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The case for moving forward with Belichick requires compromise.

“Bill is brilliant and provides a lot of value,” another exec said. “He needs help with player acquisition. The question is, will he accept it or fight it? He’s going to have to make sacrifices to get that all-time record for wins.”

We have detailed in the past how much institutional knowledge Belichick and the Patriots have lost. Ernie Adams, Nick Caserio, Dave Ziegler, Josh McDaniels, Dante Scarnecchia, Josh Boyer, Brian Flores, Chad O’Shea were with Belichick as coaches, evaluators and confidants for decades. All are gone.

“The idea that all Bill needs is help is pretty compelling,” a third exec said. “Bill always had a development system for coaches and personnel people, including people like Caserio, who coached wide receivers and then, next thing you know, he is director of player personnel. My question is, where is the next Caserio? Are we going to declare in 2023 that this is it, Bill needs help, and he can’t go to his farm and get the people he needs?”

Getting help for Belichick sounds great, but isn’t necessarily practical.

“Who would take a job in personnel there and think that they have real power?” a fourth exec said. “How do you get somebody? I’m wondering if that is why they ended up with Patricia and Judge a year ago, and Bill O’Brien now. Maybe nobody else wanted the jobs.”

Almost no one in the game knows football history better than Belichick does. Surely he watched the Raiders regress as their Hall of Fame visionary owner Al Davis clung to old ways, plunging that organization into mediocrity for decades. Belichick is not there, but he’s closer now than he’s ever been. He needs 30 regular-season wins to pass Don Shula for the all-time lead. At his post-Brady win rate, Belichick would need to coach the rest of this season, plus three more 17-game seasons, just to break the record early in the 2027 season, at age 75.

“If Bill wants to salvage this, he has to get in position to get one of those quarterbacks (in the 2024 draft),” the first exec said. “Otherwise, you are paying top of the market for Kirk Cousins, or going after (Gardner) Minshew or (Ryan) Tannehill or (Justin) Fields or Kyler Murray or Zach Wilson.

“To me, it is a Kraft discussion, not a Bill discussion. We know what Bill is with and without Tom Brady. It is more, where do they go next year, with Kraft being responsible for that.”


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from Jeff Howe, The Athletic

There’s a school of thought that suggests Bill Belichick has earned the right to go out on his own accord, that the architect of the greatest dynasty in NFL history can coach in New England as long as he chooses.

Kraft doesn’t subscribe to it.

As Belichick pursues Don Shula’s all-time wins record, Kraft’s priorities will be tested. For the better part of two decades, the Patriots found new ways to measure their historic levels of success through pages upon pages of record books. But over the past two weeks, Belichick suffered the biggest blowout defeat of his career against the Dallas Cowboys (38-3) and followed it up with the organization’s worst home shutout. This is the first time since Kraft bought the team they’ve lost two games by 30 points in the same season, and it happened within a span of seven days.

The entire operation needs to improve — and fast. The Patriots are 1-4 and returning to the scene of their most humiliating loss in 2022 to take on another Kraft favorite: Las Vegas Raiders coach Josh McDaniels, as well as an owner in Mark Davis who has become business partners with Tom Brady. This is going to be a gut-check type of week for Kraft.

Then the Patriots take on the Bills and Dolphins, two AFC East opponents that have had a one-sided advantage over the Patriots since 2020. After that stretch, seven of their final nine opponents have superior records.

Belichick is sitting at 330 career victories. For a while, Belichick had been on track to surpass Shula’s 347 wins in 2024, which would sync up with his 50th season in the NFL.

But if the Patriots don’t start beating comparable opponents, let alone the perceived superior foes, that 348th victory may not be within reach in 2024. And if this chase continues at the current pace, how much energy would the fan base realistically expend to celebrate No. 348 — whenever it may come?

Kraft likes to remind people he grew up as a Patriots fan during the organization’s darkest days. But that doesn’t mean he has patience to endure more of them. On multiple occasions in recent years, he has lamented the team’s lack of a postseason victory in the post-Brady era. Kraft has grown frustrated, if not downright angry, over this shortage of success, according to people close to the situation.

Kraft hired Belichick in 2000 because he was enamored with two primary attributes. First, Kraft gained a firsthand appreciation for Belichick’s brilliant defensive mind and leadership presence when he was on Bill Parcells’ Patriots staff in 1996. Second, Kraft loved Belichick’s savviness and organization with the salary cap as it related to roster construction. Belichick was an incredible forward thinker during a time when many teams were still struggling to navigate the relatively new cap system.

But Belichick has failed to evolve. One example: The Patriots haven’t invested in big-time wide receivers despite the league trending in that direction. That philosophy worked for a long time with Brady running the offense, but it’s an antiquated way of thinking in the current state of the league. Beyond that, the value moves haven’t panned out, with Jakobi Meyers’ instant success with the Raiders and JuJu Smith-Schuster’s struggles with the Patriots refocusing the spotlight on that free-agent exchange.

The Patriots, under Belichick’s watch, have also struggled to draft and develop talent. Punter Jake Bailey, a 2019 fifth-round pick, was the last in-house selection to get a multiyear contract extension, and he was cut seven months later. Four other players got similar extensions in the previous four seasons, all of them fourth- or fifth-round selections.

Safety Kyle Dugger and outside linebacker Josh Uche, each in the final year of their contracts, are certainly well-aware of the pattern. Meanwhile, contenders like the Kansas Chiefs, San Francisco 49ers and Philadelphia Eagles are consistently paying to keep their homegrown talent.

The offensive line has gotten progressively worse each season since famed offensive line coach Dante Scarnecchia retired following 2019. While injuries have been a persistent problem, the bottoming out of this line had been brewing for too long because of mismanaged assets in the draft and free agency.

New England has also gotten minimal production out of their tight ends in the post-Rob Gronkowski world, virtually ignoring the position in the draft during the 2010s before whiffing on a pair of third-rounders in 2020 and eventually signing Hunter Henry and Jonnu Smith to lucrative deals in 2021.
 
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And now they’ve got a quarterback conundrum. Maybe Mac Jones isn’t the guy. Maybe he’s got above-average potential. Based on the lack of stability around him, it’s hard to truly know for sure.

But look at the Eagles, who drafted Jalen Hurts in the second round in 2020, surrounded the quarterback with an incredible offensive line, used first-round picks to draft and acquire Devonta Smith and A.J. Brown and developed him with coach Nick Sirianni’s top-notch coaching staff. Look at the Seattle Seahawks, who revived quarterback Geno Smith and built up the offense around him. Look at the Detroit Lions with the reclamation project Jared Goff. The point is, there are ways to find a quarterback and install a user-friendly offense around him without backing into the No. 1 pick.

On the sideline, NFL observers were dumbfounded by the lack of a succession plan when then-offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels departed in 2022. Belichick’s promotion of the defensive-minded Matt Patricia backfired catastrophically, with the supposed thinking a year ago that a reunion with Bill O’Brien or a coordinator with an offensive pedigree would lead to another coach getting poached in short order.

And yet, Belichick has lost numerous coaches, executives and scouts over the years because they weren’t going to get a better job title in New England and found promotions elsewhere. They nearly faced a similar fate last offseason with Jerod Mayo before Kraft stepped in with a significant pay raise.

Belichick alienated Jones last season, a truth so obvious around the Patriots’ building that Kraft became aware and had to take the temperature of the situation. It rattled Jones’ confidence last season, among the other issues with the offense, and it’s reasonable to wonder how much it’s hindered his play this season, questioning whether any given mistake could shorten his leash or cut it entirely.

The Patriots are already at that point through five weeks. While Jones is expected to start Sunday against the Raiders, a league source said this is still a very important week of practice for the third-year quarterback as Belichick evaluates every position on the roster. If backup Bailey Zappe provided a spark in either of his two relief appearances during the last two losses, this decision would be a lot closer, a league source said.

The defense, according to sources, has grown increasingly frustrated with the offense, which ranks last in the NFL with 10.6 points per game.

In an attempt to get the team’s attention, Belichick changed the practice schedule this week, giving the players a day off Monday before returning Tuesday with a walkthrough. Typically, the Patriots have Tuesdays off after film sessions Monday. If these subtler tactics don’t lead to a better performance in Las Vegas, more prominent changes with the depth chart could be on the horizon.

The fact is the Patriots are 26-29 since 2020, the 20th-best record in the league and the third-best in the division over that stretch. More than half the league (18 teams) has won a playoff game since the Patriots’ last postseason victory in Super Bowl LIII.

They’ve fallen multiple games under .500 at some point during a fourth consecutive season — something that hadn’t happened since their 0-2 start in 2001. They’re at an imminent risk of falling four games under .500 for the first time since 2000.

One particular statistic tells the most damning story: During the offense’s last 31 possessions, which spans more than two games, the Patriots have actually been outscored, 22-3 by the opponent's defense. That’s three points for the offense and three touchdowns for opposing defenses.

While the Patriots have gradually pulled themselves out of these early holes in the previous three seasons to at least get into the playoff conversation, they weren’t doing it on the heels of the two most lopsided losses of Belichick’s career.

Maybe the Patriots do find a way to buck these trends. Maybe they just weren’t ready to compete with Dallas and needed a dramatic wake-up call against the Saints. Maybe they’ll beat the Raiders and catch a better team sleeping a week later to reshape their confidence, and they’ll improve as they get healthier in the second half. Then maybe they’ll rally together as underdogs and remind the world they were once written off at 1-4.

But the Patriots dynasty wasn’t built on maybes. They were the better team on the field nearly every week for almost 18 years — outplaying and out-coaching their opponents almost every week.

Now, they’re second to last in point differential (-76), turnover differential (-8) and in current possession of the fifth pick in the 2024 NFL Draft, an indication of how far they’ve got to climb if they’ve got any designs on being relevant this winter. Based on their lack of execution in the first five games, there’s little evidence to suggest a marked turnaround is imminent.

And Kraft has long since gotten sick of watching other teams’ highlights on his new scoreboard.

 
Bill is the next HC/GM of the NY Giants if he leaves, could we get Dabol to come in and fix Mac like he did The bum in Buffalo
 
Kraft is a businessman. And that comes before any fandom or old memories of life in Sullivan Stadium etc,

He bought the team for a pittance and saw the value increase to make the Patriots the 2nd most valuable team in the NFL, behind the Cowboys. And like any businessman, he will not countenance any risk to the value of his company. He will do whatever it takes not just to maintain, but increase the company's value. And if that means cutting Bill, he will do it. This is the world these business owners work in, it's utterly ruthless.
 
On the point in the article about the defense being pissed off wth the offense. One of the reporters said the defense is fed up with MAc freelancing at practice and in the games. One of them apparently asked who does he think he is, Mahomes?
 
I'll say up front I have no inside info on any of this, at least not yet. Actually, people close to the situation don't even want to talk about the possibility of Kraft splitting with BB.
I do think a change is a real possibility even if the team begins to perform better.
RKK has to look well beyond this year realizing BB's age and the team's recent performances. He'll have many things going through his head when determining his team's future.
I'll try to give a perspective of Kraft's thought processes going forward.

1. Kraft's Goal
I assume his goal for the Patriots is to build a team that can win a SB. I also assume he wants to make a profit so keeping expenses under control is also a goal.
Choosing to win a SB sounds elementary but it really isn't because that owner has to be committed to spare no expense. He has to provide the infrastructure in terms of a high quality stadium, superior practice facilities, technology, the best FO personnel, a high coaching budget, a modern training room, etc. Not all team owners care about a SB win. Some owners want to make a profit by keeping spending as low as possible (Wash, Chi, Det, as some examples). Some teams seem to be no more than a hobby for the owner (Wash, Det, and some others before new owners took over). We're fortunate that the Kraft family wants to win (and that until the last 3 years spending has never been an issue, at least that we knew about). Even so, the Patriots infrastructure was voted bottom 25% in a recent poll of team facilities by players. Maybe he could spend more in that area. He also has to decide if BB's philosophy for team building is as viable today as it was 20 years ago or if BB himself sees the value of having star players in the NFL today. He sees what we're seeing and he didn't suddenly go dumb.

Then the decision has to be whether to build a SB winner that can sustain winning or to build a team by going all in for a year or two then paying the piper for 2-3 years.
We've seen the "all in" approach succeed and some teams appear to be following that road by spending heavily for 2-3 years by pushing cap hits into the future. The Rams did just that in '22. SF, Miami and Buffalo are taking that approach for this year and next year. Other teams are in the discussion - I would include the Chargers and Philly as teams who are flirting with the thought since their total cap space for the next 3 years combined is only $78M and $98M. League average for the next 3 years is close to $200M and the Pats' cap space for the next 3 years is tops at $383M. It seems to me that BB has purposely accumulated this huge 3 year cap for a reason. Any GM, BB or someone new, could use that money to build a SB winner either way.


2. Hierarchy - Change or Status Quo
The next thing for Kraft to do is to schedule a meeting for the purpose of asking BB what his plans are for the next few years for himself personally and for the football operation. There's a lot of cap money being saved for a reason and Kraft will want to know everything BB has planned. If Kraft is comfortable with those plans then everything stays as it is now, status quo. But what if Kraft is hesitant?

In that scenario Kraft must consider a change in power structure. The first thing Kraft has to decide is whether or not he wants to continue with BB as is (absolute power as GM & HC) or separate his GM duties from his Head coaching duties. If he opts for separation, does BB want to continue at all and if he does want to continue, does he give up coaching or does he give up being the GM. Kraft won't make this decision on his own; he will most certainly discuss these things at length with BB in deference to BB's past contributions and successes. BB has earned this consideration from Kraft. If BB opts to continue as HC, Kraft will most likely agree if he's convinced BB will re-commit himself to coaching.
If BB opts for GM, Kraft has more thinking to do. He has to decide if he feels comfortable with BB at GM since more than likely BB's philosophy of building a team would continue. Kraft might see the value of more stars at skill positions from the evidence of recent successes of other teams. What then? I can see an impasse leading to a complete separation in that scenario. It's Kraft's team and he has the right to make these decisions. Then again, BB might see it the very same way! Old dogs can learn new tricks you know. These things have to be thoughtfully discussed without emotion. Their interests may align well enough to continue doing business together.

There's another strategy Kraft might take with BB that also makes good sense. Kraft knows that BB's vast knowledge is too valuable to let storm out the door. He could offer BB a highly paid consulting/personal services job with a lofty title with the Patriots. BB would make recommendations for football operations going forward, including input on HC and GM, but without the absolute power to implement those recommendations. As you can see, Kraft has many important organizational decisions coming up that will decide his team's future. It may be this year, it may be 2 years from now but it's coming and Kraft is most certainly contemplating those important decisions right now with his son, Jonathan.

Jeff Howe's approach is for Kraft to simply to fire BB. While possible, I don't foresee that happening unless, during a meeting with RKK, Belichick becomes aggressively defensive of his performance the last couple of years. If the situation is reduced to a spitting match, no one will win, everyone will lose and BB will be gone.
 
Yesterday, I filled out a survey from the Pats for Season Ticket Members (STM). Everything from game day experience to the state of the team. The questions regarding the state of the team included "The team is trending in the wrong direction". I don't recall ever seeing this type of an option in previous years when the state of the team could be relevant to the question.

This is clearly a concern for Kraft with regards to STM renewals and by extension, generated revenue from sponsors.

Also, Kraft is not getting younger (even if he likes to pretend he is) and certainly wants to see another Lombardi before he joins Myra. He's not in a position to be patient. The remainder of this season will be very interesting from this stand point.
 
I'll say up front I have no inside info on any of this, at least not yet. Actually, people close to the situation don't even want to talk about the possibility of Kraft splitting with BB.
I do think a change is a real possibility even if the team begins to perform better.
RKK has to look well beyond this year realizing BB's age and the team's recent performances. He'll have many things going through his head when determining his team's future.
I'll try to give a perspective of Kraft's thought processes going forward.

1. Kraft's Goal
I assume his goal for the Patriots is to build a team that can win a SB. I also assume he wants to make a profit so keeping expenses under control is also a goal.
Choosing to win a SB sounds elementary but it really isn't because that owner has to be committed to spare no expense. He has to provide the infrastructure in terms of a high quality stadium, superior practice facilities, technology, the best FO personnel, a high coaching budget, a modern training room, etc. Not all team owners care about a SB win. Some owners want to make a profit by keeping spending as low as possible (Wash, Chi, Det, as some examples). Some teams seem to be no more than a hobby for the owner (Wash, Det, and some others before new owners took over). We're fortunate that the Kraft family wants to win (and that until the last 3 years spending has never been an issue, at least that we knew about). Even so, the Patriots infrastructure was voted bottom 25% in a recent poll of team facilities by players. Maybe he could spend more in that area. He also has to decide if BB's philosophy for team building is as viable today as it was 20 years ago or if BB himself sees the value of having star players in the NFL today. He sees what we're seeing and he didn't suddenly go dumb.

Then the decision has to be whether to build a SB winner that can sustain winning or to build a team by going all in for a year or two then paying the piper for 2-3 years.
We've seen the "all in" approach succeed and some teams appear to be following that road by spending heavily for 2-3 years by pushing cap hits into the future. The Rams did just that in '22. SF, Miami and Buffalo are taking that approach for this year and next year. Other teams are in the discussion - I would include the Chargers and Philly as teams who are flirting with the thought since their total cap space for the next 3 years combined is only $78M and $98M. League average for the next 3 years is close to $200M and the Pats' cap space for the next 3 years is tops at $383M. It seems to me that BB has purposely accumulated this huge 3 year cap for a reason. Any GM, BB or someone new, could use that money to build a SB winner either way.


2. Hierarchy - Change or Status Quo
The next thing for Kraft to do is to schedule a meeting for the purpose of asking BB what his plans are for the next few years for himself personally and for the football operation. There's a lot of cap money being saved for a reason and Kraft will want to know everything BB has planned. If Kraft is comfortable with those plans then everything stays as it is now, status quo. But what if Kraft is hesitant?

In that scenario Kraft must consider a change in power structure. The first thing Kraft has to decide is whether or not he wants to continue with BB as is (absolute power as GM & HC) or separate his GM duties from his Head coaching duties. If he opts for separation, does BB want to continue at all and if he does want to continue, does he give up coaching or does he give up being the GM. Kraft won't make this decision on his own; he will most certainly discuss these things at length with BB in deference to BB's past contributions and successes. BB has earned this consideration from Kraft. If BB opts to continue as HC, Kraft will most likely agree if he's convinced BB will re-commit himself to coaching.
If BB opts for GM, Kraft has more thinking to do. He has to decide if he feels comfortable with BB at GM since more than likely BB's philosophy of building a team would continue. Kraft might see the value of more stars at skill positions from the evidence of recent successes of other teams. What then? I can see an impasse leading to a complete separation in that scenario. It's Kraft's team and he has the right to make these decisions. Then again, BB might see it the very same way! Old dogs can learn new tricks you know. These things have to be thoughtfully discussed without emotion. Their interests may align well enough to continue doing business together.

There's another strategy Kraft might take with BB that also makes good sense. Kraft knows that BB's vast knowledge is too valuable to let storm out the door. He could offer BB a highly paid consulting/personal services job with a lofty title with the Patriots. BB would make recommendations for football operations going forward, including input on HC and GM, but without the absolute power to implement those recommendations. As you can see, Kraft has many important organizational decisions coming up that will decide his team's future. It may be this year, it may be 2 years from now but it's coming and Kraft is most certainly contemplating those important decisions right now with his son, Jonathan.

Jeff Howe's approach is for Kraft to simply to fire BB. While possible, I don't foresee that happening unless, during a meeting with RKK, Belichick becomes aggressively defensive of his performance the last couple of years. If the situation is reduced to a spitting match, no one will win, everyone will lose and BB will be gone.

The guys on Patriots Unfiltered were adamant that there is no way that RKK would fire Bill mid-season. They said this is a HOF coach who built the organisation into what it is, and the image of them callously firing a coach in that manner would be awful and just not something they will even think about.
 
Yesterday, I filled out a survey from the Pats for Season Ticket Members (STM). Everything from game day experience to the state of the team. The questions regarding the state of the team included "The team is trending in the wrong direction". I don't recall ever seeing this type of an option in previous years when the state of the team could be relevant to the question.

This is clearly a concern for Kraft with regards to STM renewals and by extension, generated revenue from sponsors.

Also, Kraft is not getting younger (even if he likes to pretend he is) and certainly wants to see another Lombardi before he joins Myra. He's not in a position to be patient. The remainder of this season will be very interesting from this stand point.

Gauging public opinion. More evidence that RKK is thinking about the possibility of life without BB.
 
The guys on Patriots Unfiltered were adamant that there is no way that RKK would fire Bill mid-season. They said this is a HOF coach who built the organisation into what it is, and the image of them callously firing a coach in that manner would be awful and just not something they will even think about.

Mid-season? I don't think that's very likely either. Never considered that.
 
TommyD pointed out very well the new model pf the NFL when talking about the 49ers and how their big-time players are all coming up for monster paydays, which SF cannot possibly meet, so that 'dynasty' will be over soon enough. They will then tank for a season or two, wait until the cap war chest builds up again and then go all in and repeat the cycle.

I am surprised by the comments on the Patriot's facilities. I was always under the impression that the facilities at Gillette were top-notch and among the best. What is so bad?
 
Mid-season? I don't think that's very likely either. Never considered that.
I know, but it's been floating around with some pundits saying the performances are fire-worthy offenses right now.

Never going to happen.
 
This can't be brushed off with a flippant comment. This is a real-life situation developing. Besides, Howe is nothing like Mazz.
I read one sentence that sounded like the Mazz stupid sig and then stopped reading. Whenever I see that BB without TFB shit, it stops right there. It's like the Parcells without BB comparison.
I did read the rest of the article
and, no, Howe is not Mazz.
 
Gauging public opinion. More evidence that RKK is thinking about the possibility of life without BB.
I can promise you it will be Jonathon making the call not Bobby. Bob let Brady go with the fandom blaming Bill and will let Jonathon send Bill packing.

Once Bill is gone, It is Jonathon's team and Bobby will sit back and hang with his rich, hot Doctor like an old rich man should be doing.
 
Thanks, @chevss454 for posting the information. There is a lot to digest as fan and on the teams's side of the equation.
 
TommyD pointed out very well the new model pf the NFL when talking about the 49ers and how their big-time players are all coming up for monster paydays, which SF cannot possibly meet, so that 'dynasty' will be over soon enough. They will then tank for a season or two, wait until the cap war chest builds up again and then go all in and repeat the cycle.

I am surprised by the comments on the Patriot's facilities. I was always under the impression that the facilities at Gillette were top-notch and among the best. What is so bad?

Gillette is 23 years old. Cosmetics and amenities have been added but what about the visitors' locker room and training facilities?
 
I read one sentence that sounded like the Mazz stupid sig and then stopped reading. Whenever I see that BB without TFB shit, it stops right there. It's like the Parcells without BB comparison.
I did read the rest of the article
and, no, Howe is not Mazz.

I urge you to continue to read. There's some meat in there.
 
TommyD pointed out very well the new model pf the NFL when talking about the 49ers and how their big-time players are all coming up for monster paydays, which SF cannot possibly meet, so that 'dynasty' will be over soon enough. They will then tank for a season or two, wait until the cap war chest builds up again and then go all in and repeat the cycle.

I am surprised by the comments on the Patriot's facilities. I was always under the impression that the facilities at Gillette were top-notch and among the best. What is so bad?

Tommy is right. SF is all in for the next 2 years then it's their turn to nosedive. Buffalo and Miami are in that same category and close behind if not with them now, are the Chargers and Eagles.

total for the next 3 years cap

SF 49ers $63M
Buffalo $18M
Miami $68M

Chargers $76M
Eagles $99M
 
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