB's potential interest in Kellen Mond? Asking for a friend who wants to know who BB's outlier QB pick is going to be.
and here - this is absolutely worth a listen
View: https://www.nbcsports.com/video/byus-zach-wilson-clemsons-trevor-lawrence-top-2021-nfl-draft-qb-rankings?ls=pftvod
And little to show for it.The Steelers had a ten year run or so of some great drafting at the WR position.
And little to show for it.
WR is a luxury position. Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, AJ Green - these guys don't have rings. And no one ever says that they want to join a team because they want to play next to some WR.
And little to show for it.
WR is a luxury position. Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, AJ Green - these guys don't have rings. And no one ever says that they want to join a team because they want to play next to some WR.
Well, you do kinda need them though...unless you have someone who can catch a ball and not fumble it.And little to show for it.
WR is a luxury position. Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, AJ Green - these guys don't have rings. And no one ever says that they want to join a team because they want to play next to some WR.
If he could ever stay healthy, he would be actually ideal...but, that's the key.Please do not bring back Jimmy.
That's why you need more than one of them...I'll partially agree with you, but think it's more of an overrated thing than a luxury. If you happen to have a top WR then he can be taken away by a good defense with
scheme/double teams, but that creates opportunity elsewhere. In short, I think it is more important to have several capable receivers than a superstar and then a dropoff.
One of the more surprising things about the Pats last season was that we didn't give opponents any reason to double any of our receivers and teams stacked the box
with 8 guys regularly and we still ran the ball very effectively. Next year is a whole different scenario and the chemistry/personnel in the run game will likely be
different, but I can't help thinking what we could accomplish with one or two viable receivers to keep teams from stepping up.
I keep hearing that our personnel sucks and it'll take years to rebuild, blah, blah, blah, but I don't really believe we are that far away or can't compete without a superstar
QB.
I do agree that you don't have to use your top draft picks for them...yes! But, when the draft gives you value, don't overlook a good option. The Steelers are among the best team(s) that do hit on their WR draft picks. There's no denying that.And little to show for it.
WR is a luxury position. Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, AJ Green - these guys don't have rings. And no one ever says that they want to join a team because they want to play next to some WR.
I do agree that you don't have to use your top draft picks for them...yes! But, when the draft gives you value, don't overlook a good option. The Steelers are among the best team(s) that do hit on their WR draft picks. There's no denying that.
I'm pretty sure that we're on the same page. Most of us here are...we just have to get BB to listen to us more!
Yup...power forward's can translate to TE's fairly well...I know that a few rugby and wrestling stars can translate as well. Edelman was a QB in college. Yup. Peterman was a wrestler. Agreed. BB tried to sign the Ohio State Buckeye QB as a WR. He never offered him enough, He was drafted as a Raider. He played for the Browns and Redskins.Yes, capable wide receivers and tight ends are important. However, it's not a position that is difficult to master - you can take a former lacrosse player and turn him into a two-time Super Bowl champion. Or you can take a former Kent State QB and turn him into the person who is second all-time in playoff receptions, with three Super Bowl rings.
Why, there's even a non-Patriots team that took a former basketball player and turned him into that franchise's all-time leader in receptions, reception yards, and reception TDs. At the TE position.
So sure, if there's good value to be had when it's time to make a draft pick or spend money on a free agent, then take the value. But don't reach for a WR - good QBs make NFL-average WRs look great. Great WRs can't elevate average NFL QBs.
GM 101.I'll partially agree with you, but think it's more of an overrated thing than a luxury. If you happen to have a top WR then he can be taken away by a good defense with
scheme/double teams, but that creates opportunity elsewhere. In short, I think it is more important to have several capable receivers than a superstar and then a dropoff.
One of the more surprising things about the Pats last season was that we didn't give opponents any reason to double any of our receivers and teams stacked the box
with 8 guys regularly and we still ran the ball very effectively. Next year is a whole different scenario and the chemistry/personnel in the run game will likely be
different, but I can't help thinking what we could accomplish with one or two viable receivers to keep teams from stepping up.
I keep hearing that our personnel sucks and it'll take years to rebuild, blah, blah, blah, but I don't really believe we are that far away or can't compete without a superstar
QB.
GM 101.
BB knew that going into the Giants' SB with Moss and Welker. We saw it happen and it wasn't pretty.
Give me 2 guys who fit into tier 2 and 1 guy who fits into tier 3 over a Julio any day of the week.
Very realistic at a minimum.Going into this season, I'm thinking Edelman will be back and productive. Likely diminished, but still making plays and forcing
a defense to pay attention to him. Jakoby Meyers is a solid 3 and I expect him to continue to improve. He was pretty damn good
last year and there were times when he was it He should benefit from better talent around him. I expect zero from Harry,
but it's possible that he becomes useful. I'll call it a longshot.
We need a playmaker with speed on the outside and a capable TE who can catch on 3rd down. Oh, and also a QB who is better than Cam Newton.
I expect all of those things are realistic goals, if not a lock, with TE being the position least likely to be addressed.