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𝗧𝗥𝗘𝗡𝗗𝗜𝗡𝗚: #Chiefs superstar TE Travis Kelce says he thinks about retirement “more than anyone could ever imagine.”Kelce mentions the lingering pain from injuries, along with the multiple surgeries he’s had to undergo during his long career.“That’s the only thing I’ve never really been open about, the discomfort. The pain. The lingering injuries… the 10 surgeries I’ve had that I still feel every single surgery to this day.”Kelce has nothing left to prove — he’s won multiple super bowls and established himself as arguably the best tight end the game has ever seen. He could retire right now and be a first ballot HOF’er. He also has a bright future with
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𝗧𝗥𝗘𝗡𝗗𝗜𝗡𝗚: #Chiefs superstar TE Travis Kelce says he thinks about retirement “more than anyone could ever imagine.”Kelce mentions the lingering pain from injuries, along with the multiple surgeries he’s had to undergo during his long career.“That’s the only thing I’ve never really been open about, the discomfort. The pain. The lingering injuries… the 10 surgeries I’ve had that I still feel every single surgery to this day.”Kelce has nothing left to prove — he’s won multiple super bowls and established himself as arguably the best tight end the game has ever seen. He could retire right now and be a first ballot HOF’er. He also has a bright future with
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In every way, including receiving that many people think Kelce is better at.
Who would any honest person pick with both TEs at their peak. It would be Gronk every single time.
TommyD420
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Because people don't care if Tight Ends block anymore. If they did, Gronkowski would be head and shoulders over everyone else.
Also, the fact that Gronkowski was made of sugar glass works against him in these discussions.
You have ti admit, Gronk, at his peak, was virtually unplayable. He destroyed DBs and ruined careers.
Remember that game at Pitt when he scored and basically laughed at the Steeler DB who was trying to cover him?!
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Kelce is a smoother receiver, has been better able to stay on the field, and has remained at his best for longer. Gronk was the vastly superior player at his peak, but there's an argument to be made for choosing Kelce.
TommyD420
Joe Milton is my QB1
Sure, and I also remember him being out for 3 straight playoff runs (he was a decoy in SB 46) and then another in 2016.
Like I said, if blocking counted, Gronkowski would be above everyone else by a lot. But it doesn't, and the fact that he missed large stretches of his career works against him.
O.Z.O.
Jiminy Fucking Christmas...
replace "Chiefs" with "Patriots" over most of the first two decades of this century and look to what the ultimate end result was most of those years.
Mazz22
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The Chiefs are not the patriots. The Patriots were never 32 in points scored in the second half. Andy Reid is still going to Andy Reid. Plus the loss of Eric B has been huge. Everyone is so focused on the crappy wide receivers that they really haven’t looked at the horrible playcalling.
Kelce is arguably the best oversized WR that lines up in the TE's position. I'll take prime Gronk any day for the actual TE.
heard a former player on some national sports how (was in the car, not sure which player/show) and he said where Bienemy was big was in practice when he was on players hard for things like drops and mistakes. it's been said the Bienemy is tough on players in Washington and perhaps that toughness is what the dropsie KC WR's are missing.... and that's fine by me, Chefs can suck it. I hope they lose. losing good Coordinators is something good teams have to deal with and Pats lost a lot over the years.
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Jiminy Fucking Christmas...
you're missing the entire point of this post-
The Chiefs are going to win the AFC because they'll find a way. It's perfectly fine to let go of that rivalry.
That being said, who in the AFC is it that you think can beat them? Don't say the Ravens, they're capable of some really underwhelming offensive performances against good defenses. Jags and the Texans aren't ready. The Bills are already done and I'll believe the Dolphins when I see it. MAYBE Denver...
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I think any of the AFC playoff teams will have a chance because the Chiefs offense is so anemic this year. I think Houston could be a dark horse. I like the way the Jags match up vs them as well.