In Celebration Of Tom Brady, Bill Belichick & The New England Patriots

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chevss454 said:
Can't wait for BB to share the depth and breadth of his wisdom to the nation.



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Ernie is on watch...
 
chevss454 said:
Can't wait for BB to share the depth and breadth of his wisdom to the nation.
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That will be one series worth watching. I was left wondering who Eisen was referring to when he talked about BB having a long conversation with a guest while they were trying to get another one on set. My guess is Staubach, but it could have been LT.
 
Rodney wuv

Rodney Harrison makes the case for more Patriots Hall of Famers

Posted by Mike Florio on July 24, 2019, 10:17 PM EDT

The Steelers of the 1970s, which won four of four Super Bowls, put nine players and one head coach in the Hall of Fame. The Super Bowl-winning Patriots teams of the 2000s, which won three and appeared in another, will get their first Hall of Famer in two weeks. Former Patriots safety Rodney Harrison, who’ll soon join the team’s Hall of Fame, has a problem with that.

“People don’t think we have ballers,” Harrison told Karen Guregian of the Boston Herald, via NBCSportsBoston.com. “I’m like, Ty Law was the greatest defensive back I’ve ever played with. He’s one of the best I’ve ever seen. Richard Seymour, Willie McGinest, Troy Brown, Kevin Faulk, these dudes were, bad, bad dudes.”

Law has secured a spot in the 2019 Hall of Fame class. The others, including Harrison, continue to wait.

“They weren’t just system guys,” Harrison said. “It’s unfair when people say, ‘As long as you had Tom [Brady] and Bill [Belichick],’ well, dude, Tom and Bill can’t get it done by themselves. It takes a lot of really smart, great players. It’s just unfortunate. It’s almost a form of discrimination. People don’t want to elevate us, or recognize, or acknowledge how great we are, because they’re such haters. Everywhere I go, people hate on the Patriots. So we don’t get credit.

“All I hear is Tom and Bill. But that’s such a lazy analysis. They don’t see what the team really is, and that’s really frustrating because a lot of guys get cheated and don’t really get the recognition they deserve.”

Tom and Bill will surely both get to the Hall of Fame; they could get in separately for what they did prior to 2008, and for what they did after 2008. The real question is whether others who played with them — along with owner Robert Kraft — will get in. Unlike the team of the ’70s, the team of the ’00s and the ’10s may not end up flooding Canton with bronze busts.
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Most rushing TDs by NFL teams in the last ten years (@PFF)

1. Patriots - 180
2. Panthers - 165
3. Saints - 164
4. Vikings - 155
League Avg.- 127


BB knows a thing or two because he's seen a thing or two.
 
Even though the Patriots had a third round grade on Brady, they didn't pick him until the sixth. That was primarily due to Bill Belichick having to institute a significant rebuild, so they used their early and mid-round picks on lineman and skill players. They also didn't need a quarterback with Drew Bledsoe on the roster.
Though when Brady was still available in the sixth round, the Patriots could no longer pass up that kind of value.



https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/br...e-tom-brady-after-impressive-workout-michigan
 
I enjoyed Mike's reaction regarding the Pats visit to the HOF at the end of this segment.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joining <a href="https://twitter.com/GetUpESPN?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GetUpESPN</a> to discuss Tom Brady's contract "extension" and what makes it unique, a Patriots trip to the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and a good laugh on whether Bill Belichick and Brady spent some extra time at the Hall with the future in mind. <a href="https://t.co/GylSeEaIbk">pic.twitter.com/GylSeEaIbk</a></p>— Mike Reiss (@MikeReiss) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeReiss/status/1158357187741343744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 5, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Wow, this should really be good.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This should be fun <a href="https://t.co/KWVhQRyJeL">pic.twitter.com/KWVhQRyJeL</a></p>— Cris Collinsworth (@CollinsworthPFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/CollinsworthPFF/status/1158565169066323968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Roberto71 said:
Wow, this should really be good.

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Yes it should be. Fun and educational. I know next to nothing about the players of the 1st 30 years with the exception of the few who always get mentioned. Red Grange, Curly Lambeau, Jim Thorpe, etc.
But BB goes to film of Carl Hinkle? Yeah, this will be fun.



Belichick said that he was honored to be on the panel. When the league reveals the team with a series of shows on the NFL Network beginning in November, the Patriots’ six-time Super Bowl winner will serve as analyst. How fitting. A few times over the years, I’ve chatted with Belichick about historical topics – and that’s when he opens up, so contrary to the times he’s asked about some present-day matter, like who will call the plays for his defense since Brian Flores bolted for Miami.

Well, B.B., the panel was honored, too, by your presence – and input. Never mind his task of running the defending champs. The Patriots coach was maybe the first to volunteer to serve on a subcommittee that reviewed film and wrote reports on stars from the so-called “golden era” – the 1920s through '40s – that included two-way players and a football much fatter than the current model.

Madden, Hall of Fame GMs Bill Polian and Ron Wolf and historians Joe Horrigan and Chris Willis also served on that subcommittee. The detailed reports they came up with aided enormously.

Belichick wasted no time tapping NFL Films for archival footage, which led to notes from film-study breakdown of players like Danny Fortmann and Clark Hinkle that were shared with the entire panel.

“Knowing Bill, I knew how he would attack it,” former Ravens GM Ozzie Newsome told USA TODAY Sports. When Belichick coached the Browns during the 1990s, Newsome worked with him as a personnel executive. “That’s what he does. He doesn’t do anything without going all-in.”

Added Jaworski, “It was a testament to how serious everyone took this.”

When the team is announced, some prominent names will be missing – which will fuel a round of debate in itself. Rest assured, they were discussed, pondered, compared. And the 100 who remained, in addition to the 10 coaches selected, surely went through the wringer.

One thing for certain: This panelist added a few more layers of intel and appreciation for NFL history.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...-players-100-panel-bill-belichick/1903018001/


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Men's Health magazine caught up with TB on vacation in the Bahamas and made a fun video


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Roberto71 said:
Man, some on the media really are looking for an angle on Tom, re-hashing old news and making all kinds of claims. MMQB is the latest.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/08/08/tom-brady-contract-expiring-2020-house-sale-future-plans

And Curran seems obsessed on this, he's pedalling his theories to whoever will listen.
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Yeah, Tom E. has become unbearable recently with his obsession that Brady is jumping ship. I won't listen and won't read anything from Tom E. until he drops that axe he's grinding.
 
In today's press conference there was this interesting question and answer:

Q: Do you notice that even after a full year with a guy, you find new ways that you may be able to fit him into the scheme of things?

BB: Sure, sometimes, yeah. I think there’s always a period of growth. I mean, I’ve been with one player for 20 years, and I think there’s still growth. Tom and I talked about a lot of things the last couple weeks just relevant to the offense, plays, evolution of different things that we’re seeing, how to adjust to them, how to handle them. So, I think that’s ongoing. Certainly, if we do it, I would think that would be true of any player, or any coach for that matter. It’s an evolving game. It changes every year, it changes week-to-week, so I don’t think you’re ever just stuck in one spot.

On the one hand, it's kinda a "duh" moment, but on the other hand, is he right? Is the head coach for all 32 teams actually talking with their QB about what he's seeing, the best way to deal with that, and all of that? Or are some leaving that to their offensive coordinator and QB coach? To my eyes it was just a friendly reminder that regardless of being a "defensive minded coach", Belichick has his hands in EVERYTHING.
 
chevss454 said:
Yes it should be. Fun and educational. I know next to nothing about the players of the 1st 30 years with the exception of the few who always get mentioned. Red Grange, Curly Lambeau, Jim Thorpe, etc.
But BB goes to film of Carl Hinkle? Yeah, this will be fun.



Belichick said that he was honored to be on the panel. When the league reveals the team with a series of shows on the NFL Network beginning in November, the Patriots’ six-time Super Bowl winner will serve as analyst. How fitting. A few times over the years, I’ve chatted with Belichick about historical topics – and that’s when he opens up, so contrary to the times he’s asked about some present-day matter, like who will call the plays for his defense since Brian Flores bolted for Miami.

Well, B.B., the panel was honored, too, by your presence – and input. Never mind his task of running the defending champs. The Patriots coach was maybe the first to volunteer to serve on a subcommittee that reviewed film and wrote reports on stars from the so-called “golden era” – the 1920s through '40s – that included two-way players and a football much fatter than the current model.

Madden, Hall of Fame GMs Bill Polian and Ron Wolf and historians Joe Horrigan and Chris Willis also served on that subcommittee. The detailed reports they came up with aided enormously.

Belichick wasted no time tapping NFL Films for archival footage, which led to notes from film-study breakdown of players like Danny Fortmann and Clark Hinkle that were shared with the entire panel.

“Knowing Bill, I knew how he would attack it,” former Ravens GM Ozzie Newsome told USA TODAY Sports. When Belichick coached the Browns during the 1990s, Newsome worked with him as a personnel executive. “That’s what he does. He doesn’t do anything without going all-in.”

Added Jaworski, “It was a testament to how serious everyone took this.”

When the team is announced, some prominent names will be missing – which will fuel a round of debate in itself. Rest assured, they were discussed, pondered, compared. And the 100 who remained, in addition to the 10 coaches selected, surely went through the wringer.

One thing for certain: This panelist added a few more layers of intel and appreciation for NFL history.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...-players-100-panel-bill-belichick/1903018001/


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Not sure if everyone's seen this, but Rich Eisen talks about he couldn't get BB to shut up and move onto the next player.

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BB is in mid-season form with this interview.

ROFL

Burton: “You put out a statement earlier today. Anything you’d like to add to that?”

Belichick: “Nope.”

Burton: “Not at all?”

Belichick: “No. That’s why we put out the statement.”

https://twitter.com/i/status/1162890777384689664

Edit: He was even more on point today.

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Steve Palazzolo@PFF_Steve
Winning% when team allows >=21 points (including playoffs) NFL (since 2001): .266

Brady .561
Peyton .444
Rodgers .433
Luck .411
Brees .366
Rivers .350
Roethlisberger .345
Wilson .319


This takes care of any argument that Brady wins because he has superior defenses.
(Wilson and Roethlisberger, otoh...)
 
chevss454 said:
Steve Palazzolo@PFF_Steve
Winning% when team allows >=21 points (including playoffs) NFL (since 2001): .266

Brady .561
Peyton .444
Rodgers .433
Luck .411
Brees .366
Rivers .350
Roethlisberger .345
Wilson .319


This takes care of any argument that Brady wins because he has superior defenses.
(Wilson and Roethlisberger, otoh...)
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System scoring.
 
Tom Brady is the most marketable player in the NFL

Posted by Mike Florio on August 28, 2019, 12:40 PM EDT

The NFL’s most marketable player is old enough to be the father of many of the league’s players.

A poll conducted by Sports Business Journal of 40 “marketing/branding execs, sports business professors and both print and on-air football media” resulted in Patriots quarterback Tom Brady being named the league’s most marketable player.

Coming in a close second was Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes. At a distant third was Browns receiver Odell Beckham, Jr., followed by Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield. Rounding out the top 10 were Giants running back Saquon Barkley, Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers, Texans defensive end J.J. Watt, Steelers receiver JuJu Smith-Schuster, Saints quarterback Drew Brees, and Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott.

The fact that Brady finished first becomes even more amazing, given the cluster of young star players in the league. It also underscores the possibility that an owner who hopes to sell tickets, suites, merchandise, etc. may become inclined to offer Brady the kind of payday he’ll never get in New England to pry him away after 2019, when his contract with the Patriots expires.

Football ultimately is business, and it would be very good business for any NFL team to do business with Tom Brady.
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chevss454 said:
Steve Palazzolo@PFF_Steve
Winning% when team allows >=21 points (including playoffs) NFL (since 2001): .266

Brady .561
Peyton .444
Rodgers .433
Luck .411
Brees .366
Rivers .350
Roethlisberger .345
Wilson .319


This takes care of any argument that Brady wins because he has superior defenses.
(Wilson and Roethlisberger, otoh...)
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Just another amazing stat that proves beyond the shadow of any doubt that Brady is miles ahead of anyone else in the debate for GOAT. I know, it's not really a debate anymore, but still...
 
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