Confirmed. Broncos v Pats. are we ready?

The Patriots have been consistently better than Manning's teams over the years. Did you know this? In their careers, the average passer rating has been around 82, so let's say, a passer rating of under 80 would be considered a "below average" game for a QB. In TBs career, he has played in 193 regular season games. Of those games, he has had 60, or 31% of his games, with a passer rating under 80. What is the Patriots record in those games when he plays "below average?" The answer, they are 30-30, or .500. Manning, on the other hand, has played 240 games, and has 56 games below an 80 passer rating, or 23% of his games. What was his team's records when he played "below average?" 18-38, or a win percentage of .32. In the playoffs, TB has played 25 games, and has played "below average" in 11 of them, or 44%. The Patriots record in those games, 7-4, or a winning percentage of 63%. Manning has played 21 playoff games, and has 7 games with a "below average" passer rating. His team's record when he plays below average, 3-4, or 43% win percentage. The Patriots have been far better in games when their QB does not play well, they have had the talent, and the coaching, to overcome it. (Note, I only counted games the QBs played over a couple of series in, i.e., threw over 15 passes.)

And what you seem to forget is that PeyPey, at least in the big games, has the tendency to directly impact (negatively) the outcome of games.

What was Brady's passer rating on Saturday? 78.4

Know why that matters? Because Brady did what was asked of him and didn't turn the ball over.

Also, while Peyton had a worse defense before 2007, he had a significantly better offense. Since 2007 things have evened out a bit, and this year Denver is a MUCH better team on paper as of the game Sunday.
 
And what you seem to forget is that PeyPey, at least in the big games, has the tendency to directly impact (negatively) the outcome of games.

What was Brady's passer rating on Saturday? 78.4

Know why that matters? Because Brady did what was asked of him and didn't turn the ball over.

Also, while Peyton had a worse defense before 2007, he had a significantly better offense. Since 2007 things have evened out a bit, and this year Denver is a MUCH better team on paper as of the game Sunday.


Actually Defense was probably the reason they won the 06 superbowl, but in a lot of his playoff losses before 07, the offense is what failed badly. 02 the colts scored zero points, 03, the colts scored 14 points manning had 4 ints, 04, colts scored 3 points..06 Manning had a bad series, but they won anyway, in one game failing to score a single td in the game, so defense has not always played a part. Brady has no playoff games the pats did not at least score a td. Manning has 4.
 
Actually Defense was probably the reason they won the 06 superbowl, but in a lot of his playoff losses before 07, the offense is what failed badly. 02 the colts scored zero points, 03, the colts scored 14 points manning had 4 ints, 04, colts scored 3 points..06 Manning had a bad series, but they won anyway, in one game failing to score a single td in the game, so defense has not always played a part. Brady has no playoff games the pats did not at least score a td. Manning has 4.

Ya, but the D wasn't great in the regular season of 2006 so I sort of meant starting with the playoffs (January-February 2007).
 
Ya, but the D wasn't great in the regular season of 2006 so I sort of meant starting with the playoffs (January-February 2007).

Making an argument that Peyton is not good in the regular season, is not really what I am doing, him and Brady both have shown they can lead bad defenses to the playoffs, I just think Peyton has done it with some better weapons around him, but its more abut what happens when they get there.
 
Why do I never see fjdad and coltsguy logged in at the same time? Both claim fans of other teams talk only about Peyton...hmmmm :coffee:
 
Why do I never see fjdad and coltsguy logged in at the same time? Both claim fans of other teams talk only about Peyton...hmmmm :coffee:

I keep asking you to post that "rules of fandom" thing you always seem to be referencing.

There seem to be set guidelines for how & who fans can root for. I never knew it existed, but man, do I feel uncool on here for having a fave team and still rooting for one of my fave players. Faux pas at best.
 
I keep asking you to post that "rules of fandom" thing you always seem to be referencing.

There seem to be set guidelines for how & who fans can root for. I never knew it existed, but man, do I feel uncool on here for having a fave team and still rooting for one of my fave players. Faux pas at best.

Ok here is my rule, if you are a fan of a team, do not be afraid to admit it...my joke comment was more about fjdad than you, you are just a colts fan who cannot let go of peyton, that is pretty standard, he is something else.
 
I have been a Patriots fan longer than you have been alive, have been to a least 50 games the last forty years, and spent thousands upon thousands of dollars following them all over the U.S. But, I am not a homer. I call a spade a spade, and I root for the team, not the player. So, if there is a better player than a Patriots player, I will say so. In my opinion, based on what he has done in INdy and Denver, Manning is the best to ever play the position. You disagree. I have no problems with your opinion. But you sure do with mine. But, a lot more people agree with me than you.
FWIW, I still think Dan Marino was better than both Manning or Brady.
 
I frankly do not care who you root for, I just find it funny that some colt fans are more worried about what Peyton does than their own team. If Brady left and went to the Jets, I would hope he trips over his moat and drowns...

Reading this statement is just killing me ROFL.
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If I had to choose a Manning to win on the final drive in a SB it would be Eli.. Eli born with assassins blood. Tom Brady born with assassins blood. Peyton born chokers blood.
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If I had to choose a Manning to win on the final drive in a SB it would be Eli.. Eli born with assassins blood. Tom Brady born with assassins blood. Peyton born chokers blood.
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Oh of course, Manning might be an int machine, but you put him in a playoff game he turns into superman. Now he has been fortunate to have a good dline killing opposing Qb's but when he has to and all the odds were against him...boom he came through. It seems the more Peyton has the harder it gets.
 
I frankly do not care who you root for, I just find it funny that some colt fans are more worried about what Peyton does than their own team. If Brady left and went to the Jets, I would hope he trips over his moat and drowns...

Meh. The Broncos are the lesser of two AFC evils.

:shrug:
 
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