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Breer just posted this. In a rush so didn't look for the Mankins threads. Mods, merge if you want.

Agent: Patriots 'have totally lost' Mankins
Link|Comments (6) Posted by Albert Breer August 13, 2010 07:00 PM

The next step in the ongoing saga between the Patriots and Logan Mankins should come this weekend.

Sunday is the deadline for the club to send Mankins a letter stating their intent to place him on the roster exempt list. The team has to do that to reserve the right to put him on that list, a move the Patriots can executed starting at midnight on the day of their second preseason game, which is Thursday.

If the club puts Mankins on that list, he'll have to sit out three games after he signs before joining the roster. Preseason games do count, so if, say, he signed before the third preseason game, he'd be eligible after Week 1. The real pressure point here comes in midseason -- Mankins needs to be on the roster for six games to accrue the season towards free agency. If he's on the roster exempt list, he'll need to sign before the club's eighth game (Week 9) to play in its 11th contest.

Asked if the letter has come, agent Frank Bauer said, "We haven't got it yet, but it'll come." Then asked where the negotiations stand, Bauer said he has heard "Not a word" from the team. "They don't care. ... I would expect them to do everything nasty that they can," he added.

"They have totally lost this player mentally," Bauer said. "For this young man to work like he has and play for the club for five years, and be promised he'd be taken care of, and to throw the offer they did across the table? It was never, ever a five-year deal. They wanted six years, they wanted seven. They have to do what they have to do, and we'll do what we have to do."

My understanding is that the offer on the table was a five-year extension off his RFA tender from this year (before it was chopped down), and would legitimately make him the third-highest paid guard in the league, with the requisite guarantees and bonuses. That offer was made after Saints guard Jahri Evans got his seven-year, $56.7 million deal in May, and is now off the table.
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I'm sure Guarenteed,vs Bonus vs whatever structure ETC..

But If the offer was truly a 5 year deal making him the 3rd higest paid guard in the league(f***Mankins)
 
Box_O_Rocks said:
I'm more worried about losing Jh than Mankins at this point. :sulk:
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I think you'll find her back here in one form or another eventually. You know how she loves those off topic posts about livestock. :coffee:
 
I wonder if they forgot to add "and Logan will be given a great big hug after each game and each training session" to the contract.

I'm a little confused about what else they could mean when they say "taken care of" to be honest. I assume it's not Michael taking care of Fredo type of "taken care of," but 5 year deal with the third most money for the position in the league seems pretty good to me.
 
anderson said:
I wonder if they forgot to add "and Logan will be given a great big hug after each game and each training session" to the contract.

I'm a little confused about what else they could mean when they say "taken care of" to be honest. I assume it's not Michael taking care of Fredo type of "taken care of," but 5 year deal with the third most money for the position in the league seems pretty good to me.
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The devil is in the details ... oh that's right, you don't believe in him, my bad. o:)
 
Mankins' agent needs to review BB's history with Terry Glenn. No one is more important than the system.
 
I'll trade you Jarvis Green and Zane Beadles for Mankins.
 
If Bob Kraft were to be honest, he'd say that Mankins lost him some time ago.
 
Two things.

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The real pressure point here comes in midseason -- Mankins needs to be on the roster for six games to accrue the season towards free agency.
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Barring the new CBA forcing guys to have 6 years in before earing UFA status, Mankins doesn't need to accrue anything. He sits out all year and is an UFA next season.

2) If the Pats are really expecting Mankins to only earn the $3mm tender this year, I'd be pissed too. WTF is that about? The only way that makes sense is if they do a Seymous style deferred bonus. That is essentially guaranteed whether you are on the roster or not.
 
A Dr. Evil/Mini-Me "you complete me" moment would be great right about now.
 
Either his agent is sure Mankins will never play another down in NE or he isn't a savvy negotiator. That extra little knife twist about the Pats wanting to do everything nasty that they can is a very strange thing for an agent to say publicly if he wants his client to resign with a team.
Either way, this looks like a very bitter and drawn out divorce.
 
If he don't sign soon. BB should do what he did with deon branch & Terry glenn trade him for a draft pick or player. imo turning down a contact to be the 3rd highest paid guard in the nfl. He wants to have a contact equal or better than Evans.
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king of kings said:
If he don't sign soon. BB should do what he did with deon branch & Terry glenn trade him for a draft pick or player. imo turning down a contact to be the 3rd highest paid guard in the nfl. He wants to have a contact equal or better than Evans.
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He aint coming back, IMO. There is no "soon" anymore.
 
What is it with these guys wanting huge contracts based on what they did years before? Even 2008 Mankins might have had a case, but he had a million false starts last season.

Brady wants a top two contract. Apparently Brady still thinks it's 2007 and he's sitting there with 30 touchdowns and 2 interceptions. And as we saw, he can't win the big one despite having the best offense ever around him.

Papelbon wants to be the highest paid closer, as he blows his 50th save of the season.

Someone should let these morons know that if you want a big contract, you should ask for it when you're at your best, not a few years later.

Darrelle Revis is smart. He had fat Rex calling him the best in the game, everyone started to believe it, and now Revis is going to get a nice fat contract. He didn't wait until 3 years later.
 
LeonPowe said:
What is it with these guys wanting huge contracts based on what they did years before? Even 2008 Mankins might have had a case, but he had a million false starts last season.

Brady wants a top two contract. Apparently Brady still thinks it's 2007 and he's sitting there with 30 touchdowns and 2 interceptions. And as we saw, he can't win the big one despite having the best offense ever around him.

Papelbon wants to be the highest paid closer, as he blows his 50th save of the season.

Someone should let these morons know that if you want a big contract, you should ask for it when you're at your best, not a few years later.
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Your schtick was amusing for awhile it is frigging BORING as hell now. *yawns*
 
Revis also protects himself in case last year was a fluke. Everyone's lasting image of him is blanketing all the top receivers in the game. Our lasting image of Brady is turning it over 4 times and pouting on the bench.
 
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