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Oh, that's wonderful. I hope more and more companies consider transitioning to a remote workforce. I would consider moving to the middle of nowhere .... well, MORE the middle of nowhere than I am already, if I knew remote work could be permanent.
Why are you mad at TBL? She has just come back.
 

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I'll keep mine simple: Overall theme...Isolation from just about everything dear to me:
Inability to worship in a temple (until lately) but now by reservation only if your lucky and no gathering afterward to shake, hug, greet, etc.
Closing of live music venues, large and small. and festivals of all sorts. Dining restricitons.
Summer beach activities with friends, Gatherings with families, friends, neighbors at each others homes, residences.
Weddings canceled, or were postponed and limited just to just family. Support for funerals.
Farmer markets finally opened again but not the same
Affected me I could not support my wife in person during a major operation and extended recovery. Over it now.
Not able to see both my aging parents who are in skilled nursing all by themselves to try and lift their spirits. Still not over it
Everything feels like prison.

Positives: I walk a lot more. Do yard work a lot more. Cleaned/ing out my garage. Learned to use zoom and watch more HGTV shows and the like.

OveralI could of handle it all for probably 1st 3 mos. but the more I learned about the disease, I am getting more and more pissed and believe there is a lot more to it than public safety. Sorry, slightly political I guess.

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Oh that's awful P71, my sympathies. I knew when I posted there would be people that had some unfortunate experience with this virus. Thank you for sharing.
The worse part about it, is just the fighting that goes on with Americans when we should be together on this to overcome it. As we talked about before everything becomes political. Its depressing.
 

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As with others, my last day in an office was 3/13. The owner of our small agency was hell bent against people working from home, if you needed to be home for any reason, you needed to use PTO or sick time. In the following 7 months, productivity is unchanged, he's not renewing the $15K/mo lease on an overly big office space and the earliest we'll return to any in-office work is after the new year. I love getting 2 hours/day of my life back and my 90 yr old mom does not want me going back. I know others in agency feel the same way. Best guess is that he'll rent a few cubes and begin to bring people back sometime next spring.

My wife has never left her office, the nature of substance abuse counseling does not afford that luxury. Her agency was saved by the PPP loan, received when she had just a few weeks of revenue left. They transitioned to more online counseling and groups, although that is less than ideal and she hates it. Her agency depends on the court system and she's seeing an uptick in referrals just in time because the PPP funds are nearing an end. If the courts have to close down again, she'll need another lifeline or possibly see a lifetime of work go under (just passed their 25th year in business).

On the virus front, my mother lost her cousin early on, a nursing home victim, and one of my wife's good friends lost both in-laws. My wife almost lost her sister who got caught in the Arizona surge. She spent 4 days in the hospital, 2 in ICU. She still has lingering effects 3 moths later, but having more good days than bad. One of my wife's office workers was diagnosed in May, she had to shut down for 5 days, but no one else in the office tested positive.

We've been enjoying outdoor dining, slowly moving indoors, but choosing our spots. Going to places when we know they won't be busy. In June, we began getting together with a few people who we know are taking the virus seriously and doing the simple things starting with masks.

Stay safe everyone.
Sorry to hear about your losses. Our friend who lost her Husband also still has lingering affects from July. Scar tissue on lungs has been the worse part of it. One thing that has happened and to others as well is
depression, working from home which I thought would be good, has really caused some depression, and I heard that with others as well, for different reasons. Its like we are all venturing into uncharted waters. Glad you guys are doing good now.
Stay safe.
 

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After the initial shock (about 90 days) we were allowed to see our grand kids again. We used to get them aabout once a month, at the same time from our three sons, not anymore. When I get to see some of them, you can tell how the stay at home orders have turned them into loners and it is really sad. Completely differnet personalities, and hopefully it will only be temporary.
 

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Its been bad on my end. Our best friends husband died in July. We have known them for around 25 years. He got sick, like flue like symptoms. He went to doctor, they did not have quick results tests at that point, so he waited 3 days
and got results back, by that point he was really sick, he was checked into the hospital, and a day later was put on a respirator. He had a rebound where they were even thinking about taking him off the respirator, but he sadly passed away that night. He was 43. He worked at a local pharm company for 20 years. He left a 4 year old daughter and wife. I work as a Senior systems Manager at a school district, and its been awful. Not only the spread that has happened, but
also trying to keep kids going on distance learning. We have had a lot of cases, but school districts keep those pretty quiet. I have worked from home since March. We currently are doing Parent choice of sending their students in
or doing home learning. My wife and I are 49, she is a teacher for another school district, and its been pretty scary. Nobody wants things to get back to normal more than I, but I am not sure that will happen until
we get a vaccine that can control the spread a bit better. I know this is a hot bed of opinions, but I try to keep my family and everyone we come in contact with as safe as possible. I have read many stories of conflicting things, and frankly I
am not taking any chances. I have 3 grown kids and 2 grandkids and they are my life.
That is heartbreaking So sorry to hear that and that poor baby girl I can't even nor do I want to imagine!

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As with others, my last day in an office was 3/13. The owner of our small agency was hell bent against people working from home, if you needed to be home for any reason, you needed to use PTO or sick time. In the following 7 months, productivity is unchanged, he's not renewing the $15K/mo lease on an overly big office space and the earliest we'll return to any in-office work is after the new year. I love getting 2 hours/day of my life back and my 90 yr old mom does not want me going back. I know others in agency feel the same way. Best guess is that he'll rent a few cubes and begin to bring people back sometime next spring.

My wife has never left her office, the nature of substance abuse counseling does not afford that luxury. Her agency was saved by the PPP loan, received when she had just a few weeks of revenue left. They transitioned to more online counseling and groups, although that is less than ideal and she hates it. Her agency depends on the court system and she's seeing an uptick in referrals just in time because the PPP funds are nearing an end. If the courts have to close down again, she'll need another lifeline or possibly see a lifetime of work go under (just passed their 25th year in business).

On the virus front, my mother lost her cousin early on, a nursing home victim, and one of my wife's good friends lost both in-laws. My wife almost lost her sister who got caught in the Arizona surge. She spent 4 days in the hospital, 2 in ICU. She still has lingering effects 3 moths later, but having more good days than bad. One of my wife's office workers was diagnosed in May, she had to shut down for 5 days, but no one else in the office tested positive.

We've been enjoying outdoor dining, slowly moving indoors, but choosing our spots. Going to places when we know they won't be busy. In June, we began getting together with a few people who we know are taking the virus seriously and doing the simple things starting with masks.

Stay safe everyone.
Bid good to see you here. Sorry for your losses and hope you and the wifey stay safe!

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Great thread, UT! I know that I had told you that I haven't looked at this forum for years, but this new board is showing me all the great threads that I have been missing. So, you can expect to see more of me now. Whether or not anyone will consider that to be a good thing is to be determined. ;)

Since I have already posted a lot about how COVID has affected me personally in the political version of this thread, I won't repeat all of that again. However, I would like to share a story. While it will be about someone else, it is not meant to be in criticism; but merely as a warning in case anyone else would contemplate doing this.

The story comes to me from a nurse who had a patient that had multiple issues . . . confusion, nausea, heart arrhythmia, and loss of consciousness. The culprit was vitamin D. The patient had heard that vitamin D would prevent COVID. So, the individual bought two bottles of them in the gummy form. I don't know if it was a case of them just tasting so good that the person couldn't stop or if it was a case of the person thinking that if one a day is good, then 50 a day would be even better; but the patient had consumed two bottles of vitamin D supplements in two days.

The moral of the story: Too much of a good thing can be a bad thing . . . unless, of course, you are talking about something like winning Super Bowls. :)
 

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wow, were there any health repercussions from consuming all those?
My dad takes gummy probiotics but they are administered by the staff at the retirement place, thank goodness.
I take C, D3, zinc, and a multivitamin daily. no gummies! mainly because i would rather get my sugar from m &ms or ice cream than vitamins! 😄
 

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My wife and I have both been working at home since mid March. We had to build a makeshift office for her, and at least logistically that has worked out fine. We are not in each others way and can do our work. We see each other at lunch. I work in engineering sales and face to face discussions and being in labs is part of my gig. Trying to do that online is ridiculous and unproductive. Online meetings will never replace face to face discussions in my field. I'd have zero concerns about going back to normal work right now. At some point it will become evident that this can't go on as it is, and that the measures taken are creating more pain than the situation itself. Vulnerable people can be protected without mass unemployment and destruction of livelihoods. I have several good friends who have had it, all were highly vulnerable, one is a Down syndrome man who is severely disabled and wheelchair bound, one is elderly and disabled, one has cancer. All recovered quickly. I have friends who have lost jobs and businesses, more that I can count. I feel badly for those with school age kids who are managing either working from home and dealing with kids, or trying to support themselves and a family with no prospects in sight for this to end. I despise those who make it their business to pontificate to others about masks, social distancing and show no concern for the healthy victims of all these restrictions. I feel badly for friends with parents in assisted living who were not able to visit for months, while their lonely elders sat abandoned and unable to comprehend. Try showing a dementia patient how to use Zoom. What bullshit. Utter cruelty is what it is. This is going to end because it has to, and the sooner people figure out that you can't shut the world down forever, the better.
 

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The most affected in my family is my 18 yo son. When this started he was a senior in HS. It sucks that all the stuff that you look forward to gets canceled. Proms, sports. His last season of baseball was canceled. Now he has started college at Providence College. He is on campus and has in person classes. But otherwise he stays in his dorm room. There was an outbreak a few weeks ago and he was sent home. Fortunately we live 20 minutes from school. He is back on campus and doing well. I feel bad for the juniors because the opportunity to study abroad his not happening this year.
 

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wow, were there any health repercussions from consuming all those?
My dad takes gummy probiotics but they are administered by the staff at the retirement place, thank goodness.
I take C, D3, zinc, and a multivitamin daily. no gummies! mainly because i would rather get my sugar from m &ms or ice cream than vitamins! 😄
C, D3, zinc, and a multi is fantastic. There’s a regular Doc on Fox that recommends to all his patients. Swears it’s the best immune boosting concoction the public can take in initial prevention. No cure. But will help your bodies own immune response.
 

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My wife and I have both been working at home since mid March. We had to build a makeshift office for her, and at least logistically that has worked out fine. We are not in each others way and can do our work. We see each other at lunch. I work in engineering sales and face to face discussions and being in labs is part of my gig. Trying to do that online is ridiculous and unproductive. Online meetings will never replace face to face discussions in my field. I'd have zero concerns about going back to normal work right now. At some point it will become evident that this can't go on as it is, and that the measures taken are creating more pain than the situation itself. Vulnerable people can be protected without mass unemployment and destruction of livelihoods. I have several good friends who have had it, all were highly vulnerable, one is a Down syndrome man who is severely disabled and wheelchair bound, one is elderly and disabled, one has cancer. All recovered quickly. I have friends who have lost jobs and businesses, more that I can count. I feel badly for those with school age kids who are managing either working from home and dealing with kids, or trying to support themselves and a family with no prospects in sight for this to end. I despise those who make it their business to pontificate to others about masks, social distancing and show no concern for the healthy victims of all these restrictions. I feel badly for friends with parents in assisted living who were not able to visit for months, while their lonely elders sat abandoned and unable to comprehend. Try showing a dementia patient how to use Zoom. What bullshit. Utter cruelty is what it is. This is going to end because it has to, and the sooner people figure out that you can't shut the world down forever, the better.
Two children.

Oldest started college. She’s disappointed her Senior year got wiped out and now college freshman is remote. But she’s fiercely independent and coping fine.

Youngest is a freshman in HS. Always been an A/B student with Honor Roll grades almost every grading period. He’s struggling. He’s depressed. He NEEDS the social and routine and structure. Finds it much harder to do remote, and they aren’t doing much.

This setup blows. It’s not right. And the WHO is now admitting it.
 
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Please....

Do not bring the thread into debate about policy around the virus.
 
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Please....

Do not bring the thread into debate about policy around the virus.

This was not directed at any one person, but the whole thread as I have seen a few posts talking about or railing against policy. I understand not everyone agrees with the policies around the virus, but please debate that in the other thread.

The intention of this thread was to be more personal in how it's affected your life.
 

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I will also add that my oldest got covid, a while back, I posted on it in another thread. He had a rough couple of days and scared the family. We all rallied around him to feed him him and give him emotional support. Came through it fine, but scared him enough to get him to quit working for a property management company in Mass during the initial run up. My father is in a nursing home in Manch that was one of the first in the state to lock down. He got one personal visit from his grand daughter during a brief respite from the lock down. He has always been melancholy so it is hard to tell the total extent that this has effected him. We used to send him restaurant food every couple of weeks or so, but in the last couple of months, he has started refusing them and will only talk on the phone for a minute or so, five at the most.
 

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I will also add that my oldest got covid, a while back, I posted on it in another thread. He had a rough couple of days and scared the family. We all rallied around him to feed him him and give him emotional support. Came through it fine, but scared him enough to get him to quit working for a property management company in Mass during the initial run up. My father is in a nursing home in Manch that was one of the first in the state to lock down. He got one personal visit from his grand daughter during a brief respite from the lock down. He has always been melancholy so it is hard to tell the total extent that this has effected him. We used to send him restaurant food every couple of weeks or so, but in the last couple of months, he has started refusing them and will only talk on the phone for a minute or so, five at the most.
I am so sorry you're going through this with your Dad. Older folk need personal interaction and for many, given physical restrictions, having loved ones near is all they have. This aspect of restrictions bothers me more than anything. I have considered that I am almost glad my mom passed a few years ago because the thought of her being alone through all this would be unbearable for me. I have so many friends in the same position as you, and have had several in tears and distraught over it.
 

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I feel badly for friends with parents in assisted living who were not able to visit for months, while their lonely elders sat abandoned and unable to comprehend. Try showing a dementia patient how to use Zoom. What bullshit. Utter cruelty is what it is.

This is exactly what happened in my situation. Mom had dementia and was in a nursing home for five months when the virus forced the doors to be closed to the public on March 12th. Limited staff tried to FaceTime on occasion and mom struggled terribly because she didn't understand nor could she hear because they lost her hearing aids. The fact that I couldn't visit her to keep things in check was frustrating. On May 30th she was transported to the hospital alone after a minor fall. She was unable to answer when they asked "Did you hit your head?" so they felt it best she be sent to the hospital for X-rays. The next day she was gone. A pulmonary embolism led to respiratory failure. She passed comfortably and the hospital staff handled it well, but she was alone without family due to Coronavirus restrictions.

Five days later there was a small funeral with a limit of ten people social distancing.

"Utter cruelty" is an understatement.
 
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