What pisses me off.

Aloyuis - one more Philly.com as I am curious how much they credit pats D vs ‘rust’

Keep the requests coming. If I can grab them I will. :beer:

‘Too sloppy’: The Eagles offense regroups after a frustrating day in the win at New England​

After his first game as the Eagles' play-caller, offensive coordinator Brian Johnson knows that there's corrections to be made and lessons to be learned after an ugly 25-20 win against the Patriots.​

EJ SmithSep. 12, 2023, 7:24 p.m. ET
Eagles offensive coordinator Brian Johnson (second right) during a timeout against the New England Patriots at Gillette Stadium in Foxborough, MA on Sunday, Sept. 10, 2023

Eagles offensive coordinator Brian Johnson (second right) during a timeout against the New England Patriots at Gillette Stadium in Foxborough, MA on Sunday, Sept. 10, 2023Yong Kim / Staff Photographer
Rewatching the Eagles’ season opener, Brian Johnson’s frustration set in right around the time it did for everyone else.

The Eagles’ new offensive coordinator and play-caller said the offense’s performance in the 25-20 win over the New England Patriots at Gillette Stadium on Sunday was “sloppy,” pointing to the stagnant stretch in which the group went three-and-out on four consecutive series.

Johnson, who took over play-calling duties after replacing Shane Steichen over the offseason, said the offense’s failure to stretch a 16-point lead was the thing that stood out most when reviewing the tape.

“It was too sloppy,” Johnson said. “For me, the thing that was really most frustrating is we had an opportunity up 16-0 with the ball in the minus territory, three possessions in a row, and we couldn’t get much going. Obviously, we’ve just got to continue to clean up those corrections, make those corrections, and put ourselves in a position to go out there and have some success.”

Eagles offensive coordinator Brian Johnson talks to the media on Tuesday, Sept. 12, 2023, during a press conference at the NovaCare Complex in Philadelphia, Pa.

Eagles offensive coordinator Brian Johnson talks to the media on Tuesday, Sept. 12, 2023, during a press conference at the NovaCare Complex in Philadelphia, Pa.Jose F. Moreno / Staff Photographer
The Eagles got out to the early lead mostly thanks to opportunistic plays on defense. Following a pick-six from Darius Slay, a forced fumble from Jordan Davis gave them a short field for their only touchdown drive of the day.

From there, the offense managed just 21 yards on 13 plays the rest of the first half, including a few notably conservative run calls on third-and-longs and to run the clock out with 25 seconds left in the half from the Patriots’ 25-yard line.

The team managed just one explosive play as a result of the Patriots’ deep secondary structure. The heavy rain during the start of the game may have also contributed to the lack of shots, and the offensive line struggled to protect Jalen Hurts, who was pressured 16 times.

“I think one of the things that they did a great job of,” Johnson said, “was eliminating us from being able to make explosive plays down the field and really staying back in their coverage and making it sort of a dink-and-dunk type of operation where you’re just trying to keep the ball in play and keep it moving forward, and there wasn’t much opportunity to really get behind the defense just with the depth that they were playing.”

» READ MORE: The Eagles are 1-0, but have some reason for concern after the offense struggled vs. the Patriots

The Eagles faced third down with eight or more yards to gain on seven of their 14 conversion attempts and Johnson dialed up running plays on three occasions. The first one was successful, the second was not, and the third one from 20 yards to gain eked into field-goal range while coming up well short of the marker.

When asked about the potentially conservative approach of running the ball instead of giving Hurts and the team’s trio of elite receiving targets a chance to convert, Johnson said those types of draws have worked for the team in past seasons and pointed to Hurts’ 22-yard touchdown scamper on third-and-8 against the Chicago Bears last year.

“You can catch guys sometimes in some unique fronts and be able to pop a run,” Johnson said. “Dealing with some of the weather that we were dealing with, as well, certainly played a factor.”

Eagles coach Nick Sirianni also pushed back on the notion that a third-and-long run was a “conservative” approach after the game.

“That’s not necessarily true,” he said. “A run call could be aggressive. It doesn’t have to be a pass to be aggressive and so I actually think calling a run play in a third-and-8 situation is aggressive. ... It’s unique but I thought we were aggressive with that style of play that we ran in that scenario. So I respectfully disagree with not being aggressive. We just thought it was the right call for that scenario.”

The Eagles did eventually string together some positive plays in the second half. Johnson said he and Hurts went through some possible adjustments throughout the game and eventually found success hitting A.J. Brown on deep in-breaking routes against the Patriots, who used a lot of man-to-man on the outside with zone concepts in the middle of the field.

While Brown and DeVonta Smith got 10 targets apiece, Dallas Goedert was hardly featured in the passing offense. The tight end got just one target, an overthrow near the sideline. The Eagles also featured Kenneth Gainwell quite heavily out of the backfield — he suffered a rib injury in the game — at the expense of D’Andre Swift and Boston Scott.

» READ MORE: Kenneth Gainwell emerges as Eagles go with three halfbacks in the opener

Johnson said finding a better balance between the receiving and running options is among the things the group wants to “clean up,” but there’s a premium on time with the home opener against the Minnesota Vikings fast approaching on Thursday night. Setting the frustration from Sunday aside, Johnson said the end result of Sunday’s game makes cramming the corrections a little easier.

“There are so many lessons that you can take from a game like we had,” Johnson said. “Obviously, those lessons are much easier to learn after a win. We’ll definitely take that and keep moving forward and continue to get better.”
 
It’s week one. So many teams were sloppy because they really don’t play their starters in the preseason. I believe the head coach of the eagle said this. That he needs to start playing his starters more.

I don’t think we’re really going to know very much about any team until the end of September early October. I do think we will find out more about our secondary versus Miami just because their skill guys are so good and Tua appears to be playing very well. I also expect our pass rush to get home a lot more versus Miami than it did versus Philly. Their Oline is not very good.
 
What pisses me off? The fact that I pay for CBS, Fox, ESPN, NFL Network, NFL ticket and I STILL can’t watch all the games because they put some on Amazon Prime. How many friggin things do I need to pay for just to watch football?
 
What pisses me off? The fact that I pay for CBS, Fox, ESPN, NFL Network, NFL ticket and I STILL can’t watch all the games because they put some on Amazon Prime. How many friggin things do I need to pay for just to watch football?
I pay for Amazon prime because as a family of five we can still justify the ridiculous cost (over $170 a year). I pay for YouTube TV ($72 a month) and I think I pay for HBO Max (somebody slid that one past me) but that's it.

I'm seriously considering Sunday ticket right now, but I have yet to pull the trigger. In the past, I've been able to find a stream (although not all of them in English) in order to watch every Patriots game. I have a little anxiety every Sunday not knowing if I will get the Pats game.

Is Sunday Ticket worth it? Sometimes I am too frugal for my own good (wife says this ALL THE TIME).
 
Keep the requests coming. If I can grab them I will. :beer:

‘Too sloppy’: The Eagles offense regroups after a frustrating day in the win at New England​

After his first game as the Eagles' play-caller, offensive coordinator Brian Johnson knows that there's corrections to be made and lessons to be learned after an ugly 25-20 win against the Patriots.​

EJ SmithSep. 12, 2023, 7:24 p.m. ET
Eagles offensive coordinator Brian Johnson (second right) during a timeout against the New England Patriots at Gillette Stadium in Foxborough, MA on Sunday, Sept. 10, 2023

Eagles offensive coordinator Brian Johnson (second right) during a timeout against the New England Patriots at Gillette Stadium in Foxborough, MA on Sunday, Sept. 10, 2023Yong Kim / Staff Photographer
Rewatching the Eagles’ season opener, Brian Johnson’s frustration set in right around the time it did for everyone else.

The Eagles’ new offensive coordinator and play-caller said the offense’s performance in the 25-20 win over the New England Patriots at Gillette Stadium on Sunday was “sloppy,” pointing to the stagnant stretch in which the group went three-and-out on four consecutive series.

Johnson, who took over play-calling duties after replacing Shane Steichen over the offseason, said the offense’s failure to stretch a 16-point lead was the thing that stood out most when reviewing the tape.

“It was too sloppy,” Johnson said. “For me, the thing that was really most frustrating is we had an opportunity up 16-0 with the ball in the minus territory, three possessions in a row, and we couldn’t get much going. Obviously, we’ve just got to continue to clean up those corrections, make those corrections, and put ourselves in a position to go out there and have some success.”

Eagles offensive coordinator Brian Johnson talks to the media on Tuesday, Sept. 12, 2023, during a press conference at the NovaCare Complex in Philadelphia, Pa.

Eagles offensive coordinator Brian Johnson talks to the media on Tuesday, Sept. 12, 2023, during a press conference at the NovaCare Complex in Philadelphia, Pa.Jose F. Moreno / Staff Photographer
The Eagles got out to the early lead mostly thanks to opportunistic plays on defense. Following a pick-six from Darius Slay, a forced fumble from Jordan Davis gave them a short field for their only touchdown drive of the day.

From there, the offense managed just 21 yards on 13 plays the rest of the first half, including a few notably conservative run calls on third-and-longs and to run the clock out with 25 seconds left in the half from the Patriots’ 25-yard line.

The team managed just one explosive play as a result of the Patriots’ deep secondary structure. The heavy rain during the start of the game may have also contributed to the lack of shots, and the offensive line struggled to protect Jalen Hurts, who was pressured 16 times.

“I think one of the things that they did a great job of,” Johnson said, “was eliminating us from being able to make explosive plays down the field and really staying back in their coverage and making it sort of a dink-and-dunk type of operation where you’re just trying to keep the ball in play and keep it moving forward, and there wasn’t much opportunity to really get behind the defense just with the depth that they were playing.”

» READ MORE: The Eagles are 1-0, but have some reason for concern after the offense struggled vs. the Patriots

The Eagles faced third down with eight or more yards to gain on seven of their 14 conversion attempts and Johnson dialed up running plays on three occasions. The first one was successful, the second was not, and the third one from 20 yards to gain eked into field-goal range while coming up well short of the marker.

When asked about the potentially conservative approach of running the ball instead of giving Hurts and the team’s trio of elite receiving targets a chance to convert, Johnson said those types of draws have worked for the team in past seasons and pointed to Hurts’ 22-yard touchdown scamper on third-and-8 against the Chicago Bears last year.

“You can catch guys sometimes in some unique fronts and be able to pop a run,” Johnson said. “Dealing with some of the weather that we were dealing with, as well, certainly played a factor.”

Eagles coach Nick Sirianni also pushed back on the notion that a third-and-long run was a “conservative” approach after the game.

“That’s not necessarily true,” he said. “A run call could be aggressive. It doesn’t have to be a pass to be aggressive and so I actually think calling a run play in a third-and-8 situation is aggressive. ... It’s unique but I thought we were aggressive with that style of play that we ran in that scenario. So I respectfully disagree with not being aggressive. We just thought it was the right call for that scenario.”

The Eagles did eventually string together some positive plays in the second half. Johnson said he and Hurts went through some possible adjustments throughout the game and eventually found success hitting A.J. Brown on deep in-breaking routes against the Patriots, who used a lot of man-to-man on the outside with zone concepts in the middle of the field.

While Brown and DeVonta Smith got 10 targets apiece, Dallas Goedert was hardly featured in the passing offense. The tight end got just one target, an overthrow near the sideline. The Eagles also featured Kenneth Gainwell quite heavily out of the backfield — he suffered a rib injury in the game — at the expense of D’Andre Swift and Boston Scott.

» READ MORE: Kenneth Gainwell emerges as Eagles go with three halfbacks in the opener

Johnson said finding a better balance between the receiving and running options is among the things the group wants to “clean up,” but there’s a premium on time with the home opener against the Minnesota Vikings fast approaching on Thursday night. Setting the frustration from Sunday aside, Johnson said the end result of Sunday’s game makes cramming the corrections a little easier.

“There are so many lessons that you can take from a game like we had,” Johnson said. “Obviously, those lessons are much easier to learn after a win. We’ll definitely take that and keep moving forward and continue to get better.”
very good photo of Johnson
 
I pay for Amazon prime because as a family of five we can still justify the ridiculous cost (over $170 a year). I pay for YouTube TV ($72 a month) and I think I pay for HBO Max (somebody slid that one past me) but that's it.

I'm seriously considering Sunday ticket right now, but I have yet to pull the trigger. In the past, I've been able to find a stream (although not all of them in English) in order to watch every Patriots game. I have a little anxiety every Sunday not knowing if I will get the Pats game.

Is Sunday Ticket worth it? Sometimes I am too frugal for my own good (wife says this ALL THE TIME).
For us, the ticket is worth it. Without it, we would need to go out to see the majority of Jet’s games, which would be more expensive than the ticket. Plus, I’m the commissioner of our FFL and most of the league is usually at our house on Sundays.
 
I pay for Amazon prime because as a family of five we can still justify the ridiculous cost (over $170 a year). I pay for YouTube TV ($72 a month) and I think I pay for HBO Max (somebody slid that one past me) but that's it.

I'm seriously considering Sunday ticket right now, but I have yet to pull the trigger. In the past, I've been able to find a stream (although not all of them in English) in order to watch every Patriots game. I have a little anxiety every Sunday not knowing if I will get the Pats game.

Is Sunday Ticket worth it? Sometimes I am too frugal for my own good (wife says this ALL THE TIME).
I just got the ticket and love it. You don't have to subscribe to YouTubeTV to get it. They sell it as a stand alone service. Because I live in NE, I was also able to pay for it $99/month instead of $399 up front.
 
Even 4-2 in the division isn't going to be good enough, not this year. I think the Patriots should get the next two, just on their defense alone, but then you've got the Cowboys in Dallas, Bills, @Miami, KC is right after the bye - a 1-3 start isn't going to cut it this time. Not with this schedule.
It's a zero sum game. If you go 4-2 it means someone went 2-4 in the division and you likely split with the other 2 teams. We go 4-2 in the division it'll come down to non-divison games, especially conference games.
 
It's week one.

The Pats have yet to beat Tua.

This is going to change. We will know more in a few weeks. The Chiefs just signed Jones to a one year deal so they have him back. That is a tremendous boost for their defense.

Don't sleep on GB.
This team has never lost to Miami. About half the players who lost to Miami are on other teams...including Miami. Isaiah Wynne alone significantly determined the winner of the last few NEP-MIA games.

Go Pats, and you Ex-Pats do that voo doo that you did do!!!
 
I just got the ticket and love it. You don't have to subscribe to YouTubeTV to get it. They sell it as a stand alone service. Because I live in NE, I was also able to pay for it $99/month instead of $399 up front.
What does living in NE have to do with the payment arrangements? I don't understand.

I would have considered getting it, but changed my mind when I read that it offers all the games except for the ones being broadcasted in your local market. Fat lot of good that would do me for Patriots games.

It is also a lot cheaper to pay $6/month for Paramount+ to just watch CBS live.
 
What does living in NE have to do with the payment arrangements? I don't understand.

I would have considered getting it, but changed my mind when I read that it offers all the games except for the ones being broadcasted in your local market. Fat lot of good that would do me for Patriots games.

It is also a lot cheaper to pay $6/month for Paramount+ to just watch CBS live.
Me either lol. I use Fubu just because you can pick whomever you want to watch…. but I also use my NH address so I get multiple choices.

~Dee~
 
I think at the end if the day we can all agree this team had the tools to compete and give themselves a chance at the post season. No one had expectations in 01 that they would become a Super Bowl champion, and if we are honest, looking back they weren't for much of the season, they built it piece by piece win by win. Now I'm not saying that's what's going to happen here, but if they are going to take steps to even put themselves on the path of becoming that type of team, it has to start with taking the next steps, no more moral victories, put the wins on the board.
 
I think at the end if the day we can all agree this team had the tools to compete and give themselves a chance at the post season. No one had expectations in 01 that they would become a Super Bowl champion, and if we are honest, looking back they weren't for much of the season, they built it piece by piece win by win. Now I'm not saying that's what's going to happen here, but if they are going to take steps to even put themselves on the path of becoming that type of team, it has to start with taking the next steps, no more moral victories, put the wins on the board.
Zero losses? I mean, that team was 0-2, 1-3, 5-5 before going 11-5. They lost several games that were very winnable.
 
What does living in NE have to do with the payment arrangements? I don't understand.

I would have considered getting it, but changed my mind when I read that it offers all the games except for the ones being broadcasted in your local market. Fat lot of good that would do me for Patriots games.

It is also a lot cheaper to pay $6/month for Paramount+ to just watch CBS live.
They told me 7 states have in agreement to have the $399 broken up into 4 payments of $99 over 4 months. I just know MA is one of them.

It is true, you don't get the local broadcasts but I find it to be great because I can watch all the games on the ticket on a split screen showing up to 4 games at once and then toggle back to the Pats or the other games being showed locally.

Once I found out that I didn't have to subscribe to YouTubeTV but could get the ticket as a stand alone service, it was a no brainer for me.
 
What does living in NE have to do with the payment arrangements? I don't understand.

I would have considered getting it, but changed my mind when I read that it offers all the games except for the ones being broadcasted in your local market. Fat lot of good that would do me for Patriots games.

It is also a lot cheaper to pay $6/month for Paramount+ to just watch CBS live.
Nothing they offer that deal to anyone. It's a good option. To watch out of market games. I thinking of doing much cheaper NFL+ Premium . So I can rewatch Patriots games.
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What does living in NE have to do with the payment arrangements? I don't understand.

I would have considered getting it, but changed my mind when I read that it offers all the games except for the ones being broadcasted in your local market. Fat lot of good that would do me for Patriots games.

It is also a lot cheaper to pay $6/month for Paramount+ to just watch CBS live.
Might there be a post, that I am not privy to, to which you are responding?

Or maybe there is something else I am missing?
 
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