Progress on the CBA and 2006 Salary Cap
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Thanks, LPF, here is some more optimism.
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Jerry Jones: Deal with players 'likely'
11:24 AM CST on Monday, February 27, 2006
By TODD ARCHER / The Dallas Morning News
INDIANAPOLIS -- Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones said Monday that progress has been made between the league and NFL Players Association regarding a new collective bargaining agreement.
“I feel that we’ll likely have a deal,” Jones said.
When a deal would be finalized is in question because the league year is expected to begin Friday. Because of all the particulars of the CBA, the owners and the union could need more time to finalize an agreement.
Houston general manager Charley Casserly said Sunday it’s possible the league year could be pushed back a week or two.
NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabaue and NFLPA executive director Gene Upshaw are expected to meet Monday in Washington. The league’s management council will meet in New York on Wednesday and Thursday. The full ownership group is expected to meet Monday in Dallas.
“We have a pretty tight timeframe here with the [league] year,” Jones said.
If a deal is not reached, then 2007 will be an uncapped year and a potential lockout would loom following the 2008 season. Without a deal, the 2006 salary cap will be between $92 million and $95 million. With a deal, it could be between $102 million and $104 million.
The NFL's landscape also could change forever. Upshaw has said the union will move toward decertifying, which it believes would affect the league's antitrust exemption, making the salary cap gone for good.
In 2007, there would be no salary cap, which means teams could spend as much or as little as they want on players. Players would not become unrestricted free agents until their sixth season (it is now after their fourth), and they would have to pay for their own benefits.
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Jerry Jones: Deal with players 'likely'
11:24 AM CST on Monday, February 27, 2006
By TODD ARCHER / The Dallas Morning News
INDIANAPOLIS -- Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones said Monday that progress has been made between the league and NFL Players Association regarding a new collective bargaining agreement.
“I feel that we’ll likely have a deal,” Jones said.
When a deal would be finalized is in question because the league year is expected to begin Friday. Because of all the particulars of the CBA, the owners and the union could need more time to finalize an agreement.
Houston general manager Charley Casserly said Sunday it’s possible the league year could be pushed back a week or two.
NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabaue and NFLPA executive director Gene Upshaw are expected to meet Monday in Washington. The league’s management council will meet in New York on Wednesday and Thursday. The full ownership group is expected to meet Monday in Dallas.
“We have a pretty tight timeframe here with the [league] year,” Jones said.
If a deal is not reached, then 2007 will be an uncapped year and a potential lockout would loom following the 2008 season. Without a deal, the 2006 salary cap will be between $92 million and $95 million. With a deal, it could be between $102 million and $104 million.
The NFL's landscape also could change forever. Upshaw has said the union will move toward decertifying, which it believes would affect the league's antitrust exemption, making the salary cap gone for good.
In 2007, there would be no salary cap, which means teams could spend as much or as little as they want on players. Players would not become unrestricted free agents until their sixth season (it is now after their fourth), and they would have to pay for their own benefits.
PFT.com:
CBA IS "DONE," BUT . . . .
A league source tells us that a deal between the NFL and the NFL Players Association on an extension to the Collective Bargaining Agreement is "done," and that the only thing keeping the thing from being signed and sealed is the absence of a firm arrangement among owners regarding an expansion of revenue sharing.
The only remaining problem is that the new CBA replaces "Defined Gross Revenues" (i.e., the stuff that has been shared by the 32 teams for years) with "Total Football Revenues" (i.e., every penny earned). And if every penny earned, including stuff that isn't currently shared, goes into the formula for determining the salary cap, the problem is that the low-earning teams will see their individual cap numbers influenced by the much bigger money being raked in by other teams.
Stay tuned. It's looking more and more like it's only a matter of time before the owners work this thing out. As they should.
CBA IS "DONE," BUT . . . .
A league source tells us that a deal between the NFL and the NFL Players Association on an extension to the Collective Bargaining Agreement is "done," and that the only thing keeping the thing from being signed and sealed is the absence of a firm arrangement among owners regarding an expansion of revenue sharing.
The only remaining problem is that the new CBA replaces "Defined Gross Revenues" (i.e., the stuff that has been shared by the 32 teams for years) with "Total Football Revenues" (i.e., every penny earned). And if every penny earned, including stuff that isn't currently shared, goes into the formula for determining the salary cap, the problem is that the low-earning teams will see their individual cap numbers influenced by the much bigger money being raked in by other teams.
Stay tuned. It's looking more and more like it's only a matter of time before the owners work this thing out. As they should.
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Increase the funds use in the formula (whether they are shared or not) along with a probably drop in the percentage (to avoid an explosion on the cap) and it looks like a winner to me.
Slack-ass teams will better get off their butt if they want to compete and maintain profit margin. Players win because that activity should increase to total pool that they now get a share of.
Sounds like the "Gang of 9" is getting their way here.
Something tells me that Bob Kraft was the driving force here. Not sure what, but something.....
Slack-ass teams will better get off their butt if they want to compete and maintain profit margin. Players win because that activity should increase to total pool that they now get a share of.
Sounds like the "Gang of 9" is getting their way here.
Something tells me that Bob Kraft was the driving force here. Not sure what, but something.....
PatPatriot said:Something tells me that Bob Kraft was the driving force here. Not sure what, but something.....
It's the kool-aid!
Anyone else find it interesting that at the end of the day on (Friday) Feb 24th, Upshaw tells the players' agents to negotiate is if there will be no agreement, and first thing on Monday, Feb 27th, everyone is claiming it's a done deal.
Not everyone can be right - must have been a heck of a weekend...
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From Mike Reiss:
Kraft on FSNE
Patriots Vice Chairman and President Jonathan Kraft expressed optimism that the NFL will reach a new collective bargaining agreement with the players union. Kraft was speaking as a guest on the Fox Sports New England program with co-hosts Gary Tanguay and Greg Dickerson.
A portion of the transcript from the Fox Sports New England interview:
What’s the latest with the collective bargaining agreement?
“Negotiations are ongoing. Really, the league office, the commissioner [Paul Tagliabue], Harold Henderson -- who runs our labor negotiations -- and a couple of people who work with him are down in Washington today with the [players] union. I think negotiations will go on. The commissioner told the coaches and the GMs in [Indianapolis] over the weekend to expect to hear by Wednesday at 4, either we have a deal in principle or we don’t. Everyone, I think, on both sides feels like there is too much to lose. If I were betting, I would bet there would be a deal by Wednesday.”
Even if an agreement is reached with the players union, isn’t there another issue with the owners –- high revenue vs. low revenue?
“It’s really a two-step process. If we get a deal with the union, and if it’s a deal with a [salary] cap based on the percentage of revenues … the way we have done it, you take the revenues of the league -- both the shared and unshared revenues -- and a percentage of that pool becomes the [salary] cap. Then when we get into the room to ratify that agreement, there will be a discussion about incremental revenue sharing. That will probably be an interesting discussion.”
Kraft on FSNE
Patriots Vice Chairman and President Jonathan Kraft expressed optimism that the NFL will reach a new collective bargaining agreement with the players union. Kraft was speaking as a guest on the Fox Sports New England program with co-hosts Gary Tanguay and Greg Dickerson.
A portion of the transcript from the Fox Sports New England interview:
What’s the latest with the collective bargaining agreement?
“Negotiations are ongoing. Really, the league office, the commissioner [Paul Tagliabue], Harold Henderson -- who runs our labor negotiations -- and a couple of people who work with him are down in Washington today with the [players] union. I think negotiations will go on. The commissioner told the coaches and the GMs in [Indianapolis] over the weekend to expect to hear by Wednesday at 4, either we have a deal in principle or we don’t. Everyone, I think, on both sides feels like there is too much to lose. If I were betting, I would bet there would be a deal by Wednesday.”
Even if an agreement is reached with the players union, isn’t there another issue with the owners –- high revenue vs. low revenue?
“It’s really a two-step process. If we get a deal with the union, and if it’s a deal with a [salary] cap based on the percentage of revenues … the way we have done it, you take the revenues of the league -- both the shared and unshared revenues -- and a percentage of that pool becomes the [salary] cap. Then when we get into the room to ratify that agreement, there will be a discussion about incremental revenue sharing. That will probably be an interesting discussion.”
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Sounds like some very hopeful signs, indeed.
I made the mistake of reading Borges' columns in the Sunday Globe and was thorougly despressed with the bleak picture he painted.
It seemed pretty likely that no agreement might have meant that the Pats historic run could have been ended by guys wearing suits instead of football uniforms.
I got the impression that we were basically looking at the end of the NFL as we know it and now it looks like that might have been a little bit......uhhhh......premature?
Hopefully. This is a very big story about which relatively little has been written.
I made the mistake of reading Borges' columns in the Sunday Globe and was thorougly despressed with the bleak picture he painted.
It seemed pretty likely that no agreement might have meant that the Pats historic run could have been ended by guys wearing suits instead of football uniforms.
I got the impression that we were basically looking at the end of the NFL as we know it and now it looks like that might have been a little bit......uhhhh......premature?
Hopefully. This is a very big story about which relatively little has been written.
NFL labor talks fail; teams facing crisis
NEW YORK - NFL labor talks broke off Tuesday three days before the start of free agency, leaving teams and players in a quandary about negotiating new contracts.
Gene Upshaw, executive director of the NFL Players Association, spent the last three days meeting in New York and Washington with commissioner Paul Tagliabue.
?We?re deadlocked. There?s nowhere to go,? Upshaw said. ?There?s no reason to continue meeting.?
Although the contract does not expire until after the 2007 season, this is a critical period in the negotiations to extend the 12-year-old contract. Talks have been going on for more than a year.
Free agency is scheduled to start Friday. If the deal is not extended, this would be the last year with a salary cap, so agents and team officials want to know how to structure contracts.
For example, if there is no extension, the salary cap is expected to be about $95 million this season and annual raises after 2006 in a long-term deal would be limited to 30 percent. If the deal is extended the cap could be $10 million or more higher.
As owners fight each other, union prepares to decertify
The sides have agreed on a number of issues. The biggest one is changing the formula for the amount of money to go to the players from ?designated gross revenues? ? primarily television and ticket sales ? to ?total gross revenues,? which include almost every bit a money a a team generates.
However, they differ on the percentage of revenues to be allocated to the players ? the union is asking for 60 percent and the league?s current offer is 56.2 percent.
However, there are also disputes among groups of owners on that issue, too. Tagliabue has called a league meeting in New York for Thursday to try to resolve them.
Teams with lower revenues ? mostly small-market clubs ? say that if the contributions to the players? fund are equally apportioned among 32 franchises, they will have to pay a substantially larger proportion of their nontelevision and ticket money because they have less. Owners of high-revenue teams, like Dallas? Jerry Jones, claim spreading the load equally would force some teams to work harder to generate new sources of money.
Another high-revenue owner, New England?s Robert Kraft, says the formula does not take stadium debt into account, as he has on Gillette Stadium in Foxborough, Mass.
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NEW YORK - NFL labor talks broke off Tuesday three days before the start of free agency, leaving teams and players in a quandary about negotiating new contracts.
Gene Upshaw, executive director of the NFL Players Association, spent the last three days meeting in New York and Washington with commissioner Paul Tagliabue.
?We?re deadlocked. There?s nowhere to go,? Upshaw said. ?There?s no reason to continue meeting.?
Although the contract does not expire until after the 2007 season, this is a critical period in the negotiations to extend the 12-year-old contract. Talks have been going on for more than a year.
Free agency is scheduled to start Friday. If the deal is not extended, this would be the last year with a salary cap, so agents and team officials want to know how to structure contracts.
For example, if there is no extension, the salary cap is expected to be about $95 million this season and annual raises after 2006 in a long-term deal would be limited to 30 percent. If the deal is extended the cap could be $10 million or more higher.
As owners fight each other, union prepares to decertify
The sides have agreed on a number of issues. The biggest one is changing the formula for the amount of money to go to the players from ?designated gross revenues? ? primarily television and ticket sales ? to ?total gross revenues,? which include almost every bit a money a a team generates.
However, they differ on the percentage of revenues to be allocated to the players ? the union is asking for 60 percent and the league?s current offer is 56.2 percent.
However, there are also disputes among groups of owners on that issue, too. Tagliabue has called a league meeting in New York for Thursday to try to resolve them.
Teams with lower revenues ? mostly small-market clubs ? say that if the contributions to the players? fund are equally apportioned among 32 franchises, they will have to pay a substantially larger proportion of their nontelevision and ticket money because they have less. Owners of high-revenue teams, like Dallas? Jerry Jones, claim spreading the load equally would force some teams to work harder to generate new sources of money.
Another high-revenue owner, New England?s Robert Kraft, says the formula does not take stadium debt into account, as he has on Gillette Stadium in Foxborough, Mass.
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Hawg73 said:
Borges is always painting a bleak picture where anything Patriots is concerned.
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Kraft should know, it's his wallet that will be hurt the most along with about 7 other teams. This will be a done deal very soon.