NFP: Owners seek double-digit cut in player salaries

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Anyone with common sense who looks at this pending situation objectively undoubtedly sides with the Owners. Players are out of their minds and better smell the coffee (Read: Cave in to the owners demands), or else they are all going to get locked out with little sympathy from the fans.

This isn't the 1950's Teamsters- its the NFLPA!!!!!! Know your situation and who you are and be happy with what you have.
 
BaCsonkaDonk said:
From a practical standpoint, sure. But that has nothing to do with the principle of players being able to get paid what the market says they're worth.
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Sure it does when the total sum of money spent is limited. The NFL is not a free market in any way - which is probably one of the reasons why it remains fairly competitive.
 
BaCsonkaDonk said:
From a practical standpoint, sure. But that has nothing to do with the principle of players being able to get paid what the market says they're worth.
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I think one of the issues is that the draft system that represents a lot of leverage for the ownership over 2nd round picks and later, it actually a very large boost in leverage for the top 10 picks in the draft. I propose a system that allows teams to recoup a compensatory 1st round draft choice in the event they don't sign a round 1 pick
 
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I propose a system that allows teams to recoup a compensatory 1st round draft choice in the event they don't sign a round 1 pick
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I don't think that really changes much in the long run. Its very rare that even long holdouts don't eventually sign.
 
I was wrong about the owner's strike fund, they have another 4 billion coming in 2011 tv dollars, plus anything they can save from cutting players salaries during the uncapped year. Players a f-u-c-k fu*ked.

Union's lockout talk could affect 2010 contracts

Posted by Mike Florio on February 1, 2010 11:59 AM ET
The ability of guys like Julius Peppers to cash in come March could be affected by forces other than the final eight plan.With the union constantly banging the drum regarding a possible lockout in 2011, teams could choose not to hand out huge money in 2010.

Think about it for a second. Who has been talking about a lockout, the NFL or the NFLPA? The owners have expressed nothing publicly other than a desire to do a fair deal; the union has repeatedly proclaimed that a lockout is coming.

As a result, a league source tells us that some teams are beginning to prepare for the possibility of the inevitability of a lockout, in part by making free agency plans with the understanding that there might not be football in 2011.

Said the source, "The owners' thinking is that if players are being told to save their money for a lockout, then owners should save their money, too. This is already evident in coaches' contracts with some teams, where salary increases have been less than in previous years and where 'lockout' clauses provide owners with savings and an option to terminate the contracts. There have also been rumblings that a new round of layoffs is coming at the team and league levels. Next, owners will try to save money on player salaries."

The source predicts that a claim of owner collusion is "almost certain." The teams believe that such charges can be avoided based on evidence of reduced spending in all other areas of the business and the agreed-to removal of the salary floor in 2010.

Basically, then, the owners' lockout fund will bolstered not only by $4 billion in television money that will be paid regardless of whether there's football in 2011 but also by any money that can be pocketed given the evaporation of the spending minimums.
 
Wow almost 20%? Thats great. It is going to be awesome going to a game and playing a fifth less. Beers back down to 6 bucks maybe? Sweeet!

*cough*
 
Another factor against teams paying out huge contracts to marquee FAs in the coming year. Any such huge salaries will apply towards the cap when it is reinstituted.

This could actually result in players like Wilfork and Peppers wishing they had been tagged this year.

Post-salary cap, teams will proceed at their own peril

Posted by Mike Florio on February 1, 2010 11:00 PM ET
We've received several questions over the past few weeks regarding the operation of player contracts after the evaporation of the salary cap.

And the answer to all questions is simple -- once the cap goes away, any further rules relating to the operation of the salary cap will hinge upon the collective bargaining process.

As NFL spokesman Greg Aiello explains it, there will be no "transition rules" unless and until the league and the NFLPA agree to such measures via collective bargaining. Thus, any team that decides to sign players to big-money deals will be assuming that risk that, eventually, they'll have to scramble for cap space, if/when a cap is reapplied.

This reality could cause some teams to be even more cautious when it comes to spending money in 2010.

Meanwhile, existing contracts can be dumped by trading or cutting players with no cap consequences in 2010. Presumably, there would be no lingering ramifications in future years covered by the deals, subject again to the collective bargaining process.

So, basically, the removal of the salary cap will plunge the entire player payroll system into uncertainty, and there will be no clear answers until the league and the union reach an accord regarding the next compensation scheme.
 
Pity Florio and company couldn't smell the coffee on this until now, some of us were kicking these situations around a year ago when the Wilfork negotiations were stalled then. :harumph:
 
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