What do you hope for from Trump Administration?

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Have you read any of the articles I've posted about that? It appears that other than not supporting gay marriage (BOO) he thinks gay people should be just like any other, no prejudice for or against them in the workplace, and was glad to get their support at one of his rallies.
I didn't vote for him but I think that other than the gay marriage right (which is not getting overturned) he won't be trying to harm people with laws due to their sexuality. At least I hope so.

There are reports of him appointing gay people to key posts. Fwiw wait and see.
 

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I saw on the news last night that Trump is considering appointing Richard Grenell to be the ambassador to the UN and Ronna Romney McDaniel to chair the RNC. Grenell would be the first openly gay person ever to fill a cabinet-level foreign policy position. He doesn't seem to have a problem with gays from what I've seen.
 

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If you have the time, do you mind going into this in more detail? I am not familiar with this issue and am interested in how you see Trump going about changing Congress' balance of power.


Congress needs to stop its blatant dereliction of duty, and perform according to its Constitutional mandate.

Apathy in regard to enforcing laws is not an option--it is their obligation.
 

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Have you read any of the articles I've posted about that? It appears that other than not supporting gay marriage (BOO) he thinks gay people should be just like any other, no prejudice for or against them in the workplace, and was glad to get their support at one of his rallies.
I didn't vote for him but I think that other than the gay marriage right (which is not getting overturned) he won't be trying to harm people with laws due to their sexuality. At least I hope so.


bid, one of the things I think most on the left are overreacting about is the idea that the SCOTUS is going to suddenly turn right. Replacing Scalia with a hard right justice leaves the court exactly where it's been for the last several years. Unless RBG passes not much is changing on that front.


I agree that it's highly unlikely that the SCOTUS would reverse the decision. The SCOTUS very rarely reverses itself and it would require a new case which presented new facts that put into doubt the previous precedent. I'm not too worried about that. I'm certainly hoping that ship has finally sailed and the religious fanatics will move on (fat chance of that).

But when you have openly hostile people in positions to create policy, there's still damage that can be done. Trump is just too unpredictable to put anything into what he has said in the past. We've got Pence, Carson and Blackwell to name three. The one gay man, Peter Thiel, has stated that he's not interested in social issues and will appear to take an indifference attitude.

We'll see......
 

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There are reports of him appointing gay people to key posts. Fwiw wait and see.

I saw on the news last night that Trump is considering appointing Richard Grenell to be the ambassador to the UN and Ronna Romney McDaniel to chair the RNC. Grenell would be the first openly gay person ever to fill a cabinet-level foreign policy position. He doesn't seem to have a problem with gays from what I've seen.

If that is true, I will be more encouraged.
 

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I agree that it's highly unlikely that the SCOTUS would reverse the decision. The SCOTUS very rarely reverses itself and it would require a new case which presented new facts that put into doubt the previous precedent. I'm not too worried about that. I'm certainly hoping that ship has finally sailed and the religious fanatics will move on (fat chance of that).

But when you have openly hostile people in positions to create policy, there's still damage that can be done. Trump is just too unpredictable to put anything into what he has said in the past. We've got Pence, Carson and Blackwell to name three. The one gay man, Peter Thiel, has stated that he's not interested in social issues and will appear to take an indifference attitude.

We'll see......
I have refrained from posting in here, but I do want to say something.

I strongly believe that Trump will be POTUS in name only. Pence was forced down his throat by the conservative right, telling Trump that if he wants to win this election he needed to attract a certain demographic. It is clear to me that Pence will be the most dangerous VP in our history, even more so than Cheney was. He has been tasked with installing the transition team and others, and his choices reflect HIS beliefs, without concern for anyone else.

He has positioned evangelical Christians who eschew equal rights for gays and women, and that will continue. Trump has rewarded his Breitbart buddy with the position of Chief Strategist and Advisor, a man who is well documented as a white nationalist and who has publicly stated that women should be pro-babies, stay at home and take care of the family, and that we need to get rid of the, and I quote, dykes in this country.

Trump has already let us know that he will spend most of his time in NY rather than Washington. I'm quite certain that he didn't realize this was a 24/7 job that he applied for. It was a game, one that he won. Now he'll be done playing. He'll serve as chairman of the board and let Pence be his CEO and COO.

While dissembling the law by the SJC might be difficult, establishing law is a lot easier. We've seen Pence establish law in Indiana in the ridiculous name of "religious freedom", which every American already has so no need for the law. Of course, it's not just a law; it's a license to discriminate. He will do the same for the country.

By electing Donald Trump, we've elected Mike Pence. We've elected to pull the white sheets off and let Jesus in.

Sorry, but America has taken a turn for the much worse, and it hasn't even begun.
 

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I imagine Chelsea did have some security clearance, which would allow her to freely enter the West Wing unescorted. I believe that's status quo for any family member of the president.

A clearance to roam the West Wing is by no means the same as having Top Secret access to documents.
 

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Glad to hear it

They've been frequently sourced here in the last week.

Breitbart is like the National Enquirer, every 20th story is true and some of those are even relevant. Info Wars is like the one that always had pictures of clouds shaped like Satan on the front cover.
 

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There are reports of him appointing gay people to key posts. Fwiw wait and see.

Hopefully it's not just Peter Thiel, who probably couldn't give two ****s about gay rights because he's too rich to have it be a burden on himself.

In the interest of disclosure, I do not at all like Peter Thiel.
 
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Breitbart is little more than a far right, pro-Israel, Zionist publication, a version of the National Review that combines classic conservatism and zionism.

..but, calling them a tabloid is neither true nor honest. Their stories are factual, with a hard right Zionist spin.
 

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Hopefully it's not just Peter Thiel, who probably couldn't give two ****s about gay rights because he's too rich to have it be a burden on himself.

In the interest of disclosure, I do not at all like Peter Thiel.

I see. What is it, he's not gay enough? Or rich and gay isn't a valid qualification? If any minority or female appointee is proposed it's going to not be acceptable because Trump?
And FWIW hes not the guy reported as a candidate.
 

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I see. What is it, he's not gay enough? Or rich and gay isn't a valid qualification? If any minority or female appointee is proposed it's going to not be acceptable because Trump?
And FWIW hes not the guy reported as a candidate.

He destroyed Gawker (which as far as I'm concerned would be reason to throw him a parade)
 

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I see. What is it, he's not gay enough? Or rich and gay isn't a valid qualification? If any minority or female appointee is proposed it's going to not be acceptable because Trump?
And FWIW hes not the guy reported as a candidate.

Please stop with this sort of nonsense. If I have reason to dislike Peter Thiel, I think it's unfair of you to assume it's because "he's not gay enough.."

Have I ever given you reason to believe I am that much of an idiot?
 

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I see. What is it, he's not gay enough? Or rich and gay isn't a valid qualification? If any minority or female appointee is proposed it's going to not be acceptable because Trump?
And FWIW hes not the guy reported as a candidate.

It appears some are going to just dunk behind the Trump banner to hate without even giving him a chance. Geesh, he and his people are not even in office yet. SMH.
 

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It appears some are going to just dunk behind the Trump banner to hate without even giving him a chance. Geesh, he and his people are not even in office yet. SMH.

Not his people. Pence's people.

And I'm one of those of whom you speak. Give him a chance to do what? Because if it's what he's said he's going to do, no thanks.
 

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It appears some are going to just dunk behind the Trump banner to hate without even giving him a chance. Geesh, he and his people are not even in office yet. SMH.

No, we're going by who he has appointed to his transition team which includes 4 of the most openly homophobic people in today's politics. Sorry if you can't see that this makes some people very concerned.
 

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Not his people. Pence's people.

And I'm one of those of whom you speak. Give him a chance to do what? Because if it's what he's said he's going to do, no thanks.

Ok, but the question still remains, what will you do? Just talk hate at every turn and a blind eye to even the good that may come as a result of his presidency?
 
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