The 2021 Draft- We Need This One

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TipRoast said:
2008 - Matthew Slater in the 5th round. Named to 9 Pro Bowls and has been All Pro twice.

And there was no 1st round draft pick in 2008 because of Goodell mishandling the Mangini-Belichick feud.



2009 - Patrick Chung. Very solid starter for many years here.
2009 - Julian Edelman. MVP of Super Bowl 53. Second all-time in post-season receptions.



2011 - Marcus Cannon. Versatile swing tackle.



2012 - Nate Ebner. 6th round choice that played for the Patriots for 8 years. Not every 6th round pick is going to be the GOAT at his position.



2014 - Belichick also picked up Malcom Butler this year as a UDFA. UDFAs aren't freebies, they've been scouted and evaluated too, and represent an investment in resources by Belichick and his assistants.



2015 - Another UDFA, David Andrews, was picked up as part of the incoming class of rookies.



Another 1st round draft pick stolen by Goodell.

Malcom Mitchell, Elandon Roberts, and Ted Karras - all solid picks, but knee problems derailed Mitchell's career. But he made a key reception in the Super Bowl vs. the Falcons, falling down on his route but getting back up and still catching the ball.

Add Jonathan Jones as a UDFA.



The fourth round pick was part of the deflategate heist by Goodell.

Detriech Wise is still on the team from that draft. As is UDFA Adam Butler






2019 draft yielded an All Pro in the 5th round - Jake Bailey



Yeah, you rushed it. In other words, you know you posted a biased and incomplete evaluation, but you'd rather do that than put in the time to give Belichick's work a fair assessment.

And I only mentioned a few of the UDFAs that have worked out - Jakobi Myers and J.C. Jackson are two more deserving of mention.
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OT is a huge need in this draft for a player to be ready to go in 2022. This is Wynn's 4th year and I doubt his option gets picked up unless he really picks up his play this year. Trent Brown is on a 1 yr deal so both may have to be replaced for 2022.

This article by Phil Perry shows this class is loaded with OT talent. This is a very good year to be needing an OT.

www.nbcsports.com

Perry's Prototypical Patriots: Which OTs are best fits in New England?

Offensive tackle is a bigger need than many realize for the Patriots. Luckily for them, this is a deep tackle class and there are many options the team could consider. Phil Perry profiles his top targets.
www.nbcsports.com www.nbcsports.com

Walter Football's OT rankings are here with an estimate of round to be picked.

2021 NFL Draft Prospects: Offensive Tackles – WalterFootball

walterfootball.com walterfootball.com

I'm kind of liking Spencer Brown as a good value for the Pats.

I hope Hawg can help us out
 
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chevss454 said:
OT is a huge need in this draft for a player to be ready to go in 2022. This is Wynn's 4th year and I doubt his option gets picked up unless he really picks up his play this year. Trent Brown is on a 1 yr deal so both may have to be replaced for 2022.

This article by Phil Perry shows this class is loaded with OT talent. This is a very good year to be needing an OT.

www.nbcsports.com

Perry's Prototypical Patriots: Which OTs are best fits in New England?

Offensive tackle is a bigger need than many realize for the Patriots. Luckily for them, this is a deep tackle class and there are many options the team could consider. Phil Perry profiles his top targets.
www.nbcsports.com www.nbcsports.com

Walter Football's OT rankings are here with an estimate of round to be picked.

2021 NFL Draft Prospects: Offensive Tackles – WalterFootball

walterfootball.com walterfootball.com

I'm kind of liking Spencer Brown as a good value for the Pats.

I hope Hawg can help us out
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BB went heavy on O-line last 2 drafts . WR , QB , CB & ILB should be this years .
 
chevss454 said:
OT is a huge need in this draft for a player to be ready to go in 2022. This is Wynn's 4th year and I doubt his option gets picked up unless he really picks up his play this year. Trent Brown is on a 1 yr deal so both may have to be replaced for 2022.

This article by Phil Perry shows this class is loaded with OT talent. This is a very good year to be needing an OT.

www.nbcsports.com

Perry's Prototypical Patriots: Which OTs are best fits in New England?

Offensive tackle is a bigger need than many realize for the Patriots. Luckily for them, this is a deep tackle class and there are many options the team could consider. Phil Perry profiles his top targets.
www.nbcsports.com www.nbcsports.com

Walter Football's OT rankings are here with an estimate of round to be picked.

2021 NFL Draft Prospects: Offensive Tackles – WalterFootball

walterfootball.com walterfootball.com

I'm kind of liking Spencer Brown as a good value for the Pats.

I hope Hawg can help us out
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I'm more familiar with the interior guys right now because I like to watch these guys play full games against good competition and last year was a shitshow for a lot of guys and teams, so --I'm behind the curve at this point.

I've watched Sewell and he is just ridiculously athletic for a guy his size and has zero regard for the guy he's blocking. I've seen him just knock guys senseless and then go looking for another victim, but I haven't seen him face anybody with a hard outside rush yet. I figure he can be trained to do anything at a high level and should be all-pro before long. To me he is the Mekhi Becton of this class and the clear favorite. He plays a little too upright, but it doesn't seem to matter. All the potential in the world, but you have to project a little because his experience level is simply not there. Like a few others.

I'm impressed with Vera-Tucker and think he is a solid 1st rounder, but I like him better as a guard. He's good at everything, but doesn't seem dominant at anything. He seems to be a safe pick and appears to be a mature and motivated kid.

Rashawn Slater seems a little oversold to me and looks quite similar to Vera-Tucker. A solid, competitive, strong guy whose marginal length might signal a move inside. I keep seeing him mocked to the middle of the first round, but I think that is too high.

I'm not impressed with Eichenberg at all and think he gets too much praise because he's a Golden Domer. Definitely a right tackle and should not be taken before day 3. I'm trying to stop comparing guys to others from the same program, because that can be misleading, but he really reminds me of ND's Mike McGlinchey who was way overdrafted by the Niners and was getting destroyed (along with his QBs) on the pass rush last season. Eichenberg can probably play in the NFL, but I would not want him in Foxboro.

Two guys that might outplay their draft slots are Sam Cosmi -- who checks almost every box (unlike most of them he had 34 starts at Texas) and put up freakishly good numbers at his pro day this past week. He doesn't look massive, but plays strong with advanced technique. I don't know why he isn't ranked higher among draft people. This guy has the film and the numbers. The other one is Walker Little of Stanford who didn't play much due to a knee in 2019 and then opted out last season, but Paul Fitzgerald, who is an outstanding OL guru, had high praise for Little stating he could start right away at LT as a rookie and perform very well. Apparently he is one of those relative unknowns that will be a better pro than College player. When Fitzgerald says stuff like that NFL teams should listen.

In general it looks like an unusually deep class (mostly RTs), but Sewell is the only guy I would go out of my way to watch. There will be good players selected on day 3 when in some recent years the well was pretty much dry by then. I would be surprised if the Pats take an OT in the first two days, but expect we'll get one.

I've been keeping a candle burning for Yodny Cajuste since we drafted him, but he's been hurt for two years running. He better get healthy for 2021, but I'm not holding my breath.

Justin Herron would have likely been a rookie redshirt (to add some muscle) in a typical year, but we had to play him before he was really ready. I think he held up pretty well and is an interesting guy with good feet and movement skills but can see a need to continue to develop the pipeline so we never again have to try to run an offense with a Jermaine Eluemunor or Marshall Newhouse taking meaningful snaps. I think Herron is the leader in the clubhouse to be our backup swing T, but has to improve his strength a fair bit. He seems to have everything else to serve that role for now while he gains experience. The way he survived the rookie gauntlet speaks well for his chances to solidify his role.
 
chevss454 said:
OT is a huge need in this draft for a player to be ready to go in 2022. This is Wynn's 4th year and I doubt his option gets picked up unless he really picks up his play this year. Trent Brown is on a 1 yr deal so both may have to be replaced for 2022.

This article by Phil Perry shows this class is loaded with OT talent. This is a very good year to be needing an OT.

www.nbcsports.com

Perry's Prototypical Patriots: Which OTs are best fits in New England?

Offensive tackle is a bigger need than many realize for the Patriots. Luckily for them, this is a deep tackle class and there are many options the team could consider. Phil Perry profiles his top targets.
www.nbcsports.com www.nbcsports.com

Walter Football's OT rankings are here with an estimate of round to be picked.

2021 NFL Draft Prospects: Offensive Tackles – WalterFootball

walterfootball.com walterfootball.com

I'm kind of liking Spencer Brown as a good value for the Pats.

I hope Hawg can help us out
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Walterfootball has become my go-to draft site (after this forum) the last few years. Drafttek as well.

gomezcat said:
I thought Hawg was a Guard. However, far be it from me to doubt our esteemed moderator's ability to move out to Tackle.
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Ha ha. That was my first thing that jumped into my brain when I saw that. Do you think if Hawg does give the OLine a hand will he still be able to post here in the months before the draft?
 
I've read where the Clemson tackle might be one of the best in the draft...but, he has character issues. Jackson Carman. Walter football site keeps propping him and Stevenson (Houston WR) way up. Also Tedarrell Slaton (Gators DI).
 
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They made the worst draft picks from BB era. I can’t disagree with any of choices. They didnt include 2020 that would be the kicker that never played a down .
patriotswire.usatoday.com

The Patriots' worst draft pick from each offseason of the Bill Belichick era

Bill Belichick has built a Hall of Fame resume in his 45 years in the NFL. Nobody has accomplished as much as he has as a coach, leader of men and general manager, The legendary New England Patriot…
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king of kings said:
They made the worst draft picks from BB era. I can’t disagree with any of choices. They didnt include 2020 that would be the kicker that never played a down .
patriotswire.usatoday.com

The Patriots' worst draft pick from each offseason of the Bill Belichick era

Bill Belichick has built a Hall of Fame resume in his 45 years in the NFL. Nobody has accomplished as much as he has as a coach, leader of men and general manager, The legendary New England Patriot…
patriotswire.usatoday.com patriotswire.usatoday.com

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Eh, a kicker in the 5th isn't nearly as bad as a secondary pick in the 2nd...numerous times.
 
Hawg73 said:
I'm more familiar with the interior guys right now because I like to watch these guys play full games against good competition and last year was a shitshow for a lot of guys and teams, so --I'm behind the curve at this point.

I've watched Sewell and he is just ridiculously athletic for a guy his size and has zero regard for the guy he's blocking. I've seen him just knock guys senseless and then go looking for another victim, but I haven't seen him face anybody with a hard outside rush yet. I figure he can be trained to do anything at a high level and should be all-pro before long. To me he is the Mekhi Becton of this class and the clear favorite. He plays a little too upright, but it doesn't seem to matter. All the potential in the world, but you have to project a little because his experience level is simply not there. Like a few others.

I'm impressed with Vera-Tucker and think he is a solid 1st rounder, but I like him better as a guard. He's good at everything, but doesn't seem dominant at anything. He seems to be a safe pick and appears to be a mature and motivated kid.

Rashawn Slater seems a little oversold to me and looks quite similar to Vera-Tucker. A solid, competitive, strong guy whose marginal length might signal a move inside. I keep seeing him mocked to the middle of the first round, but I think that is too high.

I'm not impressed with Eichenberg at all and think he gets too much praise because he's a Golden Domer. Definitely a right tackle and should not be taken before day 3. I'm trying to stop comparing guys to others from the same program, because that can be misleading, but he really reminds me of ND's Mike McGlinchey who was way overdrafted by the Niners and was getting destroyed (along with his QBs) on the pass rush last season. Eichenberg can probably play in the NFL, but I would not want him in Foxboro.

Two guys that might outplay their draft slots are Sam Cosmi -- who checks almost every box (unlike most of them he had 34 starts at Texas) and put up freakishly good numbers at his pro day this past week. He doesn't look massive, but plays strong with advanced technique. I don't know why he isn't ranked higher among draft people. This guy has the film and the numbers. The other one is Walker Little of Stanford who didn't play much due to a knee in 2019 and then opted out last season, but Paul Fitzgerald, who is an outstanding OL guru, had high praise for Little stating he could start right away at LT as a rookie and perform very well. Apparently he is one of those relative unknowns that will be a better pro than College player. When Fitzgerald says stuff like that NFL teams should listen.

In general it looks like an unusually deep class (mostly RTs), but Sewell is the only guy I would go out of my way to watch. There will be good players selected on day 3 when in some recent years the well was pretty much dry by then. I would be surprised if the Pats take an OT in the first two days, but expect we'll get one.

I've been keeping a candle burning for Yodny Cajuste since we drafted him, but he's been hurt for two years running. He better get healthy for 2021, but I'm not holding my breath.

Justin Herron would have likely been a rookie redshirt (to add some muscle) in a typical year, but we had to play him before he was really ready. I think he held up pretty well and is an interesting guy with good feet and movement skills but can see a need to continue to develop the pipeline so we never again have to try to run an offense with a Jermaine Eluemunor or Marshall Newhouse taking meaningful snaps. I think Herron is the leader in the clubhouse to be our backup swing T, but has to improve his strength a fair bit. He seems to have everything else to serve that role for now while he gains experience. The way he survived the rookie gauntlet speaks well for his chances to solidify his role.
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OT Teven Jenkins from Oklahoma St. has been getting a lot of press lately. I only watched one Okie St. game & half assed at that so I don't much about him.
 
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