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Not sure how everyone feels about this statistic, but if you look at each division and combine net points, here is a breakdown:

AFCE - plus 54
AFCN - minus 88
AFCS - minus 110 (all four teams have allowed more than they've scored)
AFCW - plus 112
NFCE - plus 109
NFCN - minus 4
NFCS - minus 25
NFCW - minus 48

It would appear that the NFL really only has four decent divisions (AFCE, AFCW, NFCE and NFCN) based on this statistic.
 
patfan64 said:
Combined the league is at a plus 10.
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Unpossible.

There must be an error in your numbers somewhere.

I just did a copy-and-paste of the numbers from cbssports.com, and got total points scored (and allowed) as 5475.
 
TipRoast said:
Unpossible.

There must be an error in your numbers somewhere.

I just did a copy-and-paste of the numbers from cbssports.com, and got total points scored (and allowed) as 5475.
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I just added all the plusses and subtracted all the minusses.

Not sure what your number means.
 
patfan64 said:
I just added all the plusses and subtracted all the minusses.

Not sure what your number means.
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Total points scored across the league has to equal the total amount of points allowed.

I don't know how to explain it any more clearly than that.
 
patfan64 said:
Not sure how everyone feels about this statistic, but if you look at each division and combine net points, here is a breakdown:

AFCE - plus 54
AFCN - minus 88
AFCS - minus 110 (all four teams have allowed more than they've scored)
AFCW - plus 122
NFCE - plus 109
NFCN - minus 4
NFCS - minus 25
NFCW - minus 48

It would appear that the NFL really only has four decent divisions (AFCE, AFCW, NFCE and NFCN) based on this statistic.

Combined the league is at a plus 10. Might be another reason viewers are tuning out. But it would appear that Roger has his parity.
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uhhh...I know you're a math teacher and all, but shouldn't the plus/minus even out?

Of course, I also have to factor in the fact that I may have no idea what you're talking about.
 
I fixed it. The AFCW should be at 112 not 122. I tried doing it without a calculator.

Big mistake.

Now we are even in points scored versus points allowed.

I never said I was a good Math teacher.
 
patfan64 said:
I fixed it. The AFCW should be at 112 not 122. I tried doing it without a calculator.

Big mistake.

Now we are even in points scored versus points allowed.

I never said I was a good Math teacher.
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Also, AFCN is -86, not -88.

AFCS is -111, not -110.

NFCE is +108, not +109.



But I do like this thread - it's another way, besides wins and losses, to figure out which divisions are doing well.
 
AFCW and NFCE are both strong divisions overall.

And it's still misleading. The Bills are +40 but are obviously not a legit team.
 
I dunno, patfan64. Think you could use a bye-week right about now. :coffee:

:wink:

Cheers, BostonTim
 
patfan64 said:
Not sure how everyone feels about this statistic, but if you look at each division and combine net points, here is a breakdown:

AFCE - plus 54
AFCN - minus 88
AFCS - minus 110 (all four teams have allowed more than they've scored)
AFCW - plus 112
NFCE - plus 109
NFCN - minus 4
NFCS - minus 25
NFCW - minus 48

It would appear that the NFL really only has four decent divisions (AFCE, AFCW, NFCE and NFCN) based on this statistic.
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I'm not sure how you include the NFCN in the decent divisions when they've given up more points than they've scored, and the AFCE doesn't count as a decent division when it's one good team carrying 3 mediocre at best teams.

AFCW and NFCE are the only good divisions in the league. The rest are varying shades of terrible with the occasional good/great team sprinkled in.
 
Interesting idea for a statistic, but I'm not sure how much predictive power it gives at the halfway mark.

Who any given team has played so far will clearly play a role in the numbers.

Even then, what divisional matchups any given division has can color the results.

For example, who ever plays the AFCS could expect a slight boost to their numbers.

If you could tweak this to reflect the strength of the opponents, (something like DVOA), then it would be more interesting.
 
TipRoast said:
Also, AFCN is -86, not -88.

AFCS is -111, not -110.

NFCE is +108, not +109.



But I do like this thread - it's another way, besides wins and losses, to figure out which divisions are doing well.
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Not sure what numbers you are using. I used mine from NFL.com.

Based on that site AFCS is -110 and AFCN is -88 and NFCE is +109. I just used a calculator (cuz I'm back at my desk eating lunch.)

AFC is minus 32 and NFC is plus 32.
 
TheBSPolice said:
I'm not sure how you include the NFCN in the decent divisions when they've given up more points than they've scored, and the AFCE doesn't count as a decent division when it's one good team carrying 3 mediocre at best teams.

AFCW and NFCE are the only good divisions in the league. The rest are varying shades of terrible with the occasional good/great team sprinkled in.
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Do you ever have anything nice to say?

Just curious.
 
patfan64 said:
Not sure what numbers you are using. I used mine from NFL.com.

Based on that site AFCS is -110 and AFCN is -88 and NFCE is +109. I just used a calculator (cuz I'm back at my desk eating lunch.)

AFC is minus 32 and NFC is plus 32.
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I used cbssports.com. It looks to me as if their numbers are wrong (for Buffalo and Pittsburgh) - good catch.
 
TipRoast said:
I used cbssports.com. It looks to me as if their numbers are wrong (for Buffalo and Pittsburgh) - good catch.
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It certainly could have been NFL.com that was wrong. They have a history of errors over there.
 
patfan64 said:
Do you ever have anything nice to say?

Just curious.
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Well I was complimentary in this thread, referring to the Patriots as a good enough team to make 3 bad teams look good when just looking at the division as a whole.

I've also referred to Bill Belichick as a great coach, with no internal suffering even, despite Mazz being certain it killed me.

I was presenting what I considered nothing more or less than a factual correction to the interpretation of the NFCN and AFCE being called good divisions. I wasn't intending to be either nice or not nice.

I know you guys hate me here, but I really don't do anything worse than correct things that I think aren't accurate.
 
How was it that all of this <strike>clown's</strike> things's opinions came to be fact while all of mine remain stoopid as ever? :shrug:

Inquiring minds and all that.
 
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