The 2021 Patriots' Preseason Camp

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Hawg73 said:
The most interesting point I've read so far was Mike Reiss suggesting that when Mac reaches the end of his drop his ball tends to come out quicker than Cam's. A bit of
a paraphrase, but that was the basic point.

This is what you'd typically see at Alabama. Very decisive is how Jones consistently struck me and it wasn't like he made up his mind on bad reads. He can see the play
unfold and find the open man and that's the kind of guy I expect we will see before long. The question is when he'll figure it out up here and I'm planning on being
patient and cutting him plenty of slack while he adjusts to the NFL.

I could balance that off with a comment that Cam had more zip on the ball, but it's the first day of TC and I'm not worked up over anything. Just glad that there
is something finally going on in Foxboro.
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I really think this happens naturally to QB's who cannot run away from people and do not rely on athletic ability to get out os situations, so they figure out early on, read the defenses better, know your hot routes and get rid of the ball faster. To me I think this is what works the best. No matter how much you can move around, a good defense will get you. See superbowl. Its harder to defend a QB who can get rid of the ball fast and put it in the places it needs to go based on whatever you line up in.
 
Inspector_50 said:
I really think this happens naturally to QB's who cannot run away from people and do not rely on athletic ability to get out os situations, so they figure out early on, read the defenses better, know your hot routes and get rid of the ball faster. To me I think this is what works the best. No matter how much you can move around, a good defense will get you. See superbowl. Its harder to defend a QB who can get rid of the ball fast and put it in the places it needs to go based on whatever you line up in.
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I don't know how long you've followed the Patriots, but I used to get frustrated as hell watching the Pats try to sack or even pressure Dan Marino. Talk about getting rid of the ball fast.
 
spacecrime said:
I don't know how long you've followed the Patriots, but I used to get frustrated as hell watching the Pats try to sack or even pressure Dan Marino. Talk about getting rid of the ball fast.
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Yeah man, I'm old saw Marino play.
 
sg14 said:
The Patriots.com guys said Stidham has a physical issue that will not be resolved quickly. And the team decided that now was the best time to straighten it out.
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Shoulder surgery is possible from what I'm told.
 
Jeff gives a very detailed account of the QB competition which is tedious reading especially for the first day of camp when nothing will be decided.
I'll pass on pasting all that in favor of this summary from Jeff Howe

• This wasn’t a banner day for the passing attack as a whole. Regarding the receivers, Jakobi Meyers wasn’t targeted by Newton or Jones, while Harry had a couple late touchdowns to create some early momentum in the chase for the No. 4 spot on the depth chart. Gunner Olszewski was better than Isaiah Zuber, Kristian Wilkerson, Devin Ross, Marvin Hall and Tre Nixon in the race for the next job – which could also be the fourth spot on the depth chart if Harry doesn’t stick around.
• McMillan and Phillips had interceptions against Newton. Hightower and Bryant broke up Hoyer passes. Mills and Phillips broke up Newton passes. Michael Jackson and Godchaux broke up Jones passes.
• There were four drops in team drills. White dropped a Newton pass that was picked. Zuber dropped a Hoyer pass. LaCosse and Ross dropped Jones passes.
• Van Noy moved all across the defense.
• Matt Judon had an active practice.
• Josh Uche bulked up this offseason and should make a much greater impact in year two.
• With Asiasi (COVID-19) and Keene (PUP) out of action, it’s a frustrating start to camp for the 2020 third-round tight ends. Ditto for Jennings, the third-round linebacker who also had some injury issues as a rookie.
• The quarterbacks picked on Joejuan Williams quite a bit.

I was glad to read from Jeff and a few others that Jones effortlessly gets through his progressions quickly and throws with anticipation and either touch or velocity depending on the situation. The D is always ahead of the O early in training camp so the offensive miscues should be expected. The drops are killing me.

theathletic.com

The Cam Newton-Mac Jones QB competition has begun. Inside Day 1 of Patriots training camp

No one won or lost the job on the first day. Let’s see what happens when the QBs get an opportunity to utilize more of the field.
theathletic.com theathletic.com

As an aside, I'm told Stidham's issue is with his shoulder which may need surgery.
 
chevss454 said:
Jeff gives a very detailed account of the QB competition which is tedious reading especially for the first day of camp when nothing will be decided.
I'll pass on pasting all that in favor of this summary from Jeff Howe

• This wasn’t a banner day for the passing attack as a whole. Regarding the receivers, Jakobi Meyers wasn’t targeted by Newton or Jones, while Harry had a couple late touchdowns to create some early momentum in the chase for the No. 4 spot on the depth chart. Gunner Olszewski was better than Isaiah Zuber, Kristian Wilkerson, Devin Ross, Marvin Hall and Tre Nixon in the race for the next job – which could also be the fourth spot on the depth chart if Harry doesn’t stick around.
• McMillan and Phillips had interceptions against Newton. Hightower and Bryant broke up Hoyer passes. Mills and Phillips broke up Newton passes. Michael Jackson and Godchaux broke up Jones passes.
• There were four drops in team drills. White dropped a Newton pass that was picked. Zuber dropped a Hoyer pass. LaCosse and Ross dropped Jones passes.
• Van Noy moved all across the defense.
• Matt Judon had an active practice.
• Josh Uche bulked up this offseason and should make a much greater impact in year two.
• With Asiasi (COVID-19) and Keene (PUP) out of action, it’s a frustrating start to camp for the 2020 third-round tight ends. Ditto for Jennings, the third-round linebacker who also had some injury issues as a rookie.
• The quarterbacks picked on Joejuan Williams quite a bit.

I was glad to read from Jeff and a few others that Jones effortlessly gets through his progressions quickly and throws with anticipation and either touch or velocity depending on the situation. The D is always ahead of the O early in training camp so the offensive miscues should be expected. The drops are killing me.

theathletic.com

The Cam Newton-Mac Jones QB competition has begun. Inside Day 1 of Patriots training camp

No one won or lost the job on the first day. Let’s see what happens when the QBs get an opportunity to utilize more of the field.
theathletic.com theathletic.com

As an aside, I'm told Stidham's issue is with his shoulder which may need surgery.
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What a terrible report overall in terms of the QBs. Thank goodness it is only day one so plenty of time to improve.

What's up with Stidham? I assume it's his throwing shoulder? If something happens to Cam and Jones is not ready then we are stuck with Hoyer which is a nightmare scenario none of us wants. Unless of course Hoyer is cut due to the vax issue.
 
Mazz22 said:
What a terrible report overall in terms of the QBs. Thank goodness it is only day one so plenty of time to improve.

What's up with Stidham? I assume it's his throwing shoulder? If something happens to Cam and Jones is not ready then we are stuck with Hoyer which is a nightmare scenario none of us wants. Unless of course Hoyer is cut due to the vax issue.
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We signed a QB yesterday. Keep up, please.
 
chevss454 said:
We signed a QB yesterday. Keep up, please.
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I saw that. Jake somebody. That gives me so much hope. LOL

What's up with Stid? Did he hurt it in mini-camp?
 
One thing to keep in mind for this year's TC, our defense is a lot better this year than last year which may explain some of the offenses' early woes.
 
Mazz22 said:
One thing to keep in mind for this year's TC, our defense is a lot better this year than last year which may explain some of the offenses' early woes.
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Yeah but it sounds like the passes are just bad throws, not passes that were defensed. Our Pass defense was fine last year it was our run defense that took a hit.
 
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