Re: Re: Giants Don't Know How to Win With Class
I'm leaving this, but note I didn't see other replies on previous pages...
SteelerFan87 on 02-04-2008 at 03:28 PM said:
Oh this is just priceless! ROFL
So, it's ok for the Pats to say shit when they win, like "cancel your reservations!", and "Guarantee! Guarantee!", or dancing on other teams' symbols, but when the shoe is on the other foot, you cry about class?
The first post is a little silly, but nothing compared to this.
You don't see a difference? Really? Look carefully, and there are big clues right in your examples:
1) "cancel your reservations!" Now, does that sound like it makes sense on its own or is it in response to something else. Oh, yeah, it was in response to dismissive pre-game smack from a team that couldn't back up it's smack.
2) "guarantee!" Again, a little nonsensical in a vaccuum, but in response...d@mn, why doesn't my autotext wotk in IE?!?!
3) the dance...was a parody of a dance done by the opposing team. Again, in response to (a little different here) in-game ... (to autotext.)
Now, take the examples from post one. Any of them referencing pre- or in- game smack from the Pats? Anyone reference the Patriots disrespecting the G-Men in any way?
No?
Then in all seriousness, go **** yourself. And I've joked around about that, but I mean that sincerely.
I like your posts, and this is way beneath you. Why are you in here gloating when your over-talented team barely limped into the playoffs for a fat early exit? And if you're going to gloat, or give class-lessons, at least try to make some sense...and not in a thread where EVERYONE EXCEPT THE INITIAL POSTER has taken the initial poster to task.
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As for my thoughts on the subject:
There are 3 types of "respectable" smack talk:
1) In-game, heat of battle smack talk - only when you back it up. See Michael Jordan.
2) Pre-game, out on a limb smack talk - only when you back it up. See Joe Nameth.
3) Post-game, making a mockery of failed attempts at 1 or 2 - when you've already backed it up.
Personally, I'm a fan of #1, I accept #3 as blowing off steam, and think #2 is an unnecessary psychological risk that can start to snowball if things don't go well.
the flip side of those - garbage smack:
1) In-game when you're talking to make up for the fact that you're toast;
2) Pre-game when you can't back it up, especially if you call out specific players or units, calling a team you haven't faced "soft" or the like. Stupid in terms of psychological advantage, and an unnecessary risk. Counterintuitively, often very easy to tell the difference between this and #2 above;
3) Post-game, any, if the opponent has been respectful of you overall. There is no reason to call out individuals, units, teams, whatever. You won, enjoy it, hoot and holler, say you're the better team, the best team ever, whatever you like. But calling out specific players and such is :thumbsdown:
So I have no problem with the "didn't bow down" stuff, or even the "f those fs" stuff - that's more insight as to how the psychology game was played. Calling out Seymour, etc. as "soft" is a little on the yucky side, but who really cares?
One thing to think about: this is, what, the third player now to specifically call our Big Dick Seymour for being dirty. Now, even if we assume that everyone is dirty under a pile, he's being specifically called out for it by multiple players.
Does that alarm anyone else?
