After listening to Goodell today 9/11/16 on Deflategate

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I have lost more interest in the NFL then I ever thought possible
 
He was on the Today Sunday show
 
I saw it on the other thread.

I've moved on. I stopped arguing with people. Can't fix stupid.

We're on to Arizona
 
It's amazing that Goodell is still pushing the same lies that many have now exposed as pure BS (ie. 'independent' nature of investigation and scientific problems with its findings). He's singing the same note he sung when this all began, despite there being considerably more information to destroy his position. He hasn't even abandoned that line of argument to latch onto Brady destroying his phone.

No, he's still selling the same story that we and much of the world now know is completely false.

It's ridiculous, and it's appalling that more in the MSM aren't tearing him down for it.
 
He's relying on phone destruction for "conduct detrimental"
He's leaning on the idiot judge saying "overwhelming evidence" to convince public opinion
 
mooseontheloose said:
It's ridiculous, and it's appalling that more in the MSM aren't tearing him down for it.
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They'll get to it. Right after they clear up Hillary's e-mail issues. Not meaning to be political. Point is msm no longer are journalists. They're shills for their binky d'jour.

Cheers
 
mooseontheloose said:
It's amazing that Goodell is still pushing the same lies that many have now exposed as pure BS (ie. 'independent' nature of investigation and scientific problems with its findings). He's singing the same note he sung when this all began, despite there being considerably more information to destroy his position. He hasn't even abandoned that line of argument to latch onto Brady destroying his phone.

No, he's still selling the same story that we and much of the world now know is completely false.

It's ridiculous, and it's appalling that more in the MSM aren't tearing him down for it.
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This is why I'm not watching any games today or for at least the next few weeks. I'm a very frustrated fan who use to love the NFL
 
Darth Despot said:
I'm out until week 5 and then I will see if I care enough to pay attention. It's touch and go I think.
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I haven't watched a second of football today, and truthfully I always had the Red zone channel on when the Patriots aren't playing at the time. Haven't missed it at all today.
 
I concur with the other comments about losing interest in the NFL. I haven't renewed Game Pass, which allows me to watch most games live online. It's £130 per season.

Deflategate was the final straw. However, it was compounded by the greed of the NFL and its owners (increasingly tedious ad breaks), the CTE thing and other stupidity. Oh, and the fact that deliberate helmet to helmet shots attract less controversy than other things.

I'm also annoyed that there's a 24 hour blackout on games shown live on Sky TV here. It effectively means that I have no chance of avoiding the score on any Pats games played in the 8.30pm slot (Eastern Time). I would have to watch them nearly two days later when you factor in work commitments etc.
 
chevss454 said:
Florio is all over Goodell's comments

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...n-goodells-latest-comments-about-deflategate/
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The comments below the article are 98% anti-Goodell.
I loved this 1.

<cite>rpahl13 says:</cite> <small>Sep 11, 2016 4:41 PM </small> Brady is innocent. I will prove it.
For the science, the following scientists/firms have demonstrated that no deflation occurred: John Leonard. Drew Fustin. HeadSmart Labs. Mide Technology. Dale Syphers. Michael Naughton. FLIR Systems.
Basically, a 20F drop = a 1psi drop. Rain causes an additional drop up to .7psi. The Pats’ footballs averaged 11.5psig at halftime, the lowest was 10.9psig. That’s within the expected effects of the ~50F raining weather.
No scientists have confirmed or even agreed with Wells’ conclusion. Wells’ report had instances of obvious bias. For proof, look at the images of the gauge needles – figure 3, page 15 of Exponent’s appendix. They’re measured from different points to make their difference in lengths seem smaller, so Wells’ could more easily dismiss ref Walt Anderson’s recollection that he used the logo gauge pre-game.
Wells/Exponent did an experiment to try to determine which gauge was used. See section VIIB for the explanation. The problem is, without precise temperature values for the pressure measurements, it’s literally 100% impossible to experimentally determine which gauge was used.
The Colts’ footballs did not appear to lose as much pressure because they were measured at the *end* of halftime. The Pats’ were measured at the start of halftime. This means the Colts’ had ~10 minutes to warm and dry while inside, and the Pats had little to no time. More time = more heat = more pressure. Newton’s law of cooling.
If you think the May 2014 text with ‘the deflator’ matters, consider the following;
Months later, during a cold November Pats@Packers game, McNally texted Jastremski “deflate and give somebody that jacket” when he saw him on TV on the sideline wearing a thick jacket and holding another. This definitively demonstrates a different meaning for the word.
In an October 2014 text, Jastremski mentions to his fiancee after a Pats v Jets game that the footballs were nearly 16psig, but they were “supposed to be 13” This demonstrates it was not their goal to go outside the legal limit.
Brady’s phone. As posted on Brady’s FB: “I replaced my broken Samsung phone with a new iPhone 6 AFTER my attorneys made it clear to the NFL that my actual phone device would not be subjected to investigation under ANY circumstances.”
This means his phone was not evidence. It was never going to be evidence. Therefore, destroying it was not tantamount to destroying evidence.
Besides, Wells went through McNally and Jastremski’s phones and found no evidence of a scheme. In order to believe Brady’s phone had other evidence, you’ve got to believe he texted it only to someone BESIDES the last 2 guys to handle footballs before a game. That is completely illogical.
If their texts are indicative of any kind of deflation, it’s because Jastremski pumps up footballs to rub them down with rags/brushes, then gives them to McNally to set them to the desired pressure before the pre-game inspection. Not tampering, just preparing footballs together legally.
There was no motive to tamper with the footballs. In 2006 Brady got other QBs to support him in petitioning the league to change a rule, allowing teams to alter the surface texture of footballs. This means if Brady wanted pressure outside the legal limit, he could have just gotten that rule changed. There was no need to sneak around. His 2015 stats were better than the previous FOUR seasons. The Patriots 2015 fumble rate was as remarkable as any other year. There’s no apparent statistical advantage.
There is no evidence the footballs were ever tampered with.
There is no evidence anyone wanted to tamper with them.
There is no motive to tamper with them.
 
HarpoonIPA said:
This is why I'm not watching any games today or for at least the next few weeks. I'm a very frustrated fan who use to love the NFL
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O.Z.O. Jr. got home from his road trip yesterday and watched the second half of the Cowgirls/Midgets game, so I somewhat watched that. Just enough to see Dallas screw the pooch at the end and do what they do so well. Other than that the TV wasn't on the whole day. I'll be watching the 'Skins/Steelers tonight because the Redskins are (and have been forever) my 1A team. Other than that I go out of my way to watch nothing else associated with the NFLE.
 
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