Random Football News: 2023

Yes. KC is redoing his contract. They announced that after Lamar signed his deal. Burrow is next and then you will see Mahomes.
 
That's a fuckton of money for someone who hasn't won shit.

He's another ESPN darling though, and that plays into some of these front offices when making their decisions.

He's an average to above average QB - but that's what gets you a huge contract as a QB these days - teams cannot fathom the idea of trying to find someone better via the draft.
 
That's a fuckton of money for someone who hasn't won shit.

He's another ESPN darling though, and that plays into some of these front offices when making their decisions.
heard on sirius the other day that when you blow a 27 pt lead or whatever they did vs jax,qb has to take part of that. they said his completion % was like 58% and he didn't play well. i love the kid but i'd definitely wonder a bit until he does it.
 
heard on sirius the other day that when you blow a 27 pt lead or whatever they did vs jax,qb has to take part of that. they said his completion % was like 58% and he didn't play well. i love the kid but i'd definitely wonder a bit until he does it.
The Chargers as a whole team/org have to prove they can do something.
I like Herbert as a QB but he/chargers need to win when it matters
 
heard on sirius the other day that when you blow a 27 pt lead or whatever they did vs jax,qb has to take part of that. they said his completion % was like 58% and he didn't play well. i love the kid but i'd definitely wonder a bit until he does it.
He had a statistically significant drop off in production last year - or around the time all teams had 30 games of film on him. :coffee:
 
It is. But he has the potential to win with his talents so ... it's like we were saying on the other thread, these ballooning QB salaries are gong to cripple other players from getting paid.
Are we sure about his 'talents'? Or does he max out at Kirk Cousins?
 
The Chargers as a whole team/org have to prove they can do something.
I like Herbert as a QB but he/chargers need to win when it matters
I'm not a fan of these kinds of comparison but if you gave Belichick that roster, he'd be in the SB in 2 years or less.
 
The Chargers as a whole team/org have to prove they can do something.
I like Herbert as a QB but he/chargers need to win when it matters

Joe Burrow brought his team to 2 straight AFCCGs. Herbert is 25-24.

The Chargers weak link has been their defense which is still an issue for '23. Very little was done to shore it up this off season.
They'll have to score lots of points to win the big games bc a decent offense will score pretty much at will against them.
 
The Chargers weak link has been their defense which is still an issue for '23. Very little was done to shore it up this off season.
They'll have to score lots of points to win the big games bc a decent offense will score pretty much at will against them.
How is this possible though? There is INSANE talent on that defense. How many 1st-team all-pros do they have?
 
How is this possible though? There is INSANE talent on that defense. How many 1st-team all-pros do they have?

Mack and Bosa are terrific but teams ran up the middle without trouble. That was their issue.
Football Outsiders ranked them 15th in defense last year despite HC Brandon Staley being a DC previously.
 
Joe Burrow got carted off the practice field today for a non-contact calf injury. No news yet.
 
Z. Thomas is really the only issue I have with this list, tbh, although I could give my reasons why Ronde Barber and Don Coryell shouldn't get in either, but the entire thing is pretty meaningless at this point. Soon to be the Pro Basketball Hall of Fame, where if you play for 10 years, you get in.
 
Joe Burrow got carted off the practice field today for a non-contact calf injury. No news yet.
I hope he's all right. Not only is he critical to the Bengals' success, any time without him will skew the balance in the AFC 1) and 2) Burrow's going to start getting the 'fragile' whispers.
 
Z. Thomas is really the only issue I have with this list, tbh, although I could give my reasons why Ronde Barber and Don Coryell shouldn't get in either, but the entire thing is pretty meaningless at this point. Soon to be the Pro Basketball Hall of Fame, where if you play for 10 years, you get in.
it's like the pro bowl etc. now. a real shame.
 
Sean Payton...dayum




Sean Payton rips Nathaniel Hackett for Broncos job, jabs Jets​

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    Jeff Legwold, ESPN Senior WriterJul 27, 2023, 11:07 AM ET
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- Denver Broncos coach Sean Payton has said he doesn't want his team to look in the rearview mirror, but Payton took a long gaze back in an interview with USA Today Sports that posted Thursday.
In an expansive mood, Payton called the work Nathaniel Hackett and his staff did with the 2022 Broncos "one of the worst coaching jobs in the history of the NFL" and said there were "20 dirty hands" around quarterback Russell Wilson's career-worst season that included just 16 touchdown passes and a league-high 55 sacks.
Ultimately, Payton summed it up with "everything I heard about last season, we're doing the opposite."
Payton also took aim at Hackett's new employer -- the New York Jets -- where Hackett is offensive coordinator and the team traded for a high-profile quarterback in Aaron Rodgers much like the Broncos had traded for Wilson last year.
"It doesn't happen often where an NFL team or organization gets embarrassed," Payton told USA Today. "And that happened here. Part of it was their own fault, relative to spending so much [expletive] time trying to win the offseason -- the PR, the pomp and circumstance, marching people around and all this stuff.
"We're not doing any of that. The Jets did that this year. You watch. 'Hard Knocks,' all of it. I can see it coming. Remember when [former Washington owner] Dan Snyder put that Dream Team together? I was at the Giants [in 2000]. I was a young coach. I thought, 'How are we going to compete with them? Deion [Sanders is] there now.' That team won eight games or whatever. So, listen ... just put the work in."
The Broncos will play the Jets in Week 5, hosting Hackett's new team on Oct. 8.
"I'm not going acknowledge Sean. He's been in the league for a while, he can say whatever the hell he wants," Jets coach Robert Saleh said Thursday. "As far as what we have going on here, I kind of live by the saying, 'If you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping.' So hate away."
"Obviously, we're doing something right if you've got to talk about us when we don't play you until [Week 5]. And I'm good with it, but the guys in our locker room, they've earned everything that's coming to them. I'm really excited about what's going on. I think Hackett is doing a phenomenal job here and the coaching staff is doing a phenomenal job. We're focused on us. I get it. There's a lot of external noise. There's a lot of people hating on us. There's a lot of people looking for us to fail. There's a lot of crows pecking at our neck. All you can do is spread your wings and keep flying high until those crows fall off and suffocate from the inability to breathe."
Payton has been offered plenty of opportunities to talk about Wilson's and the Broncos' performance multiple times locally. The strongest comments he had made were that the offense as well as the team's play overall in the 5-12 season was "hard to watch" and that Wilson would not be allowed to have a personal quarterback coach or other support staff of his own in the team's complex.
Payton also made his comments to USA Today after he had deflected multiple questions about Wilson to more than 50 members of local media just minutes before. Payton is not scheduled to speak after Thursday's practice but will after Friday's session.
Payton has supported Wilson throughout the offseason and has offered that more structure and a better "vision" on offense will help the 12th-year veteran return to form. He told USA Today that Wilson "has plenty of gas left in the tank" and added:
"Man, we ran that kid through the car wash a hundred times now. But that's a storyline, though. How is this going to look? How's it going to work? You know what? We're fixing to find out, as Bill [Parcells] would say."
And on Hackett's and general manager George Paton's treatment of Wilson, Payton told USA Today:
"Oh, man, there's so much dirt around that. There's 20 dirty hands, for what was allowed, tolerated in the fricking training rooms, the meeting rooms. The offense. I don't know Hackett. A lot of people had dirt on their hands. It wasn't just Russell. He didn't just flip. He still has it. This B.S. that he hit a wall? Shoot, they couldn't get a play in. They were 29th in the league in pre-snap penalties on both sides of the ball.
"That wasn't his fault," Payton added. "That was the parents who allowed it. That's not an incrimination on him but an incrimination on the head coach, the GM, the president and everybody else who watched it all happen. Now, a quarterback having an office and a place to watch film is normal. But all those things get magnified when you're losing. And that other stuff, I've never heard of it. We're not doing that."
Asked by ESPN's Dianna Russini whether he wanted to clarify any of his comments, Payton said he is just sticking up for his players, who he believes deserved better.
ESPN's Rich Cimini contributed to this report.
 
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