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Mac Jones Is Our QB1
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This is a good example of how analytics can really help.
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Meyers is right and it's sad to see. What can't be ignored is how the team responded so well to Zappe coming in. It was surprisingly obvious to me.
BB has a tricky situation on his hands.
He has an out for pulling Mac by saying he was concerned for Mac's health bc of all the runs by Mac when protection was breaking down. I doubt BB will point to Mac's int as the reason.
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Mazz22
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At the end of the day, it's football. It's a production business. The offense was listless under Mac. I do wonder how practice went and what Bill observed because it was obvious the team ignited under Zappe when he came in. I get what Meyers is saying but every position on this team is about who is the best player for the team. That has always been Bill's mantra and always will be. I am looking forward to his press conference later today. What a week he has on his hands with the Jete's coming up in New York.
Gumpboy45
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Yeah what a great last 3 quarters by zappe and the offense
Mazz22
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The Bears adjusted, credit to them. I do think it would have made a difference had Zappe been prepped for this game all week instead of coming in cold. I'd feel much better with him going against the Jete with a full week of practice than Mac.
Gumpboy45
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I see, He was only prepared to come of the bench and run 3 good plays....Gotcha
Zappe was a great spark plug when he came in, but after all things settled he was mostly ineffective. That is unless Patricia's game plan was to keep checking it down to the work horse back, then it went just as planned.
The most concerning thing to me were the frequent passes batted down. Zappe basically would get swallowed up by a muddy pocket, and it resulted in picks, hesitation, underthrows and a ton of batted down balls. That basically becomes a huge point of emphasis for teams going against the Pats if Zappe stays.
I'd like to think Mac is still getting the nod against the Jets. Zappe looked like his preseason form, which was not good.
Mazz22
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He scored 14 points in 4 minutes and got the lead. It was pretty fantastic but the Bears adjusted and of course the D blew forcing the O to play from behind.
Mazz22
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You may be right but I would like to see Zappe get a full week of prep like he did the last 2 games. It is insanely difficult to come in cold with no first team reps.
Here’s a different perspective: Jones got first team reps all week in practice and a game-plan that assumed he’d be playing. Zappe came in midway through the game and still performed despite those circumstances.
Gumpboy45
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he came in a made a couple plays, then he dumped down to Stevenson the rest of the game and allowed the Bears Dline to play volleyball, lets not forget 3 turn overs. you all want zappe and thats fine, but when it doesn't work there is no going back to Mac. there is nothing good coming from this. You guys are so blind to Bledose/Brady and this is completely different
Roberto71
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Nobody is blind to anything. The facts are Mac started this season poorly, that first drive in Miami, he started well but then forced that pass to Parker in the EZ and it eas intercepted. And he then in the next few games made bad errors and a lot of turnovers. He was also quite poor in the final stretch last season.
There's no point in doing an Ostrich here. Mac needs a lot of work IMHO. Zappe did what was asked when he had to step up after Mac and Hoyer went down. Yesterday didn't finish great, but our defense was appalling.
Their defense is pretty good, they are Number 3 in the league on pass defense.
I gotta say, at this stage, I'm leaning Zappe and think he should start going forward. Lets work on Mac and try and get him good QB poaching. Something is off with his game, mentally especially.
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Mazz22
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I do agree that this is a tough situation. Bill misplayed last night as bad as a coach could ... but that does not mean Zappe has not looked better at running this offense than Mac despite the second half.
Gumpboy45
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Mac is toast in NE. He was ruined for many reasons out of his control. Might as well play zappe, lose the rest of the games and draft another one. We are now what the jets and bills had been for 25 years.
Roberto71
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Come on.....let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater here...
Mac's issues are mental IMHO. It can be fixed.
Mazz22
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I agree. What do you think is causing it? I keep going back to the coaches - Judge and Patricia - as he has looked frustrated since TC.
Gumpboy45
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Dont misunderstand, Im not blaming Mac
Roberto71
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So what are you thinking? Bill pulls out a huge trade in the offseason and sends Mac to Josh and we get Carr?
Don't say such things.
Gumpboy45
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Oh man no, im just saying a player can lose a coach just as easy as a coach can lose a player.