post tenebras lux
- Nov 7, 2006
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- IN the world, but not OF the world
Yes, but in the context that there is no such thing as absolute certainty. I could even argue that complete acceptance with 100% certainty is a display of insanity.
The term itself might be meaningless, but the existence of faith definitely is not. It is, in fact, quite powerful and meaningful.We agree that there is no such thing as absolute certainty (about external reality, at least)... but if lacking certainty is faith doesn't that make faith a meaningless term?
Said otherwise, if faith is defined as accepting something without certainty, and all beliefs are uncertain, isn't "faith" as a term redundant?
The term itself might be meaningless, but the existence of faith definitely is not. It is, in fact, quite powerful and meaningful.
No, because this erroneously assumes all uncertainty is equal in all individuals.
The existence of faith. Faith is powerful and meaningful.Existence of what? Uncertainty? Believing despite uncertainty? You're juggling a lot of balls here and it still isn't particularly consistent.
Yes.So all beliefs are uncertain but some of more uncertain than others?
It depends on the person and the object of faith.What defines whether something is more or less certain?
The existence of faith. Faith is powerful and meaningful.
Faith moves people to do incredible things! You can't just dismiss it and call it "meaningless" because you can't define it the way you like.Since faith is merely a belief in the absence of certainty and all beliefs involving the external world contain uncertainty, why is faith powerful? How does this not make the concept entirely meaningless?
Faith moves people to do incredible things! You can't just dismiss it and call it "meaningless" because you can't define it the way you like.
I merely pointed out that your definition makes it meaningless. If you don't like that assessment, then provide a better definition.
Why? I'm fine with my definition. You are the one creating all these hoops to jump through. If you have a case to make, make it.
He sounds like the perfect guy to lead your new religious revolution.
Also, side note: Hell is real. We can go there right now and visit if we were so inclined. (I wouldn't recommend it). It's not a place you go to be tormented for picking the wrong sky guy though. It's where you go when you **** up too many times. More of a mental state than a physical place although many places have a physical address to go with it.